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User
Posted 08 December 2015 12:58:00(UTC)

For years i have been using a 'tens' machine to relieve my Cervical spondylosis and the other day i bought a new machine but on reading the instructions it stated not to use if you have cancer ( I have prostate cancer) but doing a bit of research on the internet there are lots of people with cancer using 'Tens' machines for pain relief so i'm a bit confused,looking for guidence on this,thanks in advance. Jack.

User
Posted 08 December 2015 14:13:59(UTC)

I used a Neurotrac Pelvitone to help increase my pelvic floor strength, and my physiotherapist at the time was less than enthusiastic. However, the surgeon said that as I no longer had a prostate and my PSA was less than 0.1 consistently, I did not have cancer so the TENS machine use was OK. I have just re-read the instruction manual (or at least a version of it on the Internet) and there is nothing in the contraindications section about the use of the machine for people with cancer. In fact, one of the prime purposes (with surface electrodes) is to help with the relief of pain from cancers.

The only thing I can think of that might be an issue is that, for muscle stimulation, perhaps rather greater voltages are used and particularly with the (ugh) rectal probe, it is operating in an area very close to the prostate (or where it was if removed).

What is the actual wording on the instructions for your machine, and what model is it?

Tony

TURP then LRP in 2009/2010. Lots of leakage but PSA < 0.1 AMS-800 Artificial Sphincter activated 2015.
User
Posted 08 December 2015 15:26:19(UTC)

Hi Jacko,
as you had brachytherapy I think it would be best to phone your nurse specialist or the oncologist's secretary to check - just in case

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard


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User
Posted 08 December 2015 16:44:12(UTC)

Some time ago I repaired one of these TENS boxes for a friend as part of my repair business. I had never heard of them at the time and did a bit of research. I suspect they may have some benefit as advertised but personally remain of the view that they are 'snake oil'. As to whether you should use them if you have cancer I have no idea, but the very thought of deliberately giving yourself electric shocks (I did VERY BRIEFLY try it) does not seem a good thing to do.

User
Posted 08 December 2015 23:19:19(UTC)

I am the most cynical person you could imagine but TENS is not snake oil. Women have been using them in labour for at least 25 years that I know of and many NHS hospitals have them. Also reported to be good for people with slipped discs etc.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard


User
Posted 09 December 2015 08:58:05(UTC)

I have a tens machine (my second one) and two pain guns (which work on the same principle and can be carried in a hand bag.
Do they work? or do I just think they work?

To me, it doesn't matter because if you are in that much pain you'll try anything.

In your shoes Jacko, I'd contact the consultant's secretary and ask her to check for me. You'd get it from the horses mouth so to speak

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 09 December 2015 09:29:54(UTC)
I remember researching this a while ago when I was looking for an alternative to PFE and came to the conclusion that it was thought by some that the electrical impulses may excite the cancer cells causing them to become more active, but I don't think it is a proven but more of a theory, but not wanting to test the theory I left well alone.

Roy
User
Posted 09 December 2015 23:51:50(UTC)

In a similar vein, there are also diverse opinions on whether massage is good/bad/indifferent for men with PCa and some masseurs will not do it if a man has this disease.

Barry
User
Posted 10 December 2015 12:24:39(UTC)

I have just found the following analysis:

Electrical stimulation for men with urinary incontinence

It is quite a weighty tome with lots of statistical information and terminology.  The main conclusions are on page 18.  So far, I have only skimmed through the text, I'll wait until my wife is watching "Masterchef the Professionals" tonight to read more thoroughly.

Background to the Cochrane Collaboration can be found here:

Cochrane Collaboration

Hope this begins to help.

 

Tony

TURP then LRP in 2009/2010. Lots of leakage but PSA < 0.1 AMS-800 Artificial Sphincter activated 2015.
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