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Recurrence 6 years after Robotic Surgery

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Posted 09 May 2025 at 17:01

Decent result.  MRI and bone scan at 0.2 is interesting.  No mention of psma?  I'm getting a sense of no news is good news having gone to 6 monthly blood tests without being told it was changing from 4 months.

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Posted 09 May 2025 at 19:17

Hi Francji1,

Jumping horses and straddling sheep. You're certainly an animal lover. 🙂

Joking apart, mate, although the PSA rise is only tiny you must be slightly disappointed. I hope this is just a small blip. As you said to be only 0.15 after all those years, is a great result. If I'm ever in a similar position, I'd still hold out until I was at least 0.2.  

Good luck 👍 

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Posted 09 May 2025 at 20:47

Franci , a slow rise has got to be better than a fast one. I think you already know you can't take things for granted. A guy I knew thought he was in the clear more than 12 years after surgery and he wasn't being monitored. The next test he had lead to scans and found it had spread. 

During my vaccine trial I had numerous bone and CT scans that found nothing, a few months later a PSMA scan found a hot spot, that was at 1.4 and you are a long way off from that.

Thanks Chris 

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Posted 01 Sep 2025 at 11:23
Latest result 0.16 so ticked up again. Now 10 years post op.

Next appointment 3 months is with the consultant rather than the nurse.

Interesting I have graphed my PSA for the last 10 years and it shows a continuous gradient, rather than an exponential growth anyone know if that is significant?

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Posted 01 Sep 2025 at 13:25

Perhaps it's behaving like a 3+3 which some specialists say is hardly cancer at all.  Although it sounds a too easy thing for someone to say in my opinion.

My psa rise is similar and mine was 4+4 although I like to think the strays are 3+3 as I was 4+3 initially.

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Posted 02 Sep 2025 at 23:30

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Interesting I have graphed my PSA for the last 10 years and it shows a continuous gradient, rather than an exponential growth anyone know if that is significant?

I'm sorry that you got another miniscule rise, mate.

As a matter of interest, if you continued the gradient what whould your PSA be in ten years?

Are you going to defer any possible further treatment unless you reach 0.2?

I think, if I were in your position, and the rise continued at the same small and slow rate, I would wait until 0.4 or even higher before considering further treatment.

I started a conversation on a Dr Scholz presentation, where although he stated he was a little more risky, he advocated 0.4 and even higher as a better point to start further scans etc. If I can find the conversation I put a link in.

Got it:

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t31858-When-to-start-salvage-treatment-after-BCR

 

Edited by member 02 Sep 2025 at 23:39  | Reason: Add link

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Posted 09 Dec 2025 at 23:11
Well wasn't expecting that, for the first time in years my PSA has gone down and is now 0.15.

I know it is all "noise threshold" but it certainly put a smile on my face. Wife wasn't so happy she started crying!

It was an in person meeting with the consultant and because I am a Welsh patient in an English hospital I had no idea what the result was until the consultant told us. Been doing this so long now it was just like the old days, pre "apps".

Consultant also changed her approach from 6 months ago and said any further restaging would be after 2 consecutive readings above 0.2 and it would be PSMA PET not CT / MRI. Relevance of this is the now universal acceptance of PSMA at 0.2 which has changed in 6 months (at least at Shrewsbury).

Wouldn't consider testing at more than 3 months interval though which brought me back to earth.

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Posted 10 Dec 2025 at 08:09

Hi, mate.

A truly fantastic result! Long may it continue. It must feel like the best Xmas present you could have ever had.

I've been following your story for the past couple of years. You're probably aware that I dread BCR and I'd have really struggled with the uncertainty that you've had to endure.

Im still on the wagon, but will have a couple of zero Guinness to celebrate your good news.

Happy Xmas, pal. 🎅

User
Posted 10 Dec 2025 at 08:39

Hi Pal

Really good to hear and I love hearing about tears of joy😊 

Wishing you all the best for the coming season 🙏 

Regards Phil 

User
Posted 10 Dec 2025 at 10:11

Francij1, a small movement,and we know from posts on here a movement of 0.01 doesn't really mean alot. Good that you are being closely watched. 

Thanks Chris 

User
Posted 10 Dec 2025 at 10:14

That's good . It kicks the can further up the road. 

Mine went from 0.15 to 0.14 last time.  Peter

User
Posted 10 Dec 2025 at 19:30
Good news frankij1. With the upward trend as it is anything slowing has to be good.

Just out of interest any life style changes?

Cheers Bill

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Posted 10 Dec 2025 at 20:05

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Good news frankij1. With the upward trend as it is anything slowing has to be good.

Just out of interest any life style changes?

Cheers Bill

We try to eat keto which has definitely helped with my borderline type 2 diabetes. We also do short periods of carnivore but it is remarkably difficult to stick to...

 

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Posted 10 Dec 2025 at 21:22

0.2 was my threshold to trigger a PSMA PET scan. Unfortunately nothing showed up even though they know its lurking there somewhere!! The consultant was surprised it didn't show at 0.2 as she said the scans are so good now, so they must be improving all the time. Interestingly when I went for the scan the radiographer told me there two different types of substance they inject and one is better than the other. Apparently,  had the better one. Hopefully you will have better luck when you have your scan, fingers crossed for you.

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Posted 10 Dec 2025 at 22:02
I am still hoping it's peaked 🙂
 
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