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Worried and scared

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Posted 12 Jun 2016 at 21:48
Hi Gary,

In my book that appointment was really not acceptable it makes my blood boil when some one with Cancer is treated poorly (it certainly is not how the adverts lead us to believe)

Trevor's first appointment with an oncologist to get his results from bone and MRI scans was nothing short of disgusting this was at Addenbrooks ( I am quite happy to name and shame). We were left in a seperate room for over 40 mins ( time ticks very slowly ) waiting for the oncologist. He was very distracted flipping through Trevor's notes like he had only just been handed them, he with a very deadpan face proceeded to tell us Yes it is PCa , incurable, bone scan was pretty shocking, PSA was extremely high, NO you are not eligible for trials and his exact words were there isn't much we can offer you, he then sat back and said "any questions" . We were just numb and obviously couldn't even think of any questions .

A very good friend of mine (who has herself now passed with cancer ) took up the baton and complained to the head of oncology at Addenbrooks, she told them that I was contemplating suicide ( ok over the top ) but do you no what it worked and the head of dept phoned the very next day and the oncologist himself also phoned to apologise. We have now moved to Peterborough and are very happy with our treatment and oncologist .

Sometimes they forget how there actions and words affect us , complain, complain , complain don't accept anything but the best this is your life they are dealing with.

BFN

Julie X

NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON
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Posted 12 Jun 2016 at 22:27
Hi Gary, sorry you have been badly treated.

I had early chemo T4 n1m1a, in my lymphs around my body but nowhere else.

I also had radiotherapy, just 6 blasts , once a week for 6 weeks last June. I asked onco why 6 and not loads as everyone else's seems to have loads and he said the 6 were to frazzle my prostate as there is " some evidence" that even after spread it is a good idea to kill off 'the mother ship". I was given a list of all the side effects, a year on I have radiation proctitis so I bleed a bit from behind but nothing grim, I had a colonoscopy yesterday at my insistance as I wanted to make sure it was only proctitis and nit a spread higher up which they did after I made a fuss as I don't think they saw the point. Anyway that was clear, a waste of time I guess but reassuring for me.

I dont know what the chances are of all the dude effects but the key question to me is what difference will the RT make? If the onco can justify why maybe that outweighs the risks if however the onco thinks it will have little positive effect then it's your call but with resources tight I don't understand why they would give you RT unless there was a probsble benefit that outweighs the possible side effects?

I see in your earlier posts you were running, I hope you still do, I have not stopped although it is harder and I do get more joint pain however no idea if that's the drugs or the cancer or just over use!

Dream like you have forever, live like you only have today Avatar is me doing the 600 mile Camino de Santiago May 2019

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Posted 13 Jun 2016 at 14:09
Dear Gary

I understand that they can treat the suspect lymph nodes with radiotherapy if they are in the abdominal region.

I have forgotten the term that was used, but it was the lymph node system that runs around the prostate and upwards.

My OH was G7 N1 M0 and had the full 37 sessions including the lymphatic system in that area on an IMRT machine ( although I believe there is a more accurate and advanced machine now).

I think it's definately worth considering especially considering your young age.

Apologies that this is brief....I am on the hop.

ATB

Alison

Edited by member 13 Jun 2016 at 14:14  | Reason: Not specified

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Posted 05 Oct 2016 at 16:04

Thank you for all your replies , been away from the site for a while .... I did see my oncologist and she was fully aware of my disaster of an appointment with the radiologist . She agreed that his wording wasn't good but I'm still not sure what to do ...
My head thinks go with what the doctors said is right for you to leave it alone until things change ,my psa starts to rise .....I been feeling really good , not been to tired and sleeping well ,hot flushes but controllable .. Last p.s.a was 0.18 slightly up from 0.15 but onclologist said after Chen can rise a little bit . All eyes on the 18th October to see where I am .

I was thinknig of getting a second opinion , have researched a radiologist in London who specialise in advanced PCs . Would I just book a private appointment with him .. WouLd I need my scans to bring with me and would the hospital give them to me

User
Posted 05 Oct 2016 at 17:19

I'm pretty sure you are entitled to ask for a second opinion and I don't see why your scans should be refused you. The only fly in the ointment I can see is would it all be organised for 18th October.
I also wonder whether (even though it is private) you will still need a referral letter from your consultant.

If you are happy to pay for a private appointment, then I would ring your consultant's secretary and ask what the procedure is for obtaining the scans (and a referral letter if that's necessary)

*******

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Posted 05 Oct 2016 at 17:51

I think you are extremely rare. Chemo is usually given to men with incurable PCa, 35 sessions of RT is a curative treatment plan usually only offered to men with a chance of cure so to be offered both is odd. It might be that the RT was being offered as part of a trial in which case a second opinion is not necessarily going to help as another hospital may not have the same trial going, and private health can't often buy men places on trials.

It might be more useful to clarify why you were offered both - what do they think the benefit would be to you of having a curative treatment after chemo? If it is part of a trial, a conversation with the trial nurses might be more helpful than the horrible specialist :-(

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 05 Oct 2016 at 18:27

Yes Lyn , it would be part of a trial ,the radiologist said that it would not cure me to have the RT but may help .....but it's still in a trial so cannot confirm the benefits ......

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Posted 28 May 2018 at 08:22

It has been some time since I've posted ,

life has been good , I have become a father .....the wonders of science a baby girl born on 16th feb

Two  days before my wife had her we were in hospital seeing oncologist,so only right all three of us made it back for the next review at 12 weeks ,

my psa is now at 1 

its doubled and a bit more  from 0.41 in 9 months ,oncol is happy and in Aug I will be 3 years from diagnosis 

im not sure what where I will go from here but eeping fit and healthy ,I am hoping to completely the London pru for prostate cancer in July and raise as much as I can , still playing football twice a week and changing nappies inbetween

 

once again thank you for all your help in my dark early days ,

User
Posted 28 May 2018 at 10:35
I think you forgot to mention that you got married at some point in the last couple of years? Congratulations!

At what point did you have some sperm frozen, and was this at the specialist’s suggestion or did you have to push for it? I think this will be very useful for other members in the future.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 28 May 2018 at 10:47

Congratulations on you baby and good luck for the future.

 

barbara

 

User
Posted 28 May 2018 at 13:00
Thank you ,

I did get married December 2016, 😍

When I seen the specialist he told me to straight away before starting hormone treatment . It was all very rushed as I banked three lots of sperm between Monday and Friday of the same week and on leaving the hospital took my first tablet , I took tablets first and them had the first hormone injection and a 10 day holiday and returned for chemo ....looking back it was a mad few weeks , find out you have cancer , put off having children to suddenly praying that the small amount you produce in that room is enough to make a baby .

I thought I've got cancer and I need to start treatment asap ,My then girlfriend now wife's mother had died of bile duct cancer within 6 weeks , so the speed at which we did everything was due to the fact I thought I was gonna die within weeks ......

We always thought we had three chances ,but someone clever had split the samples so it gave us " 6 " go's ," we just filled in the forms and prayed .

It was our second attempt when we stuck gold ...looking back the first attempt was just after chemo and our lives were still coming to terms with my diagnosis

I guess maybe my advice would be to take a few weeks in banking your sperm ,as once treatment starts there is no going back . I am so lucky it worked as if we had not we would have settled for not having a family and regretted our speediness .

User
Posted 28 May 2018 at 18:42
Congratulations on your marriage and birth of your child. I hope things continue to go well.

Ido4

User
Posted 28 May 2018 at 19:26
Bless you !
User
Posted 28 May 2018 at 20:28
lovely to read this.

atb

dave

All we can do - is do all that we can.

So, do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)

I am the statistic.

User
Posted 28 May 2018 at 20:48

What a great post. It sounds as though you have been very level headed in your approach to your diagnosis and treatment and I am so pleased at the way things have worked out for all three of you. Many congratulations.

Kevan 

User
Posted 28 May 2018 at 23:50
How lovely - congratulations :-)
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 28 Jun 2021 at 20:33
It’s been a while

I come back to this forum for advice and help ,

My PSA has risen from 11 in January to 20 in may , ,so a doubling time of 5 months I was quite shocked , I had my scan all repeated in March 2021 and nothing has changed since diagnosis in 2015 . ( I was diagnosed with lymph node involvement ) but it’s not showing on my scan but my PSA is rising . The oncologist has given me two choices . I’ve chosen casodex 50mg a day to take with my 12 weekly injection .

I’m having a liver test done next week to make sure all is ok

I’m feeling more tired and quite depressed about the whole thing .

Any advice I would be grateful

User
Posted 28 Jun 2021 at 23:19
What was the other choice? Did you ever have RT?
User
Posted 29 Sep 2021 at 19:44
Hi , I am now in hospital with acute kidney failure.

I have been going to the toilet 6/7 times a night and after rebooking my oncologist meeting to Tuesday , I was called Tuesday night to say my blood test have come back and all is not well .

After an ultrasound it showed that after going to the toilet my bladder is holding about a litre of water .my prostate is enlarged and obstructing my urine causing my kidney.

User
Posted 29 Sep 2021 at 22:14

So sorry to read this. What is the treatment plan for you?

 

Ido4

 
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