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Posted 08 Nov 2015 at 12:19

My husband has recently been diagnosed with advanced prostate PSA Gleason 9.He is 65, fit very active, and devastated, we both are.Very late diagnosis from GP,  she found out through  self funding a scan as PSA was 8.5 Now on hormone for 4 months.... 

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Posted 09 Nov 2015 at 00:45

Thanks Andy, Sadly we are not really able to change GP's, we live very rurally, and have limited choices. I have written to our GP's letting them know how we feel. Pointing out we are not going to take out a complaint, but we do want to ensure he gets the best treatment available, and their support to access it.I hope this is the best way forward.Taking out a compliant won't change his condition, but working with the practice to bring 'em into 21st century might help us and other patients and professionals.

Our practice does not take email, only post or calls, but I have overcome this after some assertive discussion. We can now email letters and questions to the practice... well its a start.

Thanks for all the help and advice.

 

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Posted 10 Nov 2015 at 23:57

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Thanks Andy, Sadly we are not really able to change GP's, we live very rurally, and have limited choices. I have written to our GP's letting them know how we feel. Pointing out we are not going to take out a complaint, but we do want to ensure he gets the best treatment available, and their support to access it.I hope this is the best way forward.Taking out a compliant won't change his condition, but working with the practice to bring 'em into 21st century might help us and other patients and professionals.

Our practice does not take email, only post or calls, but I have overcome this after some assertive discussion. We can now email letters and questions to the practice... well its a start.

Thanks for all the help and advice.

Just to say how much I like your approach - let's hope that other men in your area get a better, more knowledgeable response from the GPs as a result

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 21 Dec 2015 at 23:22
That's good news Ricky

I hope you continue to do well. My dad has a great quality of life., and has done for 15 years. Hopefully many more to come. He certainly hasn't shown any sign of being unwell.

Keep smiling

Louise

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Posted 08 Nov 2015 at 12:19

My husband has recently been diagnosed with advanced prostate PSA Gleason 9.He is 65, fit very active, and devastated, we both are.Very late diagnosis from GP,  she found out through  self funding a scan as PSA was 8.5 Now on hormone for 4 months.... 

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Posted 10 Nov 2015 at 21:38

Hi Louise, 

Thank you for your post, it has really reassured me. We see little point in taking out a complaint, but we do want the practice to recognise they could have acted earlier. I hope my husband gets the best treatment he can from now on..

Thanks again Leila x

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Posted 12 Nov 2015 at 08:21

Thank you, we discussed the option of complaints, and decided it was better for all if we tried to look at compassion and change.
Leila.

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Posted 08 Nov 2015 at 19:45

Hi Leila, you say your husband has been diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer, I assume the consultant has said that the scan showed there was spread out of the prostate in that case. Did you not get any opportunity to discuss all this with a specialist oncologist nurse,they are generally very helpful and can ring them to ask advice etc. Also there is a lot of info you can send for on this site, the tool kit it is called. I am fairly new on the site,my husband was diagnosed in 2012 at 68 and was on active surveillance for over 2 years,but now needing treatment as his grade has gone up. There are a lot of people with a lot of knowledge on this forum and I hope some of them will answer you soon,as it can be a very lonely place for you and your husband. Hope you soon get some well needed support.

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Posted 08 Nov 2015 at 20:24

hi leila

we understand you will be devastated, is the cancer contained or has it spread out of the prostate, have you not be offered a biopsy to determine the Gleason score, this will help determine what the grading is of the cancer, this may lead on to having scans

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Posted 08 Nov 2015 at 20:50

Thanks for the kind responses, his Gleason score is 9. It has spread to the vesicles on one side. He has had a bone scan, and it has not spread further, but my reading tells me Gleason 9 is very aggressive. He found all this out as he paid for a social scan himself.We have not been offered any specialist nurse support to date. He has not really digested the information enough to ask for specialist help, he seems to have confidence in the medics he has consulted.... From my reading it seems our GP was very late in suggesting a referral to a urologist, if fact he had the scan before the GP made a move, it was the results sent by us to the practice that motivated them. Is this a common story?

 

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Posted 08 Nov 2015 at 21:16

Hi Leila welcome to our site. I Find it so frustrating that we keep hearing of a GP playing lip service to men with a elevated psa results or not even doing the test when someone is presenting symptoms I would change GP When is his next appointment , has he been told his options . all the best Andy

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Posted 08 Nov 2015 at 21:41

Leila

Tried Links to no avail

You need to go to publications and read the difference between locally advanced and advanced. You OH seems to be in the former

Ray

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Posted 09 Nov 2015 at 00:45

Thanks Andy, Sadly we are not really able to change GP's, we live very rurally, and have limited choices. I have written to our GP's letting them know how we feel. Pointing out we are not going to take out a complaint, but we do want to ensure he gets the best treatment available, and their support to access it.I hope this is the best way forward.Taking out a compliant won't change his condition, but working with the practice to bring 'em into 21st century might help us and other patients and professionals.

Our practice does not take email, only post or calls, but I have overcome this after some assertive discussion. We can now email letters and questions to the practice... well its a start.

Thanks for all the help and advice.

 

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Posted 10 Nov 2015 at 16:08

It might be worth looking at the NICE guidelines to give you some guidance at to what you ARE ENTITLED TO EXPECT. Rising psa should be automatic referral, then biopsy if that's cler and it still rises you should get an MRI scan.   It will also give you guidance on your expectations now he has been diagnosed and knowledge is a great starting pint on a long journey. Good luck and pick the brains of the many on this site, they have years of experience and you don't feel lost in the maze of information and decisions.

http://www.nice.org.uk/Guidance/CG58

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Posted 10 Nov 2015 at 19:34

Thank you Susan99, I will.

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Posted 10 Nov 2015 at 20:37
Hello leila

We had a similar experience with our gp. He sat on a well man check psa result of 6.7 for ten months, and only repeated the test when my husband attended for something completely unrelated. When the second result came back at 9.2, he said he wasn't worried, and suggested we could watch and wait if we wanted. As my father had already had Pca, I knew to say no to this!! Fortunate as my oh had a Gleason on 9. However, post op, he's gone out of his way to help- he has prescribed whatever we've requested.

With regard to your diagnosis. It's very similar to my fathers. He was diagnosed at 61, Gleason 7, psa 38, spread to seminal vesicles, no bone spread. Fourteen years on, he's just celebrated his 75th, and is well. He had RT, followed by HT. His psa is still 0.5, he has a bone scan every year and it's still clear. At his last appointment, his doctor said that it was unlikely he would die from Pca. There is plenty of light in the tunnel.

Louise x

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Posted 10 Nov 2015 at 21:38

Hi Louise, 

Thank you for your post, it has really reassured me. We see little point in taking out a complaint, but we do want the practice to recognise they could have acted earlier. I hope my husband gets the best treatment he can from now on..

Thanks again Leila x

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Posted 10 Nov 2015 at 23:57

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Thanks Andy, Sadly we are not really able to change GP's, we live very rurally, and have limited choices. I have written to our GP's letting them know how we feel. Pointing out we are not going to take out a complaint, but we do want to ensure he gets the best treatment available, and their support to access it.I hope this is the best way forward.Taking out a compliant won't change his condition, but working with the practice to bring 'em into 21st century might help us and other patients and professionals.

Our practice does not take email, only post or calls, but I have overcome this after some assertive discussion. We can now email letters and questions to the practice... well its a start.

Thanks for all the help and advice.

Just to say how much I like your approach - let's hope that other men in your area get a better, more knowledgeable response from the GPs as a result

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 12 Nov 2015 at 08:21

Thank you, we discussed the option of complaints, and decided it was better for all if we tried to look at compassion and change.
Leila.

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Posted 21 Dec 2015 at 22:28

Hi Louise

Your remarks about your dad have really encouraged me. I was diagnosed with locally advanced cancer in February this year. PSA was 41.7, with spread to right hand seminal vesicle, and Gleason score of 4+3. I am on hormone therapy for two and half years and have had 39 sessions of radiotherapy. My latest PSA was 0.4, but hopefully it will come down further.

                                                           Best wishes

                                                                          Richard

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Posted 21 Dec 2015 at 23:22
That's good news Ricky

I hope you continue to do well. My dad has a great quality of life., and has done for 15 years. Hopefully many more to come. He certainly hasn't shown any sign of being unwell.

Keep smiling

Louise

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Posted 22 Dec 2015 at 23:04

Many thanks Louise. Will keep smiling.

                                          Kind Regards

                                                       Richard

 
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