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How your GP is paid to stop you going to hospital

User
Posted 02 Oct 2015 at 09:11

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/11904082/How-your-GP-is-paid-to-stop-you-going-to-hospital.html

Roy

User
Posted 02 Oct 2015 at 11:10

This makes me want to slap a Tory Health Minister, firstly early diagnosis means longer survivals and secondly longer survivals means more tax years.

I spent many years as an insurer, we used to insure companies' loss of profits following other insured events ie fire, flood etc. This is called consequential loss. The NHS is not a run for profit business and so will not incur consequential losses but there IS consequential profits, it's just that the NHS doesn't see them. 8 years ago I had a life saving bypass without which a further 8 years (& counting) of income, capital gains and value added taxes (& of course NI contributions) would not have been collected.

 

User
Posted 02 Oct 2015 at 20:32

Roy

This has been going on for years 1997 if my memory serves me well

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/3223309/Doctors-paid-thousands-not-to-send-patients-to-hospital-for-treatment.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/3223309

Edited by member 02 Oct 2015 at 20:38  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 02 Oct 2015 at 20:51
Those who voted blue should really now be questioning their judgment. The not so NICE party.

End of political rant.

User
Posted 02 Oct 2015 at 23:48

Isn't it a few ccg's that are adopting this rather than it being a Government initiative? Part of the answer is to provide even more cash, better equipment and more and better trained staff in the NHS. The NHS is funded by UK taxes so other departments /civil service etc would have to be further squeezed to facilitate this or people would have to pay more tax or a combination of both. Another option would be to gradually replace the NHS with a system that works well in some of the mainland European Countries but this would prove difficult for many UK citizens to accept, especially those who have no experience of medical services abroad or don't understand how these systems work and therefore would prefer to stay with the good in part NHS In replies to the article in the Telegraph, one expat described how well the system works in Belgium and I know from experience and talking with people in Germany that the system works well there too.

Barry
User
Posted 02 Oct 2015 at 23:56

Yes it is a handful of GP-led CCGs. The NHS and Department of Health have both warned the relevant CCGs to re-think. I see that politicians on all sides are condemning the practice

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

 
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