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Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 13:01

I have heard that you can get pads on NHS but my GP says they can not is this another case of post code lottery.

 

Be good to hear if you got them or where you purchase.

User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 07:05

Thanks everyone.

When I had the specialist nurse take the bag off ,she gave me a few samples and said I MAY get some on prescriptions .so I contacted my GP who said he could prescribe them on a private prescription they would be around £10 a pack and would be more than I could buy them for.

I went to local supermarkets and boots purchasing from boots, also enquired on line getting some awrful ones from Age uk. Looking a bit more I found Ambri man who I purchased 5 packs of 14 that have lasted around 4 weeks are currently using around 4 per day or 28 a week.

 

I raised the question because I spoke with some one who l lives around 5 miles away and he said he received 6 months supply free of charge , so I spoke again to my GP who confirmed he could only supply them on a private prescription (saying he has patients who require them for 20 years it still the same). 

And the replies I have received confirms that it depends on where you live and that makes my blood boil as I am lucky it is not going to break the bank but for some one on minimum wage or low income £10 a week mounts up. 

 

So I will raise the question with our local MP to explain why one of his voters can be treated differently to another, I hate post code lotteries  

 

pinny

User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 16:22

Hi Pinny1952,

I have the same trouble getting any pads on prescription from my GP.. ( I'm now approx 9 months post op but still using 2 pads a day on average )

I think it was Lyn who said that after 6 months you should be entitled to them on NHS regardless of local policy.....

I gave up in the end and order mine from the site in the link below...

I use Abriman Formula 2 and get them VAT free so it does help a little with cost....

I find for me they are better than Tena as they have 'pockets' in the sides which help hold 'everything' in place when I'm out walking across the fields with my dogs

Best Wishes 
Luther






http://www.incontinencesupermarket.co.uk/brands/abena/abena-abri-man

User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 16:39

It's such a shame that there is no continuity across the country!!

I had three boxes of pads delivered even before I went in for the operation from NHS supplies.

User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 21:58

Pinny

I had 180 pads delivered before my op. in our area you can refer yourself directly to the continence advisory service. Check to see if you have a continence advisory service in your area.

Thanks Chris

User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 22:02

Thanks Luther

 

I have already ordered twice from them and find them quite usefull  , however I was told by some else who lives about 5 miles away he got six months supply.

 

He maybe in Bedfordshire and I am Buckinghamshire sounds like a typical it depends on where you live.

 

That should not affect the level of treatment.

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User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 16:09

Hi

I have no experience of incontinence pads etc despite having dealt with waterworks problems for many years since diagnosis. To get you started have a look at the link below.

http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/can-i-get-incontinence-products-on-the-nhs.aspx?CategoryID=68&SubCategoryID=154

Also, if you google “NHS incontinence service” this may be helpful. I am sure you will get a good response from others who have had waterworks problems.

Alan

User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 16:22

Hi Pinny1952,

I have the same trouble getting any pads on prescription from my GP.. ( I'm now approx 9 months post op but still using 2 pads a day on average )

I think it was Lyn who said that after 6 months you should be entitled to them on NHS regardless of local policy.....

I gave up in the end and order mine from the site in the link below...

I use Abriman Formula 2 and get them VAT free so it does help a little with cost....

I find for me they are better than Tena as they have 'pockets' in the sides which help hold 'everything' in place when I'm out walking across the fields with my dogs

Best Wishes 
Luther






http://www.incontinencesupermarket.co.uk/brands/abena/abena-abri-man

User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 16:39

It's such a shame that there is no continuity across the country!!

I had three boxes of pads delivered even before I went in for the operation from NHS supplies.

User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 16:46

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

It's such a shame that there is no continuity across the country!!

I had three boxes of pads delivered even before I went in for the operation from NHS supplies.



I agree Trevor....

As far as I'm aware I've paid the same NI contributions as everyone else... 

When I asked about pads before my op........The response I had was, " How do you know you are going to need them?"

Yeah right!....... Wish I could have quiet word with the nurse who told me that.....  


* Edited*

PS .............I've got little to complain about really, just find it difficult to understand why there is so much variation from area to area... 

All down to local budgets maybe?

Edited by member 25 Mar 2015 at 17:03  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 17:55
After my op the urology department contacted local incontinence services for delivery of free pads (tena). I was entitled to 2 free day pads and 1 night pad to cover a 24 hour period. The delivery covered 3 month period and after that I ordered my next 3 months supply and so forth. I took advantage of this service for about a year, until I didn't need them anymore.

If I was in your position I would refer to your hospital urology department or your specialist nurse or maybe your consultant - in other words by-pass your GP. I think it is worth trying at least. If you don't ask there is no chance but if you ask you have 50/50.

I hope you have some success - it does seem unfair if it is postcode lottery.

Before the pads arrived I did have to buy some - I found Morrisons own brand quite reasonable and effective.

Good luck!

Best wishes.

User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 20:59

Not guilty. As far as I understand, it varies dramatically from CCG to CCG. In our area, you have to have been incontinent for at least 6 months and then seek a GP referral to district nursing. They have to be satisfied that you are properly incontinent rather than a bit dribbly (how incontinent is incontinent???) and then you might be lucky enough to get them on prescription. No choice of make / type - much easier to just go to Morrisons or Tesco and buy them in bulk whenever there is a BOGOF offer going.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 21:08

It is post code lottery I am afraid. I can't get them on the NHS because I am not incontinent enough! But I am still working full time so the cost isn't an issue for me. I had a month or so about 5 months post surgery free of the things but then had radiotherapy which for what ever reason gave me a slight incontinence problem, just the odd drip when I cough and sometime when I am tired. I have been wearing a single very light pad every day for the past 18 months or so. I too used the Abriman level 2 or 3 after surgery then when It came back after RT I started using a very light weight brand called Attends for men (number 1) these are only 3 mm thick and work very well. I buy them in bulk from Incontinence Choice.

User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 21:58

Pinny

I had 180 pads delivered before my op. in our area you can refer yourself directly to the continence advisory service. Check to see if you have a continence advisory service in your area.

Thanks Chris

User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 22:02

Thanks Luther

 

I have already ordered twice from them and find them quite usefull  , however I was told by some else who lives about 5 miles away he got six months supply.

 

He maybe in Bedfordshire and I am Buckinghamshire sounds like a typical it depends on where you live.

 

That should not affect the level of treatment.

User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 22:17

I got mine on prescription from Charter Health Care in Peterborough. Can you find out if anyone else in your area gets them on the NHS? Can you make sure your GP has not got it wrong?

TENA sometimes have offers for bulk buys if you go direct to them. You would have to monitor their website.

dave

User
Posted 25 Mar 2015 at 23:41

I started getting mine about 2/months post op. I was referred by my GP to the incontinence clinic! When I needed my 2nd lot, I rang the given number and was sent 18 packs 14, no questions asked.

Paul

Stay Calm And Carry On.
User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 07:05

Thanks everyone.

When I had the specialist nurse take the bag off ,she gave me a few samples and said I MAY get some on prescriptions .so I contacted my GP who said he could prescribe them on a private prescription they would be around £10 a pack and would be more than I could buy them for.

I went to local supermarkets and boots purchasing from boots, also enquired on line getting some awrful ones from Age uk. Looking a bit more I found Ambri man who I purchased 5 packs of 14 that have lasted around 4 weeks are currently using around 4 per day or 28 a week.

 

I raised the question because I spoke with some one who l lives around 5 miles away and he said he received 6 months supply free of charge , so I spoke again to my GP who confirmed he could only supply them on a private prescription (saying he has patients who require them for 20 years it still the same). 

And the replies I have received confirms that it depends on where you live and that makes my blood boil as I am lucky it is not going to break the bank but for some one on minimum wage or low income £10 a week mounts up. 

 

So I will raise the question with our local MP to explain why one of his voters can be treated differently to another, I hate post code lotteries  

 

pinny

User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 13:30

I must be in the lucky camp, 2 months or so post op, I took delivery of pads, I get a delivery every 3 months..its very welcome

I saw my local district nurse recently to change my order as I just needed a smaller pad, that was no problem, cant understand why theres a postcode lottery, were all adults and been paying tax for many years I expect, surely were entitled to this, you dont have to look to far to find examples of NHS waste, i.e. free treatment for some who've contributed zero to the UK for starters !

consider complaining to your local MP, as they now want our votes, they may actually listen, they need reminding some of us have been faithfull taxpayers for 30- 40-50+ years etc.

you can email most of them directly, just include your name and address so they know your a constituant.....good luck

Edited by member 26 Mar 2015 at 15:33  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 18:53

This is just ridiculous. Anyone who knocks on my door will be asked a few questions before I vote!!

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User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 19:11

My husband was not allowed any and our Dr agreed that it wasn't fair. We ordered them from a website in bulk. One year on he only wears one if we are going out for a long time and not sure where toilets are. He had his one year check yesterday and psa was what it should be.

User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 19:16

Excellent news - keep up the recovery. For those who have to pay and are nowhere near continence it must be so expensive. This must relly be sorted nationally. Postcode lotteries are just ridiculous.

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User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 23:39

Ask to be referred to The Continence Clinic, then if your area has such a clinic, that is the source of pads after their continence leaflet checks, one rights down how wet / damp they are. (Bedfordshire/Hertfordshire and Essex are good) So yes it is a postcode problem but persevere.


Chris.

User
Posted 28 Mar 2015 at 07:07

I have again spoke to my friend who lives a short distance from myself and he does live in the same health authority.

 

So will look more.

User
Posted 30 Jul 2015 at 09:06

Last week I finally received my pads on NHS over 6 months after my operation.

I had a appointment to see the incontinence nurse or should I say incompetent nurse  who took an hour  to explain why you become incontinent after the operation . All information I already knew and could have done in 5 minutes if I was indirect.

 

She arranged a home visit and after 5 telephone calls explaining how to get 500 yards from my home to our house, I eventually called the PALS complaint service. 

 

I have now received an official apology saying I should have received them with in days of the operation.

 

So can I congratulate BUCKS HEALTH CARE THRUST on a 7 star foul up.

 

BUT ANY ONE LIVING IN BUCKS YOU SHOULD NOW GET YOUR PADS WHEN YOU NEED THEM>

 

 

User
Posted 30 Jul 2015 at 11:31

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Last week I finally received my pads on NHS over 6 months after my operation.

I had a appointment to see the incontinence nurse or should I say incompetent nurse  who took an hour  to explain why you become incontinent after the operation . All information I already knew and could have done in 5 minutes if I was indirect.

 

She arranged a home visit and after 5 telephone calls explaining how to get 500 yards from my home to our house, I eventually called the PALS complaint service. 

 

I have now received an official apology saying I should have received them with in days of the operation.

 

So can I congratulate BUCKS HEALTH CARE THRUST on a 7 star foul up.

 

BUT ANY ONE LIVING IN BUCKS YOU SHOULD NOW GET YOUR PADS WHEN YOU NEED THEM>

 

 

 

 

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Full marks to you for persisting...... 

I gave up trying to get pads from my lot months ago.  After making several inquiries via my GP and specialist nurse I just couldn't be bothered to go through all the hassle involved.

13 months on and I'm still using 1 pad a day ( 2 on odd occasions if my activity levels are raised from my normal ) 

The financial cost has reduced somewhat from what I was spending 6 months ago, and I remain hopeful that things will improve even further in the next 6 months or so.....
Luther

Edited by member 30 Jul 2015 at 11:33  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 30 Jul 2015 at 21:47

Need to persist it should not matter where you live every one should be treated fairly.

User
Posted 30 Jul 2015 at 22:10

I was told quite clearly that in the Southampton area I would not be supplied with any pads whatsoever. I was given 1 nappy the day my catheter came out , and since then have had to fend for myself. Luckily I've been very continent

User
Posted 30 Jul 2015 at 22:32

Not sure what arrangements your local area has, but when I was out of hospital and needed shed loads of pads, conveens, I was able to order online via Charter in Peterborough. I had to give them my details and I just ordered what I needed as and when. This was on prescription.

hth

dave

All we can do - is do all that we can.

So, do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)

I am the statistic.

User
Posted 30 Jul 2015 at 22:51

Very lucky to get them om prescription. I just ring a number when I need some more, although I'm given enough for 7/8 months.

Paul

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