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Dairy Free Diet

User
Posted 06 Jun 2015 at 19:31
As soon as I was diagnosed I went on a daily free diet. Research in the US and info from many book agree that this will help stop feeding the cancer cells. Has anyone else tried this?
User
Posted 06 Jun 2015 at 22:06
My OH just has skimmed milk in his tea, that's one change he just can't make, but we now have soya yoghurt and cream, almond milk for cereal and dairy free ice cream.

At Guys hospital this week the specialist nurse mentioned going dairy- free and combining with a Mediterranean style diet as a good base when Steve asked if there was any specific diet advice, luckily that's pretty much what we'd been doing since diagnosis.

Maureen

"You're braver than you believe, stronger than you seem and smarter than you think." A A Milne
User
Posted 07 Jun 2015 at 00:07
Thanks. I have been totally dairy free for over 18 months. I have had a radical prostatectomy, 7 weeks radiotherapy and continue on hormones. Waiting for Jan 2016 when I should be coming off the hormones and see if the PSA changes.
User
Posted 07 Jun 2015 at 05:20

Russell can you give a bit more detail about your dx eg PSA prior and after treatments etc. Was RT part of a standard treatment plan or didn't they get it all with the RP.

Cheers

Bri

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User
Posted 07 Jun 2015 at 07:34
Original diagnosis was bad. Initial response from my urologist was I had a 30% chance of living 3 years and wasn't suitable for surgery or RT. He was 'let go' by hospital that week!

The oncologist was much more positive and had already scheduled surgery and explained I would be put on hormones immediately afterwards. She suggested rt after the surgeon couldn't get clear margins and the found cells in my lymph nodes.

Pre surgery PSA was 15. After was still 4.5. After 3 months hormones it was 0.01. It has been that for 17 months.

I am eating so much healthier and lost 2 stone since surgery. Partly dairy free but also cutting out carbs. Not part of my cancer diet but helped me get from obese to overweight. The hormone made me put on weight. I also walk about 10 miles a week to help retain the leg muscle tone, also lost from the hormones.

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User
Posted 07 Jun 2015 at 18:13

Thanks Russell, a bit of a bumpy road to start, but hopefully things are working out now and will continue to do so in the future

All the best

Bri

User
Posted 09 Jun 2015 at 19:32

Hello Russell.

I was diagnosed 2011, and went dairy free in October 2011. It is now easy... and why now I wonder why do we drink the milk of another animal, when all other mammals only give milk to their own infants to give them a "boost' of growth.... do we really want to promote new growth (cancer) as we are adults?... just my dairy-free thoughts!
I have also given up red meat too... it is a personal choice, but at diagnosis T3B, Gleeson 8 and PSA 41, I am now PSA 0.1after 4 years, so I am thinking I perhaps had good treatment, and also made good life-style decisions......
But, of course, it is unproven, and a personal choice.

I repeat... it is really a personal choice! Good Luck!

Peter

User
Posted 09 Jun 2015 at 23:37
Sounds good to me. I only eat meat that I am sure has not been in the dairy food chain or not fed on dairy waste. Very encouraged with you PSA. Are you off hormone treaemt?
User
Posted 23 Jun 2015 at 09:15

Hi Russell

I have also gone dairy (and meat) free since diagnosis this May.  The argument is that crop fields are sprayed to kill bugs and increase yields.  The cows then eat these crops and are also injected with growth hormones.  More for profit than quality?  We then eat or drink this produce which must contain, possibly microscopic, amounts of bad stuff for us.  We also wrap the produce in plastic and add preservatives, stabilisers, colouring, etc, etc.  I know this isn't very scientific but maybe going totally organic is better.  My Grandfather grew fruit and veg in his garden and kept chickens, this must have been healthier in those days.

Good luck with your diet and exercise

Steve

User
Posted 23 Jun 2015 at 09:38

Hi Russell,

I was diagnosed in 2005 and luckily found the work of Prof Jane Plant within a week or two.

All she wrote made good sense to me and I've been dairy (and red meat) free ever since.

Good Luck on your journey.

George

User
Posted 23 Jun 2015 at 13:44

Hi Russel

If I had been at the sharp end like George would I have gone down the same diet route? Most likely Yes.

If I had been at low risk: G6 and had surgery – would I have cut out any dairy and red meat? Most likely No.

As I see myself as somewhere in the middle I do have some, only some, dairy and non organic red meat – still here 10 years on. Did I choose right?

Whatever your diet enjoy

Ray

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User
Posted 27 Jun 2015 at 21:12

read all of this with interest, have cut out some dairy ie milk gone to soya, drinking green tea, but not cut out all meat, spoke to nurse about cutting out dairy and my prognosis, she said not to overindulge on any of my favourities but dont cut it all out if thats what I enjoy eating, its got to be live life with no regrets

nidge

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User
Posted 27 Jun 2015 at 22:00

Hi Russell
I've been on no dairy, no red meats, no processed meats etc since diagnosis in January this yr.
I'm following as much as possible a mediterranean diet with lots of fish, fruit and vedge and everything has to be organic. I take squeezed lemon with hot water every morning which helps the alkalinity of yr body.
My bible is The Rainbow Diet by Chris Woolams which I'd recommend everybody to read.
I eat lots of fruit sometimes as juices. My next step is daily enema's.

A very good friend who had terminal stomach cancer and was told there are no more treatment is now clear after 2 years following the Gerson treatment only. The Rainbow Diet is supposedly the next best thing without having to go through as much as the Gerson demands.

At the moment I'm hedging my bets with HT which has brought my psa down from 235 to 0.07.

User
Posted 09 Jul 2015 at 23:57

Hi, reading this thread with interest, wondering if you have had many physical changes in your bodies due to diet changes, ie bowel and urinary  function?

My hubby had Radical prostatectomy 2 years ago followed by 7 weeks of RT and almost 15mths of hormones. Thankfully PSA now less than 0.3 so onco has allowed him to stop hormones. He is doing really well but has put on weight, got some man boobs and still suffers from a lot of wind and uncomfortable stomach. His motions seem normal enough but the wind can be noisy and painful. He recently switched to dairy free as much as possible and is also trying to follow a weightwatchers diet, albeit informally. Initially the wind seemed to settle but now seems as bad as ever. Does anyone else have similar problem, is there anything else he can in his diet that would help? I tried to get him to try gluten free but he couldnt stick to it so we thought it would be bet to try one thing at a time.

 

Any advice would be great

thanks

User
Posted 10 Jul 2015 at 00:24
Hi, I embrace my man boobs and now exercise every day. I recommend a carbs free diet. I have lost 2.5 stone in the last 4 months. As regards wind, I suggest http://www.provenprobiotics.co.uk/products/all/acidophilus-and-bifidus-for-travellers/

I found the radiotherapy probably damage the natural stomach biotics. My wife is gluten free as she is coeliac and I am still dairy free. I am still on hormones for another 6 months.

Also trying new drugs for erectile dysfunction and having good results.

Good luck

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User
Posted 27 Jul 2016 at 16:56

Songbird9292, I can recommend Acidophilus tablets from any health store (I prefer the chewable/flavoured ones). These helped me a great deal with the increased wind :-)

Good luck.

User
Posted 27 Jul 2016 at 19:09

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Songbird9292, I can recommend Acidophilus tablets from any health store (I prefer the chewable/flavoured ones). These helped me a great deal with the increased wind :-)

Good luck.

Russell,do you mean the H&B chewable ones that are available in Strawberry or Blueberry?

Aren't they dairy based (note the title of this thread)? 

H&B do sell a non-Dairy product (at ludicrous prices)

 

Pierre


 
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