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User
Posted 17 Aug 2017 at 10:46

I have been told today that Muse is temporarily out of supply. I have a prescription, does anyone know of an on-line pharmacy with stock?

 

User
Posted 17 Aug 2017 at 10:46

I have been told today that Muse is temporarily out of supply. I have a prescription, does anyone know of an on-line pharmacy with stock?

 

User
Posted 24 Aug 2017 at 15:57

I found it the only thing to work, and I wasnt going to use injections 1

 

Edited by member 24 Aug 2017 at 15:58  | Reason: Not specified

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User
Posted 17 Aug 2017 at 19:04

Have you tried an online search.

I came across at lest three that had it in stock for private prescription. I don't know how that will work out for you.

Hope somebody else can help

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User
Posted 17 Aug 2017 at 20:54

I used my prescription at a large Boots branch today . They had some in the fridge ! I do not know if they have an ongoing supply, the pharmacist could not tell me. I was just pleased to get a 6-pack today.

Edited by member 17 Aug 2017 at 20:56  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 18 Aug 2017 at 06:59

It looks as though there may be a shortage of the 500mcg but the other strengths seem available. I've not tried Muse; have you found it successful as I've heard mixed reports?

Thanks
David

User
Posted 24 Aug 2017 at 15:57

I found it the only thing to work, and I wasnt going to use injections 1

 

Edited by member 24 Aug 2017 at 15:58  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 04 Jan 2020 at 22:11

Update on Muse supply.
I contacted the supplier this week and was informed that they are no longer supplying the 250mcg

 

Edited by member 04 Jan 2020 at 22:12  | Reason: sp mistake

User
Posted 04 Jan 2020 at 22:16
John has been prescribed Vitaros instead but it isn't very successful :-(
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 05 Jan 2020 at 01:04

I was prescribed muse in July 2019. I couldn't find it in stock anywhere. A Boots branch said it was due back in September. Online pharmacies had it on their website but I don't think they actually had any in stock. Only one online pharmacy (oxford) indicated if they had the product in or out of stock. Going on there site they now appear to have some strengths and quantities available and some not. I assume they will not supply this free as an nhs prescription, but will charge just over £100 for a six pack. 

I have been prescribed vitaras cream. I have tried it twice to date with little success, but I'm on hormone therapy and until I come of that I don't think anything will do much good. 

 

Dave

User
Posted 05 Jan 2020 at 09:05

Vitaros is the least efficient way to deliver alprostadil. In needs to get in to the corpus cavernosum, but the glans is on a separate blood supply (via corpus spongiosum), which is erectile, but is not the main erectile part of the penis (it's job is to pump the urethra during ejaculation, rather than erecting the penis). This means the alprostadil has to diffuse through the glans and then across from the corpus spongiosum to the corpus cavernosum, and it all adds up to being less effective, although it does work for some men. Muse works the same way, but is more easily absorbed through the urethra than Vitaros is through the glans. I suspect Vitaros may be less effective in circumcised men too due to less absorption through the glans, but I've no idea if that's really the case.

Dave, if you didn't have ED before treatment and since your nerves are likely intact (based on your bio), it's probably lack of arousal due to the HT hitting libido. If so, you might try some other things. Did you try PDE5 inhibitors (Sildenafil/Viagra, Tadalafil/Cialis, etc) before trying a vasodilator (Muse/alprostadil)? PDE5 inhibitors will amplify what arousal you might have had, possibly enough for an erection. If not, you might try adding some other things with the PDE5 inhibitors to improve arousal. These would be things like sex toys - vibrating rings. Another thing to try would be using erotica/porn (soft porn if you haven't used porn before - hard porn can generate feelings of regret for what you've lost, which is counterproductive). Obviously, both you and your partner have to be happy to try these - if either of you are uncomfortable, it could damage your relationship, which you definitely don't want just at this time, so be very careful there.

User
Posted 05 Jan 2020 at 12:53

Thanks Andy,

The HT causing lack of libido is definitely the root of the problem. With manual manipulation I do get a semi, so I think nerves are still fine. Once I get testosterone back I'm sure things will get better, but I suspect not as good as before. 

the pde5 inhibitors gave me really bad indigestion lasting about 24 hours. That might not stop someone with a normal libido but it's enough to stop me.

Though I have never had the chance to use muse, I can clearly see that muse delivers the drug to where it is needed, and vitaris delivers it just to the glans and an erect glans is useless without an erect shaft.

I like the detail in your posts. In another thread you mention weighing pads before and after use, that made me laugh. I was a bit obsessed with measuring my catheter output when I had one. 

Dave

User
Posted 05 Jan 2020 at 13:54

If you only tried one or two of the PDE5 inhibitors, it's worth trying another (there are 4 of them). Unfortunately, none of them are only PDE5 inhibitors, they all inhibit some other PDEs too, different for each one, and different PDEs have different effects on other parts of the body. It's usually inhibiting those other PDEs that give side effects, and you might find by trying another, you get one which doesn't cause you side effects. Also, you might find a smaller dose is still enough for erections, but reduces the side effects.

My background is as a software engineer, come data scientist. My day job was looking after loads of computer storage servers around the world, and I logged every parameter I could get out of them. This enabled me to spot trends and predict in advance when one was going to fail.  I basically turned that analytical method around and pointed it at me, hence I measure everything I can think of, including leakage (which is fortunately gone now). Unless you know how much you leaked, you don't know if you are getting better or not, hence weighing pads.

My urological radiologist was fascinated by a graph I'd plotted of varying erection length during EBRT and HDR brachytherapy. They don't get that sort of data, so they can't tell patients what to expect. He carefully counted off how many weeks recovery took, so he has at least one datapoint from one patient for future reference. At the Chorleywood Men's Health Day last year where many top urologists (including the country's very top urologist) came to talk with men, one of them looked through my data for a while. He said, if I was his patient, he would be asking for a presentation at the end of treatment - they simply never get that sort of detail back from patients. I've offered that to one of my consultants so far, and it looks like I may do it in March.

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User
Posted 05 Jan 2020 at 14:53
If I plotted a graph of my erection length post-operative, it would be very short, as is the member in question.πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚.

I am not psychologically fixated on penis size, but it would be nice to sit on the loo and not piss all over the bathroom floor, without careful targeting. I was an RAF Marksman, so maybe that has stood me in good stead.

I did try Vitaros once, with a throbbing semi, too painful to endure.

Thank you Andy62 for all the selfless work you do.

Cheers, John.

User
Posted 05 Jan 2020 at 22:33

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
I suspect Vitaros may be less effective in circumcised men too due to less absorption through the glans, but I've no idea if that's really the case.

 

Interesting theory; not considered by the ED consultant or John's new ED nurse though. John is circumcised and I can confirm that all it does is make the end of his penis very, very pink. It may be no use for penetrative sex but I can find it in the dark 🀣 

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 05 Jan 2020 at 23:33

Thanks Andy, I have tried two PDE5 inhibitors. I will check what they were and then see what others I can try. I did try cutting the tablets in half but that resulted in a little less indigestion, and even less effective erection.

Many years ago I managed to get hold of a Viagra tablet, long before they were generally available, and took it for what would be called recreational purposes. I must admit I didn't notice indigestion as a side effect on that occasion, but it was years ago, and I have probably changed over the years. A really weird side effect was that it seemed to change my perception of colour to give everything a blue tinge, when I got back to my house I genuinely thought for a few seconds the light bulb was over voltaged as I could not understand why everything was blue.

Dave

User
Posted 06 Jan 2020 at 00:18
Seeing colours is a known side effect. We have found Levitra to be the most effective with fewer side effects - definitely worth trying.

Sometimes, men think the tablets don’t work because they don’t leave enough time; in our house, John would take a Viagra in the afternoon if we plan to have sex in the evening, or at bedtime for sex the next morning (not that that happens very often these days). Levitra works 3-4 hours after he takes it. Both need to be taken on an empty stomach.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 06 Jan 2020 at 10:26

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
  ifwe plan to have sex in the evening, or at bedtime for sex the next morning (not that that happens very often these days).

You need to get the whip out!! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

User
Posted 06 Jan 2020 at 12:14

Andy, you just caused me to chuckle :-)   "he would be asking for a presentation at the end of treatment"  set me wondering as tp what form a "full" presentation might take.

John

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Jan '20 PSA 0.3 July '20 0.1 Jan. 21 < 0.1 Dec 21 <0.01 June '22 <0.01 April '23  <0.01

User
Posted 06 Jan 2020 at 16:59

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
  ifwe plan to have sex in the evening, or at bedtime for sex the next morning (not that that happens very often these days).

You need to get the whip out!! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

 

🀭

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 06 Jan 2020 at 20:32

Thanks lyn, I'll try the levitra, when I get around to it. I concur with what you and John have found vitaris makes the tip pink and does very little else. 

I'm fairly sure I did take the PDE5 inhibitors on an empty stomach, I remember the ED nurse saying "six pints of lager and a curry, followed by sex was no longer on the table". 

Dave

 
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