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Posted 20 Dec 2014 at 18:46
Not been on for a while after op as had a low feeling as everybody else must do, probably a bit of self pity and to much time to reflect yet I should feel lucky that I have been given choices ,wounds have healed well but still got catheter in which has caused me pain discomfort and bleeding got appointment for 31 dec for removal but specialist nurse rattled the cage and got it brought forward to the 24 dec . So feeling p****d off as I have also put weight on with being inactive, sorry for going on as you all must feel the same at times Andy
User
Posted 20 Dec 2014 at 22:51
Hi Andy,

Sorry you are feeling this way, l know what you're going through. It's not easy when you have so much time to think about how your life has changed and what the future may hold.

I have very much been in the same position as you since having my heart attack four weeks ago and it's very easy to slip into a very low mood. Fortunately, during my recent radiotherapy, I saw my GP and he gave me some mild anti-depressant tablets as I was beginning to feel very low. I was very reluctant to start taking them but they have made my life so much better. I'm not sure if I would have been able to cope with the recent heart problems as well as the cancer otherwise.

I do hope you are feeling much better soon, try and enjoy Christmas and even though it's difficult now, if it means you beat cancer, it will be all worth while.

Keep in touch.

Steve

User
Posted 20 Dec 2014 at 22:01
Hi Andy

Sorry you are feeling fed up, who wouldn't after what you have been through. I think this period of healing is a time to be kind to yourself and make sure you take care of yourself, it's all too easy to think that you should bounce back but it's not always that simple.

I hope you start to feel much better very soon, I have no doubt getting that catheter out will be a huge relief.

Merry Christmas

Allison

User
Posted 20 Dec 2014 at 22:11

Andy there is nothing wrong with the occasional bout of self pity !! We are human after all.

Once that catheter is out you'll feel more "normal".

Once you are a little stronger you will get out and about a bit more and the weight will hopefully come down, don't forget though that unless you are REALLY strong willed a bit more weight is likely to go on over the Christmas Period!! But hey, that's what happens.

Keep smiling when you can. Roll on Christmas Eve eh.
Sandra

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 21 Dec 2014 at 11:09

Cheer up Andy.... http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif

Most of us have been through days when we have felt down....

I think it's only natural to feel like this at times.

For my part I found it difficult to accept that I felt perfectly well before my op but 24 hours later returned home as a temporary  'invalid'

When your catheter is  removed you will feel a little more mobile and slowly over a period of months you will return to fitness again..

I still have to use pads daily but am slowly improving......I think maybe I'm taking a little longer than I had hoped for in that respect and that can also make me feel despondent at times.

When I'm feeling low I take a reality check  by looking at my histology results and realising how lucky I am to have hopefully caught this cancer in time...

Good luck with your catheter removal......I'm sure once that is out of the way you will be well on the road to a full recovery

Best Wishes and Seasons Greetings 
Luther

Edited by member 21 Dec 2014 at 11:12  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 21 Dec 2014 at 14:52
Hi Andy

Don't worry about being p'd off. You are entitled to after all you have been through and it is still early days. You are not alone. We all must feel same at some time - I certainly do! After all we are only human.

If I was in your shoes getting the catheter out would be my best Christmas present so I wish you well with this and hope all goes to plan.

I am 2 years post surgery now. Sometimes I cannot believe how time flies, but here I am still alive!

Wishing you all the best.

Kind regards.

User
Posted 22 Dec 2014 at 12:55

 

   

Hi Andy -- Wise words from fellow-posters. Coping with this disease & the after-effects of treatment can put one through the emotional wringer at times. Feeling sorrowful and p****d-off shouldn’t be labelled “self-pity”, but if it persists or shades towards depression, as Steve says, there is help available.

6 months on from RALP, I've also suffered weight-gain through post-op inactivity, & have been down in the dumps from time-to-time. My other half has recently deposited both 5-2 diet manuals on my bedside table, which took a fair amount of self-control not to fling into the nearest re-cycling bin, BUT, I may give it a go -- after Christmas, of course !

Good luck with catheter removal appt on 24th ! Let us know how you get on.

Best,

Morris

Edited by member 22 Dec 2014 at 14:39  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 22 Dec 2014 at 17:58

I entirely agree with you being entitled to be completely and utterly pi55ed off. Me too! I swim just about every day at my club, not just paddling around but quite hard lengths for around 45 mins. followed by 10 mins in the steam room and another 10 in the bubble bath. I don't eat enough to keep a bird alive and I've just put on 4 lbs for no apparent reason. God knows what I will be after Christmas....side of a house springs to mind.

 

Steve

User
Posted 23 Dec 2014 at 14:46

Hi Andy,

If it makes you feel any better - realistically it probably won't - but the period after the op whilst still catheterised rather got to me too and I felt a lot better about things generally once it was out and I was padded up.

I do hope your catheter removal turns out to be as easy as mine was - despite my fears about it, it was actually a total doddle.

Best Wishes

Patrick

 

 

 

Life is a journey. You can't move forward on a journey AND stay in the same place.
User
Posted 23 Dec 2014 at 14:56

Just to say good luck for tomorrow's catheter removal.

Hope all goes well and that you can relax a bit and start healing.

Better out than in eh? !!

All the Best for a truly great Christmas.
Sandra

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 23 Dec 2014 at 15:24

Hi Andy,

The removal of the catheter is a major milestone in your recovery and one that usually goes without a hitch. Nothing to worry about, honestly. If it was I would say, no point dressing anything up and you getting a fright.

Now, as you are having your TWOC so near to Christmas, I would prepare for a few hiccups and issue just in case. I found that after my TWOC I leaked a lot, some others hardly leak at all and are as dry as the sand in an egg timer straight away. I found tat after TWOC I was so knackered trying not to leak and remain active that come the evening I was exhausted. I would then give up trying to stay dry and go with a Convene uri-sheath. A condom like device with a spout at the end which I would connect to a leg bag when I was just peeing myself all the time. I was using 4 level 2 pads a day for some weeks, and at night would "bag up'.

Now you may be dry straight away, but if you are not it may be worth your while asking about conveens and leg bags, JIC. I do recall that not every HT offers them. Have you also got waterproof sheets etc?

Excellent news though regarding TWOC, another sign that your recovery is going in the right direction.

ATB

Dave

User
Posted 23 Dec 2014 at 16:19

Hoping all goes well with the TWOC tomorrow Andy. Believe me you will feel so liberated and well on the way to feeling normal again once it's removed. The procedure itself is painless and extremely quick.

Bri

User
Posted 23 Dec 2014 at 19:29

Hi Andy

You never know how it's going to go.  My journey home was quite an experience.  However, I was dry at night straight away, and 8 months down the line, I only need 1 pad per day, which is never even half full now.

 

All our experiences are different - I hope all goes well for you.

Paul

Stay Calm And Carry On.
User
Posted 24 Dec 2014 at 15:22
Teddy

Message must have crossed, I could happily sit there no problem, then as soon as I got up I would leak. Think the trick is a happy medium of going when you need too and retraining the bladder control not to go too often. Hope all goes well.

Thanks Chris

User
Posted 24 Dec 2014 at 16:03

That's good news, Andy. Hope the discomfort & bleeding has eased. Quite normal to piss oneself regularly at this stage, & as Countryboy says, this is a feature of so-called "stress incontinence" -- the stress in question being movement of most kinds, in my case especially of the bending-down-to-tie-your-shoelaces variety. Keep doing the pelvics & the situation will improve, but patience is the key. Everyone's experience is different, but post-TWOC last July I despaired at filling 6 Tena Level 2 pads a day & suffering regular bathroom accidents, but now the single pad I use is dry most of the time. Also be prepared over the next few weeks for the odd discharge of brown-ish fluid from the penis as the body will gradually rid itself of congealed blood from the site of the operation. When this happened to me I was rather shocked & unprepared, & it also turned out to be the time when my designated urology nurse was on holiday. Getting no response to my anxious voicemails from anyone in my PCT, I called the Prostate Cancer UK helpline, staffed by specialist nurses who gave excellent advice.

Here's to your continued improvement. All the very best for the Festive Season,

Morris  http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif

User
Posted 24 Dec 2014 at 23:12

Sounds very similar to me. Keep up the exercises and you will improve quickly. Get referred asap for free incontinence pads. They become an expensive item very quickly!

Paul

Stay Calm And Carry On.
User
Posted 24 Dec 2014 at 23:19
Glad to hear the catheter is now out at last.

Leakage can be distressing but it will get better in time. It may be strange to say but a sense of humour helped me cope with potentially embarrassing situations.

Wishing you all the best - have a wonderful Christmas.

User
Posted 24 Dec 2014 at 23:44

Sounds perfectly normal to me at your stage.....keep up the PFE'S

Bri

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User
Posted 20 Dec 2014 at 22:01
Hi Andy

Sorry you are feeling fed up, who wouldn't after what you have been through. I think this period of healing is a time to be kind to yourself and make sure you take care of yourself, it's all too easy to think that you should bounce back but it's not always that simple.

I hope you start to feel much better very soon, I have no doubt getting that catheter out will be a huge relief.

Merry Christmas

Allison

User
Posted 20 Dec 2014 at 22:11

Andy there is nothing wrong with the occasional bout of self pity !! We are human after all.

Once that catheter is out you'll feel more "normal".

Once you are a little stronger you will get out and about a bit more and the weight will hopefully come down, don't forget though that unless you are REALLY strong willed a bit more weight is likely to go on over the Christmas Period!! But hey, that's what happens.

Keep smiling when you can. Roll on Christmas Eve eh.
Sandra

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 20 Dec 2014 at 22:51
Hi Andy,

Sorry you are feeling this way, l know what you're going through. It's not easy when you have so much time to think about how your life has changed and what the future may hold.

I have very much been in the same position as you since having my heart attack four weeks ago and it's very easy to slip into a very low mood. Fortunately, during my recent radiotherapy, I saw my GP and he gave me some mild anti-depressant tablets as I was beginning to feel very low. I was very reluctant to start taking them but they have made my life so much better. I'm not sure if I would have been able to cope with the recent heart problems as well as the cancer otherwise.

I do hope you are feeling much better soon, try and enjoy Christmas and even though it's difficult now, if it means you beat cancer, it will be all worth while.

Keep in touch.

Steve

User
Posted 21 Dec 2014 at 11:09

Cheer up Andy.... http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif

Most of us have been through days when we have felt down....

I think it's only natural to feel like this at times.

For my part I found it difficult to accept that I felt perfectly well before my op but 24 hours later returned home as a temporary  'invalid'

When your catheter is  removed you will feel a little more mobile and slowly over a period of months you will return to fitness again..

I still have to use pads daily but am slowly improving......I think maybe I'm taking a little longer than I had hoped for in that respect and that can also make me feel despondent at times.

When I'm feeling low I take a reality check  by looking at my histology results and realising how lucky I am to have hopefully caught this cancer in time...

Good luck with your catheter removal......I'm sure once that is out of the way you will be well on the road to a full recovery

Best Wishes and Seasons Greetings 
Luther

Edited by member 21 Dec 2014 at 11:12  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 21 Dec 2014 at 14:52
Hi Andy

Don't worry about being p'd off. You are entitled to after all you have been through and it is still early days. You are not alone. We all must feel same at some time - I certainly do! After all we are only human.

If I was in your shoes getting the catheter out would be my best Christmas present so I wish you well with this and hope all goes to plan.

I am 2 years post surgery now. Sometimes I cannot believe how time flies, but here I am still alive!

Wishing you all the best.

Kind regards.

User
Posted 22 Dec 2014 at 12:55

 

   

Hi Andy -- Wise words from fellow-posters. Coping with this disease & the after-effects of treatment can put one through the emotional wringer at times. Feeling sorrowful and p****d-off shouldn’t be labelled “self-pity”, but if it persists or shades towards depression, as Steve says, there is help available.

6 months on from RALP, I've also suffered weight-gain through post-op inactivity, & have been down in the dumps from time-to-time. My other half has recently deposited both 5-2 diet manuals on my bedside table, which took a fair amount of self-control not to fling into the nearest re-cycling bin, BUT, I may give it a go -- after Christmas, of course !

Good luck with catheter removal appt on 24th ! Let us know how you get on.

Best,

Morris

Edited by member 22 Dec 2014 at 14:39  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 22 Dec 2014 at 17:58

I entirely agree with you being entitled to be completely and utterly pi55ed off. Me too! I swim just about every day at my club, not just paddling around but quite hard lengths for around 45 mins. followed by 10 mins in the steam room and another 10 in the bubble bath. I don't eat enough to keep a bird alive and I've just put on 4 lbs for no apparent reason. God knows what I will be after Christmas....side of a house springs to mind.

 

Steve

User
Posted 22 Dec 2014 at 18:39

Hi all thanks for your encouragement I feel a bit better than when I posted this , Martenstoves your post made me smile thanks Andy

User
Posted 23 Dec 2014 at 14:46

Hi Andy,

If it makes you feel any better - realistically it probably won't - but the period after the op whilst still catheterised rather got to me too and I felt a lot better about things generally once it was out and I was padded up.

I do hope your catheter removal turns out to be as easy as mine was - despite my fears about it, it was actually a total doddle.

Best Wishes

Patrick

 

 

 

Life is a journey. You can't move forward on a journey AND stay in the same place.
User
Posted 23 Dec 2014 at 14:56

Just to say good luck for tomorrow's catheter removal.

Hope all goes well and that you can relax a bit and start healing.

Better out than in eh? !!

All the Best for a truly great Christmas.
Sandra

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 23 Dec 2014 at 15:24

Hi Andy,

The removal of the catheter is a major milestone in your recovery and one that usually goes without a hitch. Nothing to worry about, honestly. If it was I would say, no point dressing anything up and you getting a fright.

Now, as you are having your TWOC so near to Christmas, I would prepare for a few hiccups and issue just in case. I found that after my TWOC I leaked a lot, some others hardly leak at all and are as dry as the sand in an egg timer straight away. I found tat after TWOC I was so knackered trying not to leak and remain active that come the evening I was exhausted. I would then give up trying to stay dry and go with a Convene uri-sheath. A condom like device with a spout at the end which I would connect to a leg bag when I was just peeing myself all the time. I was using 4 level 2 pads a day for some weeks, and at night would "bag up'.

Now you may be dry straight away, but if you are not it may be worth your while asking about conveens and leg bags, JIC. I do recall that not every HT offers them. Have you also got waterproof sheets etc?

Excellent news though regarding TWOC, another sign that your recovery is going in the right direction.

ATB

Dave

User
Posted 23 Dec 2014 at 16:19

Hoping all goes well with the TWOC tomorrow Andy. Believe me you will feel so liberated and well on the way to feeling normal again once it's removed. The procedure itself is painless and extremely quick.

Bri

User
Posted 23 Dec 2014 at 19:14
Hi Dave thanks for the advice I have pads pants ect just in case, hopefully will feel better after having to travel 30 mile for removal as local hospital cannot do it until 31dec surgeon wanted it removed around 17 dec so will be a week later than he wanted but better than two .Everybody have a great Christmas and a happy new year thinking of you all Andy
User
Posted 23 Dec 2014 at 19:29

Hi Andy

You never know how it's going to go.  My journey home was quite an experience.  However, I was dry at night straight away, and 8 months down the line, I only need 1 pad per day, which is never even half full now.

 

All our experiences are different - I hope all goes well for you.

Paul

Stay Calm And Carry On.
User
Posted 24 Dec 2014 at 14:54

Hi catheter removed came out easily , leaked a bit at hospital then 45 min journey home got out of car and promptly p****d myself , still feel a lot better without my leg bag ect will keep pelvic exercises up and situation should improve ,I am fine when sat no leakage just when standing up ,I will suggest to OH I need waiting on but suspect to be told no chance. Andy

User
Posted 24 Dec 2014 at 15:22
Teddy

Message must have crossed, I could happily sit there no problem, then as soon as I got up I would leak. Think the trick is a happy medium of going when you need too and retraining the bladder control not to go too often. Hope all goes well.

Thanks Chris

User
Posted 24 Dec 2014 at 16:03

That's good news, Andy. Hope the discomfort & bleeding has eased. Quite normal to piss oneself regularly at this stage, & as Countryboy says, this is a feature of so-called "stress incontinence" -- the stress in question being movement of most kinds, in my case especially of the bending-down-to-tie-your-shoelaces variety. Keep doing the pelvics & the situation will improve, but patience is the key. Everyone's experience is different, but post-TWOC last July I despaired at filling 6 Tena Level 2 pads a day & suffering regular bathroom accidents, but now the single pad I use is dry most of the time. Also be prepared over the next few weeks for the odd discharge of brown-ish fluid from the penis as the body will gradually rid itself of congealed blood from the site of the operation. When this happened to me I was rather shocked & unprepared, & it also turned out to be the time when my designated urology nurse was on holiday. Getting no response to my anxious voicemails from anyone in my PCT, I called the Prostate Cancer UK helpline, staffed by specialist nurses who gave excellent advice.

Here's to your continued improvement. All the very best for the Festive Season,

Morris  http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif

User
Posted 24 Dec 2014 at 23:12

Sounds very similar to me. Keep up the exercises and you will improve quickly. Get referred asap for free incontinence pads. They become an expensive item very quickly!

Paul

Stay Calm And Carry On.
User
Posted 24 Dec 2014 at 23:19
Glad to hear the catheter is now out at last.

Leakage can be distressing but it will get better in time. It may be strange to say but a sense of humour helped me cope with potentially embarrassing situations.

Wishing you all the best - have a wonderful Christmas.

User
Posted 24 Dec 2014 at 23:44

Sounds perfectly normal to me at your stage.....keep up the PFE'S

Bri

User
Posted 29 Dec 2014 at 20:27

Feeling a lot better been out to two dog shows over weekend OH running round and managed with two pads at each and no mishaps , drove to the second round trip 80 miles so getting back to a bit of normality ,going to try handling next show to see how's it goes (well the worse that can happen is a puddle on the floor and they have mops for Mishaps) thanks for all the support and messages they are appreciated Andy

User
Posted 29 Dec 2014 at 23:38

Being bent over double will hep you control yourself. Can you show a dog at 90 degrees?

Make a solution to overcome your problem.

ATB

Dave

User
Posted 30 Dec 2014 at 01:20

Teddyedward, I would be very surprised if you are insured to drive this soon after surgery. Have you informed your insurers of your change in circumstances? If not, I really hope that you were in the passenger seat!!!!!

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 31 Dec 2014 at 13:29

Hi Dave will try touching my toes as no bending with dogs as are big ,Lynn told I can drive by hospital , had my new year surprise in post this morning appointment with RT consultant end of January so looks like I have RT to look forward to .Andy

 
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