I'm interested in conversations about and I want to talk about
Know exactly what you want?
Show search

Notification

Error

Permanent Seed Brachytherapy - My Journey

User
Posted 26 Mar 2018 at 17:41

Hello all,

Firstly, I'd like to thank Kennt for his excellent posting on his experience with Brachytherapy. It has helped me greatly over the last few days, and inspired me to write this.

After reading his post, I thought it might help others to also share my experiences as a slightly younger man.

I also want to thank my wife for being there at every step!

A Bit Of Background:

So about me, I'm 48, fairly fit and active, and was diagnosed back in December with T1 stage and a gleason score of 7.

Back then I was told that although there was no urgency, that because of my gleason score, it was likely that I'd need treatment at some point in the next couple of years. Like Kennt, I too also felt that opting for AS was just putting off the inevitable, and that as a pretty healthy fit guy, I would be better off having treatment now whilst I'm fit and strong and the cancer isn't than waiting for things to possibly reverse.

After speaking to surgeons and oncologists we decided to opt for brachytherapy. This was mainly because as I'm fairly active, it presented a far shorter recovery period and potentially less side effects than RP, with a very similar success rate.

I'll say straight away, that I'm not here to "sell" brachytherapy to anyone. Its each persons choice, and whats right for one isn't necessarily right for another. I just want to share my experience to help others.

The Journey So far:

We finally made the decision on brachytherapy after Christmas. We had a snowboarding holiday booked for early March and agreed with the consultant that we could book in the procedure for when we returned without any fear of things getting worse. We were also fortunate to have private health care through my wife's work, so decided we would have it done through that.

Its now exactly a week since I went in for the procedure....

D-Day:

The day of the procedure itself couldn't have gone any better. I was admitted 1st thing in the morning, and went down for surgery @ 9:30.

On waking, I really didn't know I'd had anything done (except for feeling a bit "groggy" from the anaesthetic, and uncomfortable from the catheter).

I returned to the room, and within a couple of hours had a very welcome light lunch. I had dinner in the evening and after several checks had the dreaded catheter removed about 10pm (hooray!). I then had a reasonable nights sleep, though had to get up a couple of times to pee. I didnt need any painkillers at all through my stay.

After more checks the next morning, I was released, and was home by mid day. 

Week 1:

Week 1 has been a mixed experience. The first thing to say is that I probably underestimated how it would affect me. Having read the literature, spoken to specialists etc, I'd really believed I'd be reasonably back to normal after a few days. One of the doctors even said to me they'd had patients return to the golf course after a few days! 

However, that hasn't really been my experience. Day 2, when I returned home wasn't too bad. I felt pretty tired, and delicate as the anaesthetic slowly wore off, but I took it very easy, and felt ok. 

Going for a pee was fairly painful, though that improved over time. However, I didn't have a bowel movement at all.

But the next day was alot worse. I felt pretty rough. Really tired, and sore and uncomfortable. This was the first day I needed pain killers. Peeing was still painful and I still hadn't had a bowel movement, even though I was eating regularly. 

From then on, physically things have slowly got better. I finally had a bowel movement on day 4, by which point I was getting pretty uncomfortable, and peeing has slowly improved, though it is still uncomfortable and can be painful sometimes. I've also found I have some regular "leakage". Not bad, but have had to buy some pads to put in my underwear (which is nice!). I'm guessing this might be down to the alpha blockers, though not sure?

I am finding I need to get up anything from once to four or five times at night to pee. There doesn't seem to be much of a pattern as to why.   

I have also been out for a few short walks though I find I cant go too far as it starts to feel pretty uncomfortable. My wife also took me out in the car at the weekend, and again, I found I cant sit in the car for long as it gets really uncomfortable very quickly. Ihaent tried to drive yet, but not sure I want to yet after the experience of being a passenger.

I've also noticed a pattern, where I seem to start the day feeling not too bad, then get slowly worse through the day. Most days so far, I get very tired around mid afternoon, and struggle to concentrate. Not sure if this is down to disturbed sleep, the seeds, or both??

On a positive note, I tried drinking a cup of coffee (which I love and really want looking forward to giving up!), and it doesn't seem to have made any real difference. I've decided that I'll restrict myself to one or two cups per week to see how it goes.

Also, though, other than when I was originally diagnosed, I am now very aware of having cancer. Its probably just the side effects of surgery, but I really feel like I've gone from feeling pretty much totally ok, to feeling like an old man in the space of a few days!

It has also really made me start thinking about life priorities etc. If I'm honest, I'm really struggling with motivating myself to return to work. At this stage I'm not sure where that will lead, but I am more determined to prioritise my and my families happiness that I was in he past. its a cliche, but it's really made me  realise that you only get one shot....

I'll also add though, that although it hasn't been quite as simple a recovery as I'd expected, I'm also still pleased with the treatment choice I made. Time will tell what the long term side effects are. But so far, I still feel that I've made the right decision. 

I'll post more updates over time. 

Hope this helps????

 

   

 

User
Posted 26 Mar 2018 at 17:41

Hello all,

Firstly, I'd like to thank Kennt for his excellent posting on his experience with Brachytherapy. It has helped me greatly over the last few days, and inspired me to write this.

After reading his post, I thought it might help others to also share my experiences as a slightly younger man.

I also want to thank my wife for being there at every step!

A Bit Of Background:

So about me, I'm 48, fairly fit and active, and was diagnosed back in December with T1 stage and a gleason score of 7.

Back then I was told that although there was no urgency, that because of my gleason score, it was likely that I'd need treatment at some point in the next couple of years. Like Kennt, I too also felt that opting for AS was just putting off the inevitable, and that as a pretty healthy fit guy, I would be better off having treatment now whilst I'm fit and strong and the cancer isn't than waiting for things to possibly reverse.

After speaking to surgeons and oncologists we decided to opt for brachytherapy. This was mainly because as I'm fairly active, it presented a far shorter recovery period and potentially less side effects than RP, with a very similar success rate.

I'll say straight away, that I'm not here to "sell" brachytherapy to anyone. Its each persons choice, and whats right for one isn't necessarily right for another. I just want to share my experience to help others.

The Journey So far:

We finally made the decision on brachytherapy after Christmas. We had a snowboarding holiday booked for early March and agreed with the consultant that we could book in the procedure for when we returned without any fear of things getting worse. We were also fortunate to have private health care through my wife's work, so decided we would have it done through that.

Its now exactly a week since I went in for the procedure....

D-Day:

The day of the procedure itself couldn't have gone any better. I was admitted 1st thing in the morning, and went down for surgery @ 9:30.

On waking, I really didn't know I'd had anything done (except for feeling a bit "groggy" from the anaesthetic, and uncomfortable from the catheter).

I returned to the room, and within a couple of hours had a very welcome light lunch. I had dinner in the evening and after several checks had the dreaded catheter removed about 10pm (hooray!). I then had a reasonable nights sleep, though had to get up a couple of times to pee. I didnt need any painkillers at all through my stay.

After more checks the next morning, I was released, and was home by mid day. 

Week 1:

Week 1 has been a mixed experience. The first thing to say is that I probably underestimated how it would affect me. Having read the literature, spoken to specialists etc, I'd really believed I'd be reasonably back to normal after a few days. One of the doctors even said to me they'd had patients return to the golf course after a few days! 

However, that hasn't really been my experience. Day 2, when I returned home wasn't too bad. I felt pretty tired, and delicate as the anaesthetic slowly wore off, but I took it very easy, and felt ok. 

Going for a pee was fairly painful, though that improved over time. However, I didn't have a bowel movement at all.

But the next day was alot worse. I felt pretty rough. Really tired, and sore and uncomfortable. This was the first day I needed pain killers. Peeing was still painful and I still hadn't had a bowel movement, even though I was eating regularly. 

From then on, physically things have slowly got better. I finally had a bowel movement on day 4, by which point I was getting pretty uncomfortable, and peeing has slowly improved, though it is still uncomfortable and can be painful sometimes. I've also found I have some regular "leakage". Not bad, but have had to buy some pads to put in my underwear (which is nice!). I'm guessing this might be down to the alpha blockers, though not sure?

I am finding I need to get up anything from once to four or five times at night to pee. There doesn't seem to be much of a pattern as to why.   

I have also been out for a few short walks though I find I cant go too far as it starts to feel pretty uncomfortable. My wife also took me out in the car at the weekend, and again, I found I cant sit in the car for long as it gets really uncomfortable very quickly. Ihaent tried to drive yet, but not sure I want to yet after the experience of being a passenger.

I've also noticed a pattern, where I seem to start the day feeling not too bad, then get slowly worse through the day. Most days so far, I get very tired around mid afternoon, and struggle to concentrate. Not sure if this is down to disturbed sleep, the seeds, or both??

On a positive note, I tried drinking a cup of coffee (which I love and really want looking forward to giving up!), and it doesn't seem to have made any real difference. I've decided that I'll restrict myself to one or two cups per week to see how it goes.

Also, though, other than when I was originally diagnosed, I am now very aware of having cancer. Its probably just the side effects of surgery, but I really feel like I've gone from feeling pretty much totally ok, to feeling like an old man in the space of a few days!

It has also really made me start thinking about life priorities etc. If I'm honest, I'm really struggling with motivating myself to return to work. At this stage I'm not sure where that will lead, but I am more determined to prioritise my and my families happiness that I was in he past. its a cliche, but it's really made me  realise that you only get one shot....

I'll also add though, that although it hasn't been quite as simple a recovery as I'd expected, I'm also still pleased with the treatment choice I made. Time will tell what the long term side effects are. But so far, I still feel that I've made the right decision. 

I'll post more updates over time. 

Hope this helps????

 

   

 

User
Posted 27 Mar 2018 at 13:43

Hello Rodhog,
Another member of the Brachytherapy Seed club.

My John had his implants in June 2014 #9around the same time as Kennt) and was a fair bit older than you.

If you click on my avatar you will see John's journey so far.

We are coming up to our yearly PSA and hospital follow up, where, we will find out if all is well and John can be signed off into the "care" of our GP.

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
Show Most Thanked Posts
User
Posted 26 Mar 2018 at 18:43

Great report although much of what you are experiencing is a side effect of the general anaesthetic rather than the brachy seeds - some people tolerate GA very well while others are knocked out for weeks. You are also describing the emotions that many people feel after a cancer diagnosis and again, it varies considerably ... some are distressed and frightened to begin with and then get their heads round it as a new normal emerges while others are fine to start with, have the treatment and then afterwards (perhaps because they have time to reflect) feel devastated or depressed.

No reason to rush back to work until you feel ready.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 27 Mar 2018 at 12:01

Hi and welcome to the Brachy club, I had much the same procedure as you 18 months ago but apart from tenderness and tiredness it's been a good run so far.

I still feel that i lack energy at home and get a bit low at times and tend to over think the future results of my PSA and if any of the PC escaped.

We did manage to get away to Europe for two months in our motorhome last year and i find the driving and traveling takes your mind off of it.

PSA was down to 0.44 in January with another test due in July so fingers crossed.

Good luck.

John.

User
Posted 27 Mar 2018 at 13:43

Hello Rodhog,
Another member of the Brachytherapy Seed club.

My John had his implants in June 2014 #9around the same time as Kennt) and was a fair bit older than you.

If you click on my avatar you will see John's journey so far.

We are coming up to our yearly PSA and hospital follow up, where, we will find out if all is well and John can be signed off into the "care" of our GP.

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 10 Apr 2018 at 19:23

So a quick update on my progress.

I'm now D Day plus 3 weeks, and things are progressing well. I'm pretty much back to a reasonably normal life.

Main things I've noticed are that I am peeing more (which was expected) and get a general "ache" downstairs, which is sometimes worse than others, and seems to get worse through the day.

I started back to work last week, and have found commuting tricky, mainly as I get uncomfortable after about an hour travelling.
But so far its manageable, and I'm working from home where possible.

I still get days when I get tired/lack motivation, but again, they seem to be getting less. Last week, I was also getting bad headaches, but again these seem to have improved this week. Form reading I suspect this could be a side effect of the Tamsulosin tablets.

I have my first follow up next week, so am keen to see how it goes.

So far the side effects seem manageable, and I'm also starting to want to do some form of fitness again soon, though not sure what.

I'll post again soon


 
Forum Jump  
©2024 Prostate Cancer UK