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Hormones re prostate and breast cancer

User
Posted 23 Nov 2023 at 19:41

My main concern is that  my husband Geoff couldn't cope with the ADT injections which  he was presribed and that I have since put in the garage 

I thought this ADT treatment was female hormones but after examining it the other day I see  it is rather a treatment to block testosterone at source 

To me this is dangerous meddling with the endocrine system 

So as I said before I will give him plant estrogens - phytoestrogens the best being Peruvian  Aguaje which is becoming very popular and hard to get hold of but luckily my nephew married a Peruvian so I am able to source genuine Peruvian aguaje  I take it bc it stop arthritis - I am female my arthritis is caused by lack of estrogen which I get from aguaje but I also add in DHEA and this is the secret - adding in your opposite sex hormone 

I was reading a post from a guy on Healthunlocked who gets  treated with estrogen patches from a hospital in Germany to control his prostate cancer this bypasses the liver  which is good but phytoestrogens are even better imo bc they latch on to estrogen receptors- which men have - so yes surely its better to fight / counter / moderate  testosterone with phytoestrogens  and the same with breast cancer - try to prevent it with androgens 

https://bmccancer.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12885-019-6457-8

 

Edited by member 11 Jan 2024 at 22:18  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 23 Nov 2023 at 20:07

Is Geoff fully aware of what you are doing?

Dave

User
Posted 23 Nov 2023 at 22:20
I suspect that Lizzo is a troll
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 23 Nov 2023 at 23:08

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
I suspect that Lizzo is a troll

 

If not, I hope her husband is aware of the risks of self medicating and ignoring decades of research. 

User
Posted 24 Nov 2023 at 20:48
Thanks Andy for the clarification. There was a reason I was careful to say "at the level of the cancer", but while I was well aware of the importance of the hypothalamic-pituitary axis I have to admit my knowledge of endocrine physiology starts falling apart when you get to the details.

So-called phyto-oestrogens (they are flavonoids which have a general molecular resemblance to oestrogens, but have evolved to carry out completely different functions in plants) bind the oestrogen receptors in humans much less strongly than their real counterpart. I suspect the amounts of phyto-oestrogen you would have to take to have the effect of diethylstilbestrol is so high there is a risk of side effects.

Despite Lizzo's reservations the probability of eliminating a cancer is best when the cancer is smallest - in other words when it is known to be present from the PSA reading but is still too small to be detected by scans. The longer you delay radiotherapy the greater the risk of it not completely eliminating the cancer.

I hope Lizzo's husband is fully aware of the risk he is taking by not following his doctor's advice, which will have been given on the basis of his personal situation.

 
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