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Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 16:46

Hi everyone,


I have been following this website for a few months now and would first like to say reading through the site and the forum has given me a great deal of information.


I had a biopsy in January and ONE sample out of the eight taken came back possative.


At 55 years old with a five year old daughter this came as a bit of a shock to both me and my wife because to be honest it "only happens to others"..well I am now one of the others.


This morning I went to see the urologist to discuss treatment and with a PSA of 7 and a Gleason score of 3+3 I (we) have opted for the Active Surveillence.


We came to the conclusion that if I have to have treatment we would leave it as late as possible and if say this is in five six or even ten years then why suffer the possible side effects  that would /could change our quality of life when I am still feeling fit and healthy.


Its a bit strange because the urologist used to serve behind my local bar when he was in training and this seem's to have made discussions a lot easier and relaxed which has been a massive help.


The wife was devestated at first but Men United and all the information on here has made her more relaxed and along with the relationship with the urologist she is now coming to terms.


One question.....has anyone else or is anyone else opted for/ on Active Surveillence ?


I have been told I will need PSA test's every three months and MRI scan every 12 months (my first MRI is scheduled for september..again my choice so if the results are not good I will have at least had my holiday's :-) )


I was on a course of 90 tablets...Silodyx 8mg..but stopped taking them due to reverse ejaculation and to be honest I feel no different apart from now the wife is happy again :-)


So guys if my MRI scan comes back good what goes on ??


At the moment I am still doing my normal work in  the construction game and the only symptoms I have are a weak bladder.


I live in the Netherlands and from the start the urologist insisted removal of the prostate was not an option and today I also asked about my second option of  HDR Brachytherapy.


He agreed this was another choice but no hospital's in the Netherlands carry out this treatment and it would mean going to Germany.


I feel confident that I can face up to anything that this will throw at me but advice and information would be great guys.


 


 


 

User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 17:57

Hi Tomo,

Sorry you join us with having been diagnosed with PCa albeit at an early stage. PCa can be slow growing and it can be a well reasoned choice to delay treatment in these circumstances and thereby defer treatment and potential side effects. However, PCa can mutate and become more aggressive so it is essential that you are regularly monitored as proposed, so treatment can in need be started without delay if the situation calls for it. Should this happen you don't want to delay it until you have lost your best chance of a cure.

Hope you will not need radical treatment for a long time (if at all) and perhaps by then advances in treatment will offer even better outcomes.

Barry
User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 18:33

If it is felt AS is a viable option and you are comfortable with that, then that's great. Some can live with AS, others can't, and feel the need  to treat the cancer.


IF you find you are worrying all the time, then speak to your onco - dealing with AS mentally is just as important as dealing with the emotion side of direct treatment.


Paul

Edited by member 26 Mar 2015 at 19:17  | Reason: Not specified

Stay Calm And Carry On.
User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 18:48

Sorry your here Tomo , I notice you have opted for your MRI in September I would have had this earlier just in case, I had no symptoms and had a PSA of 5.7 but ended up having treatment you do not want to miss the chance of a cure by delaying tests all the best Andy

User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 20:21
Hello, my other half was diagnosed last June, (we also have 3 young children, youngest 5) his Psa was 3.9 Gleason 3+3 he also had an MRI. We were pushed in the direction of AS. Having read on here of people with lower psa and it spreading I was a little nervous of AS. We were given booklets about AS, radiotherapy and brachy.
We did research and left it a few months, we were told to have 3 monthly psa tests, also they suggested doing a much bigger biopsy in a few months.
Anyway by December psa was 4.9 we both decided we couldn't leave it anymore. As my OH had bowel problems (that is why he went to gp, no prostate symptoms) they said EBRT may upset the bowels more. Surgery was not suggested, the best option seemed Bracjytherapy so he had it done Jan this year. So yes we tried AS but couldn't handle it. In a way the OH wishes he hadn't had the Brachy due to side effects, but hopefully once they have calmed down he will be happier. If you are ok on AS then it is a good option, but we were too worried Incase it grew or spread. In a way I felt like you, why treat if it is not necessary.
I am probably of no help but just sharing our experience.
All the best.
User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 20:26

Hello Tomo and welcome
My husband was on Active Surveillance for a year before his PSA started to rise and he had to make a choice of treatment. He opted for Low Dose Brachytherapy and this was carried our in June last year
He was 73 at the time of the procedure. So far, apart from a few niggling problems, he is fine.

Also look at Kennt's icon

If you have been following the site for a while then you probably already know how to get a persons profile to read the history of their journey. If not, just click on the persons icon and it will led you to their page.

You can also go to the home page, click on INFORMATION then PUBLICATIONS, and this is where you can obtain "The Toolkit", a set of publications dealing with diagnosis, treatments, relationships, sexual matters.
It is a great help

Best wishes
Sandra

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 27 Mar 2015 at 09:49

Hi
I have been on AS since the end of 2012. 3 monthly PSA checks and annual biopsy and MRI. See my profile for more details.
My first response on diagnosis was to have surgery or RT. After much research and discussions with nurse specialist I decided to follow the AS path. This avoids the side effects of treatment, but still allows for action if required.
So far all is going to plan, and hopefully will continue.

Alan

User
Posted 29 Mar 2015 at 20:08

Good evening Tomoholland,

Sorry to see you here, but I have a view on your options.

I note that your PSA was 7 at last test. Do you have any other Gleason scores and dates to compare increase and at what rate?

I also note that you have 1 out of 8 samples as positive, I had 3 from 8, but with a Gleason 7. Who is to say that every other sample did not just miss a cancerous cell? Sorry if this is not what you want to hear, but I believe it is worth asking.

My PSA rise from 5.5 to 6.4 in one month, indicating an aggressive cancer. Without other PSA samples to look at how do you know how aggressive your cancer is?

I had no symptoms at all. None. You have a physical symptom, a weak bladder.

As far as I am aware the sooner any cancer is dealt with the better with, the better the potential outcomes for the patient.

If you and your OH are happy with AS, excellent.

MRI in September? I would not be happy with that at all.

If I were you, I would:

1. ask for another PSA one month after my last test.

2. Get an MRI scan ASAP.

3. Have another biopsy, template if available?

Just to be sure.

Whatever you and your OH decide to do, I wish you well.

dave

User
Posted 29 Mar 2015 at 21:40
Hi TomOholland,

My husband was diagnosed prostate cancer in January this year...PSA 7.4, no symptoms, biopsy gleason 6. He's 62. He has MRI in April, and is going on active surveillance. It feels the best option for now.

The urology consultant guided us with the decision, but did say some men couldn't live with the knowledge they had a cancer...and wanted action despite potential side effects.

It's a difficult call...

Best wishes

Sue
User
Posted 30 Mar 2015 at 01:06

CB, did you pick up that Tomo is in Holland where AS is much more the norm and I presume there is no NHS?

Tomo, did you have any scans along with your diagnosis in January and is the September one a repeat? Also, this may seem weird thing to say but if you were planning on having any more children, best to get on with it now just in case you do need radical treatment sooner rather than later :-)

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 31 Mar 2015 at 09:41

I was booked in for my MRI in May but after talking to the specialist we decided to put it back to September.He did say that this would a better diagnosis something to do with the later after the biopsi the more accurate the MRI scan so I am comfortable with it .Thanks your thoughts as I am here to get advice from all sides .

Edited by member 31 Mar 2015 at 11:04  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 27 May 2015 at 16:18

Good news for you all Tomoholland.

Long may it continue.

dave

All we can do - is do all that we can.


So, do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)


I am the statistic.

User
Posted 27 May 2015 at 16:21

I'll bet. In fact I think I heard it from here!!

We started off on AS and that was our preferred choice, for exactly the same reasons as you.

However, there comes a time, hopefully a lot later in your case, where a decision has to be made.

For some though that decision is immediate because they just want it done and dusted. I can understand that stance and wish each and everyone of you who took that path, good luck and best wishes.

We've now joined the treated section of the site and hopefully, for us too, our decision was the right one.

Best wishes
Sandra

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 28 May 2015 at 10:21

Good luck with your continued AS. Long may it continue.

Paul

Stay Calm And Carry On.
User
Posted 01 Oct 2015 at 15:17

Well done - sounds good! Hope it lasts. Nice to read some good news!


 


Best wishes


 


sjb

User
Posted 14 Jan 2016 at 09:36

Congratulations Tomo to you and I am sure the OH is very happy as well. Hopefully the PSA will maintain or continue to fall and like every thing in life carry on until the next hurdle.

Stay positive and live your life after this scare it makes you think about now more often than the future.

Best wishes, Chris/ Woody

Life seems different upside down, take another viewpoint

User
Posted 14 Jan 2016 at 11:23

Glad it's all going to plan Tomo, long may it last for you.

If, IF IF there is a change in March and you have to make a decision re: treatment then at least you've lived the intervening months as normally as possible.

Good luck for the next test
Best Wishes
Sandra

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 14 Jan 2016 at 17:21

That is brilliant news Tomoholland, congratulations to you and to your family.

As for the lull before the storm?

Worry about the storm when you start to feel the rain on your face and the wind in your hair.*

Have a great weekend.

dave

*assuming you have hair? ;-)

All we can do - is do all that we can.


So, do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)


I am the statistic.

User
Posted 16 Jan 2016 at 18:47

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


Full head at the moment 


Lucky chap.  The last hair I feel the wind in is as it blows up............................................................... are my eyebrows.  http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-surprised.gif


atb for the weekend 


dave

All we can do - is do all that we can.


So, do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)


I am the statistic.

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User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 17:57

Hi Tomo,

Sorry you join us with having been diagnosed with PCa albeit at an early stage. PCa can be slow growing and it can be a well reasoned choice to delay treatment in these circumstances and thereby defer treatment and potential side effects. However, PCa can mutate and become more aggressive so it is essential that you are regularly monitored as proposed, so treatment can in need be started without delay if the situation calls for it. Should this happen you don't want to delay it until you have lost your best chance of a cure.

Hope you will not need radical treatment for a long time (if at all) and perhaps by then advances in treatment will offer even better outcomes.

Barry
User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 18:33

If it is felt AS is a viable option and you are comfortable with that, then that's great. Some can live with AS, others can't, and feel the need  to treat the cancer.


IF you find you are worrying all the time, then speak to your onco - dealing with AS mentally is just as important as dealing with the emotion side of direct treatment.


Paul

Edited by member 26 Mar 2015 at 19:17  | Reason: Not specified

Stay Calm And Carry On.
User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 18:48

Sorry your here Tomo , I notice you have opted for your MRI in September I would have had this earlier just in case, I had no symptoms and had a PSA of 5.7 but ended up having treatment you do not want to miss the chance of a cure by delaying tests all the best Andy

User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 20:21
Hello, my other half was diagnosed last June, (we also have 3 young children, youngest 5) his Psa was 3.9 Gleason 3+3 he also had an MRI. We were pushed in the direction of AS. Having read on here of people with lower psa and it spreading I was a little nervous of AS. We were given booklets about AS, radiotherapy and brachy.
We did research and left it a few months, we were told to have 3 monthly psa tests, also they suggested doing a much bigger biopsy in a few months.
Anyway by December psa was 4.9 we both decided we couldn't leave it anymore. As my OH had bowel problems (that is why he went to gp, no prostate symptoms) they said EBRT may upset the bowels more. Surgery was not suggested, the best option seemed Bracjytherapy so he had it done Jan this year. So yes we tried AS but couldn't handle it. In a way the OH wishes he hadn't had the Brachy due to side effects, but hopefully once they have calmed down he will be happier. If you are ok on AS then it is a good option, but we were too worried Incase it grew or spread. In a way I felt like you, why treat if it is not necessary.
I am probably of no help but just sharing our experience.
All the best.
User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 20:26

Hello Tomo and welcome
My husband was on Active Surveillance for a year before his PSA started to rise and he had to make a choice of treatment. He opted for Low Dose Brachytherapy and this was carried our in June last year
He was 73 at the time of the procedure. So far, apart from a few niggling problems, he is fine.

Also look at Kennt's icon

If you have been following the site for a while then you probably already know how to get a persons profile to read the history of their journey. If not, just click on the persons icon and it will led you to their page.

You can also go to the home page, click on INFORMATION then PUBLICATIONS, and this is where you can obtain "The Toolkit", a set of publications dealing with diagnosis, treatments, relationships, sexual matters.
It is a great help

Best wishes
Sandra

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 26 Mar 2015 at 21:20

Hi Tomo,
In the pan European data collection, Dutch men do far better than men treated in the UK. UK men tend to be diagnosed later, have more radical treatment and therefore more side effects. At least you know that the AS being proposed for you is properly planned ... regular PSA with annual MRI and (ideally) regular DRE is the expected standard. So my advice would be trust your oncologist :-)

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 27 Mar 2015 at 09:49

Hi
I have been on AS since the end of 2012. 3 monthly PSA checks and annual biopsy and MRI. See my profile for more details.
My first response on diagnosis was to have surgery or RT. After much research and discussions with nurse specialist I decided to follow the AS path. This avoids the side effects of treatment, but still allows for action if required.
So far all is going to plan, and hopefully will continue.

Alan

User
Posted 29 Mar 2015 at 14:25

Can't find the study now but it suggested that following an anti-P.Ca diet delayed the need for treatments for up to an extra two years.


( No red meat, egg yolk, dairy etc . )


In fact it suggested that same worked on all stages from the slowing-of-progression angle. Perhaps excluding very advanced but it certainly mentioned metastatic cases.


 

User
Posted 29 Mar 2015 at 20:08

Good evening Tomoholland,

Sorry to see you here, but I have a view on your options.

I note that your PSA was 7 at last test. Do you have any other Gleason scores and dates to compare increase and at what rate?

I also note that you have 1 out of 8 samples as positive, I had 3 from 8, but with a Gleason 7. Who is to say that every other sample did not just miss a cancerous cell? Sorry if this is not what you want to hear, but I believe it is worth asking.

My PSA rise from 5.5 to 6.4 in one month, indicating an aggressive cancer. Without other PSA samples to look at how do you know how aggressive your cancer is?

I had no symptoms at all. None. You have a physical symptom, a weak bladder.

As far as I am aware the sooner any cancer is dealt with the better with, the better the potential outcomes for the patient.

If you and your OH are happy with AS, excellent.

MRI in September? I would not be happy with that at all.

If I were you, I would:

1. ask for another PSA one month after my last test.

2. Get an MRI scan ASAP.

3. Have another biopsy, template if available?

Just to be sure.

Whatever you and your OH decide to do, I wish you well.

dave

User
Posted 29 Mar 2015 at 21:40
Hi TomOholland,

My husband was diagnosed prostate cancer in January this year...PSA 7.4, no symptoms, biopsy gleason 6. He's 62. He has MRI in April, and is going on active surveillance. It feels the best option for now.

The urology consultant guided us with the decision, but did say some men couldn't live with the knowledge they had a cancer...and wanted action despite potential side effects.

It's a difficult call...

Best wishes

Sue
User
Posted 30 Mar 2015 at 01:06

CB, did you pick up that Tomo is in Holland where AS is much more the norm and I presume there is no NHS?

Tomo, did you have any scans along with your diagnosis in January and is the September one a repeat? Also, this may seem weird thing to say but if you were planning on having any more children, best to get on with it now just in case you do need radical treatment sooner rather than later :-)

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 31 Mar 2015 at 09:41

I was booked in for my MRI in May but after talking to the specialist we decided to put it back to September.He did say that this would a better diagnosis something to do with the later after the biopsi the more accurate the MRI scan so I am comfortable with it .Thanks your thoughts as I am here to get advice from all sides .

Edited by member 31 Mar 2015 at 11:04  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 31 Mar 2015 at 09:46

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


Hi Tomo,
In the pan European data collection, Dutch men do far better than men treated in the UK. UK men tend to be diagnosed later, have more radical treatment and therefore more side effects. At least you know that the AS being proposed for you is properly planned ... regular PSA with annual MRI and (ideally) regular DRE is the expected standard. So my advice would be trust your oncologist :-)



 


Thanks LyneEyre,


My mate in the UK had his prostate taken out with little information about the effect it would have on his life style.I do feel that here in the Netherlands they seem to have a different outlook to PC and at the moment I am comfortable with the information and care I am getting.Further down the line I (we) may have to make a decision but for now I am happy / relaxed with my situation.

Edited by member 31 Mar 2015 at 11:02  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 31 Mar 2015 at 11:11

No plans for anymore kids Lynne...Feel I was lucky enough to have "me laal princess" when I was 50.With a son that I didnt see after my first marriage break up she is my life and soul and keeps me young.http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif Off course my wife and daughter are my main concern but as you say being in the Netherlands I feel that they are more advanced in certain medical fields than the UK and talking to mates back home who have had to deal with PC I have confidence in the way I am getting care. You are also correct as we have no NHS over here and we pay a hefty sum everymonth for our medical insurance.


 


On a different note...I have not lost my English spelling skills but this computer key board must need a good dust down http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif

User
Posted 31 Mar 2015 at 11:25

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


Good evening Tomoholland,


Sorry to see you here, but I have a view on your options.


I note that your PSA was 7 at last test. Do you have any other Gleason scores and dates to compare increase and at what rate?


I also note that you have 1 out of 8 samples as positive, I had 3 from 8, but with a Gleason 7. Who is to say that every other sample did not just miss a cancerous cell? Sorry if this is not what you want to hear, but I believe it is worth asking.


My PSA rise from 5.5 to 6.4 in one month, indicating an aggressive cancer. Without other PSA samples to look at how do you know how aggressive your cancer is?


I had no symptoms at all. None. You have a physical symptom, a weak bladder.


As far as I am aware the sooner any cancer is dealt with the better with, the better the potential outcomes for the patient.


If you and your OH are happy with AS, excellent.


MRI in September? I would not be happy with that at all.


If I were you, I would:


1. ask for another PSA one month after my last test.


2. Get an MRI scan ASAP.


3. Have another biopsy, template if available?


Just to be sure.


Whatever you and your OH decide to do, I wish you well.


dave



Cheers Dave...this was my first test's so I have no previous scores to compare.At the last meeting with the specialist he went through the options and when I told him I wanted to go on AS he told me that was what his team had decided would be best for me and my lifestyle BUT he needed to hear it from me (and the wife).So I feel its good that we are both thinking (at the moment) on the same lines.IF my PSA rises then the option of treatment is there and we will cross that bridge when we come to it.I have not got my head in the sand over this and have discussed it in depth with my wife and specialist.I am not a weak guy but I also realise the risk I MAY be taking by delaying any treatment.That word CANCER scares people but PC can be treated and I know one day (maybe sooner than later) I MAY have to take action.This website and other info on the internet,talking with the specialist and mates back in the UK has made the mrs more relaxed about the situation and that is a big plus.She went through a cervical cancer scare four years ago so its not something we take lightly.


Thanks for you thoughts and everything is being taken on board guys.

Edited by member 31 Mar 2015 at 11:27  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 31 Mar 2015 at 11:32

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


Hi
I have been on AS since the end of 2012. 3 monthly PSA checks and annual biopsy and MRI. See my profile for more details.
My first response on diagnosis was to have surgery or RT. After much research and discussions with nurse specialist I decided to follow the AS path. This avoids the side effects of treatment, but still allows for action if required.
So far all is going to plan, and hopefully will continue.


Alan



Thanks for that Alan...Its good to hear another guy who is also happy with AS and good luck on your journey.


 

User
Posted 27 May 2015 at 15:00

Ok guys I have been quiet of late due to fact I am on AS and had nothing to report.


Just returned from an appointment with my urologist and surprise surprise my PSA level has DROPPED from 7 down to 3.5.


He said if my levels had risen to above 8 then we would have had to talk about treatment, but since they have dropped he is more than happy to let me continue with AS.


Why the drop ??


He is unsure but its a relief for me and the family.


Next up is an MRI scan (which I have put back till after my holidays in September)


Gambling ??


Maybe....... but my mind set is why have side effects from any treatment (which will spoil my lifestyle and family activaties) until treatment is unavoidable.


I know some people would not be able to handle that but for me the wife and my urologist we are happy to go down that road.


So far everything working out fine..... but yes I did give a massive sigh of relief.

Edited by member 27 May 2015 at 20:33  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 27 May 2015 at 16:18

Good news for you all Tomoholland.

Long may it continue.

dave

All we can do - is do all that we can.


So, do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)


I am the statistic.

User
Posted 27 May 2015 at 16:21

I'll bet. In fact I think I heard it from here!!

We started off on AS and that was our preferred choice, for exactly the same reasons as you.

However, there comes a time, hopefully a lot later in your case, where a decision has to be made.

For some though that decision is immediate because they just want it done and dusted. I can understand that stance and wish each and everyone of you who took that path, good luck and best wishes.

We've now joined the treated section of the site and hopefully, for us too, our decision was the right one.

Best wishes
Sandra

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 28 May 2015 at 10:21

Good luck with your continued AS. Long may it continue.

Paul

Stay Calm And Carry On.
User
Posted 01 Oct 2015 at 12:55

Long time since I posted as I have been lucky enough to continue my life with very little effects.


Today I got my results from my latest PSA and MRI tests.


I wonder at times what is going on !!


After the initial scare of being told I have PC everything seems to be going in reverse.


Today the specialist tells me the MRI test was inconclusive..what does that mean? ..excuse the language BUT WHAT THE FOOK.... we have been on a knife edge since I took the MRI and he now tells me its inconclusive.


To add to the good news my PSA level is now sitting at 2.8..the second time it has fallen from an initial 7 !!!!!!!


Did they make a mistake on the biopsy...he says no, samples came back malignant.


Very very glad I opted for Active Survailence as despite the initial shock of being diagnosed with PC this "Gamble"as been a winner (So far).


I am not naive enough to believe that everything in 100% but at the moment me and the family are one set of happy bunnies.


Reading some of the situations a lot of families are going through due to PC, I sometimes sit back and wonder if I am a lucky lucky guy and maybe my journey can be of comfort to some people and it is not all doom and gloom.


Be strong have faith.

User
Posted 01 Oct 2015 at 15:17

Well done - sounds good! Hope it lasts. Nice to read some good news!


 


Best wishes


 


sjb

User
Posted 14 Jan 2016 at 09:09

Yet another 3 month check up and yet another possative result...PSA dropped again to 2.2. ????


Feeling a very very lucky guy.


Next stage is another biopsy in March.


Just hoping and praying this last 12 months is not the calm before the storm but a happy bunny at this moment.

User
Posted 14 Jan 2016 at 09:36

Congratulations Tomo to you and I am sure the OH is very happy as well. Hopefully the PSA will maintain or continue to fall and like every thing in life carry on until the next hurdle.

Stay positive and live your life after this scare it makes you think about now more often than the future.

Best wishes, Chris/ Woody

Life seems different upside down, take another viewpoint

User
Posted 14 Jan 2016 at 11:23

Glad it's all going to plan Tomo, long may it last for you.

If, IF IF there is a change in March and you have to make a decision re: treatment then at least you've lived the intervening months as normally as possible.

Good luck for the next test
Best Wishes
Sandra

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 14 Jan 2016 at 17:21

That is brilliant news Tomoholland, congratulations to you and to your family.

As for the lull before the storm?

Worry about the storm when you start to feel the rain on your face and the wind in your hair.*

Have a great weekend.

dave

*assuming you have hair? ;-)

All we can do - is do all that we can.


So, do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)


I am the statistic.

User
Posted 16 Jan 2016 at 16:07

Full head at the moment Countryboy9..get asked if I use Grecian 2000 quite often ... just starting to turn silver in places (refuse to say grey) ...Thanks for your comments ..;-)

User
Posted 16 Jan 2016 at 18:47

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


Full head at the moment 


Lucky chap.  The last hair I feel the wind in is as it blows up............................................................... are my eyebrows.  http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-surprised.gif


atb for the weekend 


dave

All we can do - is do all that we can.


So, do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)


I am the statistic.

 
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