Dairy-free - how about sheep / goat's milk products?

Hello Chromedome and welcome to the site.

We have used Soya milk for years, even before prostate cancer, and it really doesn't work in coffee, Yuk!!
Perfectly acceptable in tea though. (No curdling)

We only used organic Soya, which is Tesco's own brand and it's about £1.18 a litre carton.

As far as a Thermos is concerned, then perhaps you could take a separate container for the milk, a bit of a faff I know keeping it cool in the summer.

I drink my tea black so not a problem for me!!

Goat's and sheep's milk, though not dairy, are still animal products as far as I'm concerned but if there is a dietician among us perhaps they can say whether it's the makeup of these products that makes them safe.

(I'm not a vegetarian, in fact I've just eaten a chicken curry, I just don't like milk in my tea.)

Anyway, here you are among us. We are a very friendly bunch of people, all prepared and willing to help with any queries you may have, on whatever aspect of Prostate cancer you may wonder about.

Nothing is off limits. We share experiences.

Sandra

On that basis, I would avoid animal milks and try the alternatives.

You will find that once you get used to them, cows milk becomes less palatable and even a bit sickly.

In saying that, if you use say almond on your cereal, surely a drop of cows milk in a cuppa would not harm, it depends how much you drink per day.

Remember to boost your calcium in other ways like broccoli etc.

Best wishes

Alison

I changed to soya milk several years ago and now prefer it in tea and coffee (decaffeinated). Only had it curdle on one occasion. I also have it on my fruit and fibre breakfast. I prefer the chilled Tescos or Morrisons own brand to Alpro for taste and value. I still indulge occasionally in cow based cheese though.

Futher comments: some soy milks are pre-sweetened, so look out for that.

I have also discovered that Aldi's soy milk (sweetened or non-sweetened) keeps for months without refrigeration, doesn't seem to curdle, and costs only 59p a litre. It's a bit on the watery side, but a useful standby to keep in the cupboard for use in cooking.

If you miss ice cream, there's a dairy free version called Swedish Glace (Sainsbury's stock it) which is very nice indeed.

Although Tony has gone dairy-free, I haven't, but my dairy intake has gone down. My cholesterol is down a bit too, so it's probably doing me good to eat less cheese and butter.

I assume the Aldi soya milk mentioned is the long life one which is also available at major supermarkets at a lower price than their chilled variety. Personally, I prefer the chilled variety but people need to sample different ones and decide for themselves.

Guys I realise that too much red meat is not good for you along with all dairy products.

I was just wondering about fish, is this good for you or is this also regarded as adding and abetting cancer.

sandy

I've read the Jane Plant book and I've also read Patrick Walsh's book - Surviving Prostate Cancer. I have also googled myself senseless!!

I have decided to do a limited take up of much of the advice. I have slashed my cheese consumption (it was pretty heavy if I'm honest) and I am using soya and almond milks on cereal. I can do this but not keen on either in tea or coffee. I tend to use Coffee Mate in coffee but there's milk in there as well - it gets everywhere.

I'm also doing the pomegranate juice daily and I am substituting at least 2 of my cups of tea for green tea. Twinings have lots of different flavours and I am trying them all out. Done Lemon (OK) and Ginger (a bit hot but OK with just a smidge of honey) and will soon be starting the cranberry flavour.

Red meat, if I'm honest, was not really a biggie for me - we tend to eat it once a week at the most. Processed meats a different matter. I have eliminated them. I might have the odd rasher of bacon but no more than once a month.

Will it work? Well I do find the argument that south east Asian men have less PCA than us in the West quite significant so I do give some credence to the argument that the Western diet must be a factor.

But at the end of the day, it will be conventional treatments that get us out of the mire (hopefully). I just hope to help myself by being as fit as I can be and eliminating some of my excesses!

Hi Guys,

Sandy is correct to emphasise Green Tea, the ethos behind Dr Jane Plant's diet is that the Chinese and Japanese don't get prostate cancer, because traditionally they have a dairy free diet and because drink lots of green tea.

So rather than look for substitutes to put in conventional black tea a better idea is to change to green tea, this takes some doing but once you have made the change, as I did some years ago, your taste buds change and the thought of ordinary tea with milk and perhaps sugar in it, is something that turns my stomach.  Once you are used to it Green tea is a far more energising and fresh tasting pick me up.

But for those who don't enjoy Green tea, there is POMI-T, a dietary substitute, designed for prostate cancer sufferers by British Doctors, it contains all the good stuff from pomegranites, broccoli, turmeric and green tea, all condensed into a tablet to be taken twice daily.  

You can order it on line, just put POMI-T into your search engine.

:)

Dave