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What a whirlwind.....

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Posted 16 May 2021 at 11:14
My PSA dropped from 990 to 14 after just 3 months of HT. Hoping it goes to zero. I have extensive spine spread and needed palliative RT before I took the HT plunge. I’m just a year younger than you. I hope HT gets control and maybe you could have your hip zapped ?
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Posted 16 May 2021 at 11:54

Hi nobby,

The hormone injection is a pellet that dissolves over a three month period. The drug it releases blocks some receptors (I think in the pituitary gland) as long as you have even a small amount of the drug in your body 100% of these receptors are blocked. So as long as the next injection is before the pellet has fully dissolved 100% will be blocked, and even when you have the next injection and the drug may be double the concentration in your blood, it is still 100% that are blocked. So in short your PSA tests will be accurate irrespective of how close they were to a hormone injection.

I think a testosterone test may be a good idea. We need to establish whether the injections are not bringing your testosterone to castrate levels, or that they are and the cancer is castrate resistant. I have never heard of the injections not bringing the testosterone down, but also I have never heard of the cancer being castrate resistant within a matter of months rather than a couple of years.

If your GP won't do the testosterone test you can order one online.

The Will is very sensible. I really hope no one will be reading it for a few years. With advanced prostate cancer one usually goes through a progression of more agressive treatments starting with HT, and then various other things such as chemo. I would have hoped you would be around for at least five years if not fifteen.

I hope they find some treatment to hold the cancer back. 

Dave

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Posted 16 Jun 2021 at 12:39

Well I was in for a treat today as I had a face to face meeting with the Addenbrookes Oncology team !!!!!

The bone scan was fine and no new areas so still just in the Pubic bone in one small section.   The PSA is now down to 6 but still a little high.

The bone pains have gone and I feel amazing..... that is the thing.... I have cancer yet I feel great...... not complaining....

So we will keep the Tasmsulosin going and the three month Hormone injection but now getting the Enzalutamide as well...... I'll rattle soon....  Also going for a Bone Density scan and another CT scan.......

Never taken meds before so can anyone recommend a good app to remind me to take them ? 

Anyone else on ENZALUTAMIDE and had any side effects ?    I have read all the blurb and it sounds scary 1 in 10 had X and 1 in 10 had Y and 1 in 100 got Z....... that means 9/10 didn't or 99/100 didn't......   

Anyway, time for some lunch - grilled trout - and to do some more work.   

Be safe and keep well.

Nick 

User
Posted 16 Jun 2021 at 12:59

I'm glad things are stable for you. 

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Never taken meds before so can anyone recommend a good app to remind me to take them? 

I'm not great at taking medicine. Setting an alarm on the phone helps. Problem is if I have to postpone it, I then forget completely.

 

Dave

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Posted 16 Jun 2021 at 17:35

Hi Nick,

Eight months on Enza now and 3 monthly decapeptyl jabs for nearly a year.  The Enza has made my hot flushes worse especially at nights and I get tired but it could be a combination of both that has increased the tiredness.  Find I am out of breathe more often and my resting heart rate has gone up from 59 to 68 over the course of the year.

Cheers

Jay

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Posted 12 Jul 2021 at 14:04

Well two weeks on the Enzalutamide(?) and I feel fine - hot flushes are about the same..... and have found a great app for the iPhone called Medisafe which not only recognises the meds but allows me to set the times to take them and reminds me.... 

It has to be said two after starting Enza I was diagnosed with a Kidney stone and Kidney infection and have been in and out of hospital with the a rather nice 7mm stone.....   Had it zapped this morning so hopefully it will be gone in a few days and I can focus on the up and coming Radiology.

Hope all are well and keeping safe.

User
Posted 09 Oct 2021 at 20:18
Well firstly sorry for not keeping things updated but it has been a bit of a whirlwind.

20 Radio Therapy sessions - 5 times a week and they where not that bad. I was not a candidate before but as everything was kind of in the same place they put me forward and only in the last week did I start to feel any real side effects. Three days after Radio Therapy ended I was back in but this time to have the kidney stone removed. Day surgery to remove a 43mg stone which in itself was ok but having a stent in place for a week hit me hard. I felt weak, was up five times a night and just drained. Two week on and I am getting there - hot flushes are still regular 2am, 11am 6pm and 9pm but it may be linked to when I take the Enzalutamide.

Next Phone Consult is this coming Wednesday and I went for a Drive Through blood test on Friday and had the results already and the PSA has dropped again to 1.17 from 2.34. No side effects from the Enzalutamide bar the hot flushes and all the bone pain has gone. I feel great... yes some joints ache but this could be from the drugs...... DEXA next week will tell us more the state of the bones but if they are as in good condition as I feel then no worries.........

The app Medisafe keeps me taking the meds on time and tracks how many I have and is a great app.

Keep safe guys and ill try and post more often.......

User
Posted 10 Oct 2021 at 00:22

Hi Nobby,

Good to hear from you. Actually a long break between posts is good, it means you are getting on with your life and finding better things to do than post here. Mind you a break of a year or more is worrying then we assume you dropped down dead.

Hot flushes at regular times is unusual, when I had them they were unpredictable, but hot weather was never good.

Dave

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Posted 10 Oct 2021 at 14:24

Cheers Dave,

 

The consultant believed the regularity of the hot flushes was related to the regularity of the meds I take and when I eat.   With the animals we look after and work we tend to eat at the same time to could be why the flushes are so regular.... or just could be because I'm me.....

:-)

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Posted 30 Dec 2021 at 14:30

A belated Merry Christmas to one and all and an early Happy New Year.....  yes Happy..... we may not feel it but we are still here and that is a major thing.

Since my last post I have had a DEX scan for bone density and another blood test and another virtual consultation.

DEXA was normal -... me normal...... well that is a good thing.   

PSA Test - down by 50% again so from 1.78 to .712 ... ok it is more than 50% but who is quibbling about small numbers.  So the Enzalutamide(?) seems to be working and bar to hot flushes it all seems to be good.

Consultation conclusion..... don't want to talk to me for another three months..... well that is nice and I thought we were so close!   They also do not want to repeat the DEXA for another three years....

Forgive the somewhat flippant tone I have at times but that is my coping mechanism.   Like Hawkeye in MASH - yes I am that old - I tend to to use humour to deflect..... work well.   The good news is they think I may be here in another three years which given in Feb 21 I was given 18 months is good news.  

It is not all good news and sun flowers.   Yesterday when shooting I had a mega HOT FLUSH  but could not take my jacket off and felt like I was overheating..... lost concentration due to being so hot and had to stand down from the drive to try and cool down.   Lesson learnt..... always dress so you are able to cool down yet not get too cold.....   HOT FLUSHES at NIGHT...... sleep with the bedroom windows open with your feet not covered...... I still get hot flushes but not as bad and seldom have to get up.   DRINK..... water..... I drink 3ltr a day and when I don't I feel it feeling sluggish and heavy..... I also drink my two coffee's or two tea's but make sure these are Artisan brews so special and I make a real deal out of them so they are special.  WEIGHT..... with the reduction of testosterone I seem to put weight on very easily and although I walk 6-8 miles every day it does not seem enough so diet and exercise are key....... SLEEP..... I am still working full time and although from home I still find it hard by the end of the week and most evenings find myself dropping off on the sofa in front of the TV.  I am trying not to drop off in front of the Sofa but going to bed and making sure the sleep I get is good quality.......  but not too much.... I force myself to do things and keep busy both physically and mentally......

LASTLY...... What will be will be.... try not to think about it but when the emotions surface as they will let them..... have a bloody good cry and get it out of the system.   We are only human and bottling up stuff does not help.

Anyway.... enough prattling on from me.....

 

HAPPY NEW YEAR.......  and be safe :-) 

 

User
Posted 30 Dec 2021 at 15:45
Aw Nobby, what a great post - happy Christmas and a very healthy & lively 2022 to you!
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 30 Dec 2021 at 22:10

Good news Nobby, happy new year.

Dave

User
Posted 31 Dec 2021 at 16:46

Great post Nobby.

All the best to you and yours for 2022.

Ido4

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Posted 24 Feb 2022 at 18:03

It has been a year since I was diagnosed with Stage 4 Advances Prostate Cancer with a G score of 9/10 - the only test you want to score low in and I get a 9/10 !!!!!!

Well the year has flown by and I must admit at times I have been sh*t scared and others totally at peace with it all. Telling the family was the worst bit and my girls (24,21 years old) still have the odd wobble even now.  Grace has Williams Syndrome so her comprehension is not so great and there are times when she does not want too stay the weekend if her sister isn't in case something happens and Sharon my wife is not present.  But we talk and cry and hug and I think we are getting there.   The wife has been great, the initial side effects of the hormone treatment hit us hard and took a lot of getting used to.  But we soldier on and we keep ourselves busy and the evenings are now a fun game of who falls asleep in front of the TV first - always used to be the wife but now it is a tight race.

Keeping busy is the key and keeping positive... I take the dogs walking 3+ miles every morning and just getting back into running - when the wind stops.   I still work, have all my hobbies like shooting, fly fishing but had to call an end to the being shot out of a cannon as the Oncologist was not happy with that :-).   

I myself feel fine, the odd joint pain, teeth are a little sensitive and I get tired a lot but the PSA has been going down and down although yesterdays PSA was up .07 but I guess that is not a real issues - I hope.

I guess my message to all out there who may be facing a similar diagnosis is DON'T GIVE UP......  SOLDIER ON and yes things will change a little but there is always hope and much depends on YOU.   Keep positive, keep living life to the full.  Living life is not about the end state but how we get there and what we do on the way.....  We ALL will end up at the end state eventually but it is how we get there...... 

Be strong, have fun and smile and enjoy life..... we only have one :-)

User
Posted 24 Feb 2022 at 18:06
Great post, Nobby - stay well!
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 24 Feb 2022 at 18:20

What a wonderful attitude. Keep well

User
Posted 24 Feb 2022 at 18:32

Keep moving forward us G9ers must keep battling great post nobby 👍

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Posted 24 Feb 2022 at 21:01
Lovely post ! My mantra also. Stay well and best wishes
User
Posted 24 Feb 2022 at 21:03

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
had to call an end to the being shot out of a cannon as the Oncologist was not happy with that :-)

Bitterly disappointing loss I imagine. Great post NOBBY, thanks.

Jules

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Posted 24 Feb 2022 at 23:44

Good to see some of the same people posting updates which gives me faith and hope.

Keep safe guys and gals and keep that still upper lip up, even if it is above a loose flabby chin :-)

We should all have a mass get together - Summer gathering :-) 

 
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