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Posted 05 June 2014 14:47:34(UTC)

Just received the June edition of ‘Progress’ Prostate UK’s News Letter; and they are promoting Barbeques.

For the past five years I have not eaten anything Smoked, Barbequed or Burnt, not even a bit of burnt toast, under the ‘misguided’ belief that these foods should be avoided.

Does anyone have any views comments on this.

Regards Murf.

Favorite Quote: I've developed a new philosophy... I only dread one day at a time.
User
Posted 24 January 2017 11:12:26(UTC)

Hi Guys,

I watched the news item on telly last night, they had an 'expert' explaining that 4% of cancers were linked to excessive alcohol consumption, 5% were linked to obesity, and 19% linked to smoking.

So at first sight that means that 72% of cancers aren't linked to anything?

However I then started to wonder about the use of the words 'linked to', these guys choose their words with care and there is a world of difference between 'linked to' and 'caused by'.

My guess is that about 4% of the population are officially alcoholic, 5% obese and 19% smoke, and guess what, they get cancer like the rest of us!

All of this of course ignores one of the big causes of cancer, which is growing old, if only someone would discover the elixir of youth and we could all be 21 again, wouldn't life be wonderful?  

:)

Dave

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User
Posted 05 June 2014 17:24:02(UTC)

Hi Murf I too was under the impression you should not eat meat that has been burned so will look forward to any replies. I have just watched your video on your PCa journey thought it was very good. I have had my 1st follow up yesterday no cancer in nodes and gleason score same as biopsy 3+4 but dont no if cancer has spread as they could not tell as no clear margin on right side, blood test taken now wait for result hope it comes out like yourself undetectable all the best for the future

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User
Posted 05 June 2014 17:50:09(UTC)

Hi Murf,

Trust you are still enjoying the Triumph.

 

Regarding BBQs, here's something to start your research. Probably better to make your own mind up rather than start the diet arguments

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrosamine


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16357191


http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cooked-meats

"The way you cook meat may increase cancer risk. Certain chemicals are made when red and processed meats are cooked at high temperatures, such as on a barbeque. These chemicals can damage our cells, making them more likely to become cancerous."

from

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-help/about-cancer/causes-symptoms/causes/diet-causing-cancer


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17264317

http://www.cncahealth.com/explore/learn/cancer-awareness/cut-your-cancer-risk-avoid-these-top-five-cancer-causing-foods

 

Just depends who & what you believe.

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User
Posted 05 June 2014 17:24:02(UTC)

Hi Murf I too was under the impression you should not eat meat that has been burned so will look forward to any replies. I have just watched your video on your PCa journey thought it was very good. I have had my 1st follow up yesterday no cancer in nodes and gleason score same as biopsy 3+4 but dont no if cancer has spread as they could not tell as no clear margin on right side, blood test taken now wait for result hope it comes out like yourself undetectable all the best for the future

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User
Posted 05 June 2014 17:50:06(UTC)
I would sooner eat overcooked meat from a barbecue than undercooked and risk food poisoning.
User
Posted 05 June 2014 17:50:09(UTC)

Hi Murf,

Trust you are still enjoying the Triumph.

 

Regarding BBQs, here's something to start your research. Probably better to make your own mind up rather than start the diet arguments

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrosamine


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16357191


http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cooked-meats

"The way you cook meat may increase cancer risk. Certain chemicals are made when red and processed meats are cooked at high temperatures, such as on a barbeque. These chemicals can damage our cells, making them more likely to become cancerous."

from

http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-help/about-cancer/causes-symptoms/causes/diet-causing-cancer


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17264317

http://www.cncahealth.com/explore/learn/cancer-awareness/cut-your-cancer-risk-avoid-these-top-five-cancer-causing-foods

 

Just depends who & what you believe.

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User
Posted 05 June 2014 18:06:04(UTC)

No sweat...I like my steak medium rare

User
Posted 05 June 2014 18:58:55(UTC)
I don't eat openly barbecued food because of the known links with a number of cancers including brain tumours. No recognised link between burnt food and the hormone cancers as far as I know. I can be persuaded to try a corn on the cob if it has been barbied in foil but honestly (don't tell John) I cook everything else in the oven and then pop onto the BBQ for the last couple of minutes!

John on the other hand would eat it all if left to his own devices, and the more crispy the better :-(
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard


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User
Posted 06 June 2014 16:13:10(UTC)

I had never heard of barbequed food being dangerous to one's health so I've been looking for some further information about it. I came up with this and I'm extremely happy as we're having a barbeque this evening in the garden...

 

"There are a couple of strategies to reduce the risks. Drink dark beer. Japanese researchers, in an article published in the January 1999 issue of the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry (pretty standard reading for bbq lovers), showed that the 24 beers they tested showed “potent inhibitory effect” against mutagens found in several types of HAAS. Dark beer worked best, so hoist a rich, malty brew more often."

 

Beer...a panacea for all evils it seems

User
Posted 23 January 2017 21:15:06(UTC)
Posted this two years ago; now it's news!
Murf
Favorite Quote: I've developed a new philosophy... I only dread one day at a time.
User
Posted 23 January 2017 21:42:10(UTC)
I heartily enjoy as many BBQs as each beautiful summer will allow. They are one of the great joys of life and with so much misery in the world, a little caramelisation is not going to alter my habits.

Just cook food properly and turn it regularly so as not to char the edges.

Enjoy!

Bazza
I am Spartacus - with the strength of iron, a will of steel and the fight to give this disease a real run for its money.
User
Posted 23 January 2017 21:49:45(UTC)

Cold , burnt toast and plenty of bbq's. Maybe I deserved all this ......




If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade
User
Posted 23 January 2017 22:32:01(UTC)

See Murf, members here are way ahead of our time!!!

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard


User
Posted 24 January 2017 11:12:26(UTC)

Hi Guys,

I watched the news item on telly last night, they had an 'expert' explaining that 4% of cancers were linked to excessive alcohol consumption, 5% were linked to obesity, and 19% linked to smoking.

So at first sight that means that 72% of cancers aren't linked to anything?

However I then started to wonder about the use of the words 'linked to', these guys choose their words with care and there is a world of difference between 'linked to' and 'caused by'.

My guess is that about 4% of the population are officially alcoholic, 5% obese and 19% smoke, and guess what, they get cancer like the rest of us!

All of this of course ignores one of the big causes of cancer, which is growing old, if only someone would discover the elixir of youth and we could all be 21 again, wouldn't life be wonderful?  

:)

Dave

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