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User
Posted 23 Nov 2015 at 01:26

Hi Guys,

Over the years I have read a lot on here about cranberry juice, to some extent I was rather sceptical, especially as the consensensus seemed to be that we need 100% pure cranberry juice, available only from specialist health food shops as opposed to the cranberry 'Juice Drink' widely available in supermarkets?

However on Friday, I treated myself to a pack of fresh cranberries available as a Christmas special at my local supermarket.

I cooked themfor a few minutes with a little water, but no sugar, and have been eating a few with my meals.

I have to say they seem to be making a difference.

It would seem that I have been sufferring from post-radiotherapy cystitus, not formally diagnosed as such, but I have all the symptoms, blood in urine etc, and the last couple of days I think it is less painful to urinate and my flow is less erratic.

I merely mention this because for the next few weeks the fresh cranberries are easily obtainable at the supermarkets and I for one intend to buy a few packs while I can get them and stock up the freezer.

What are your thoughts, do they really help or am I imagining it?

:)

Dave

User
Posted 23 Nov 2015 at 11:22
Dave

I do not think you are imagining it. You are also correct in saying the juice generally bought in supermarkets is not a working substitute.

Cistitis is a really unpleasant problem that sometimes also requires a visit to the doctor's surgery as it can take prescription medication to clear it fully.

Cranberries do seem to alleviate symptoms, another useful soother is to drink two level teaspoons of Bicarbonate of soda dissolved in a little cold water morning and night. This helps to neutralise the acid that causes the horrible burning sensation when you pee.

best wishes

xx

Mo

User
Posted 23 Nov 2015 at 14:53

Hi Dave,

Good that you have found this has helped and a natural product too. When I attended a specialist urinary clinic some years ago cranberries/juice was one of the recommendations.

Barry
User
Posted 23 Nov 2015 at 16:34

You can also buy dried cranberries in health food shops. They usually have some sugar added to counteract their sharpness, but otherwise I expect they'd help, eaten with cereal or whatever.
Marje

User
Posted 23 Nov 2015 at 23:21

Ladies with cystitis have been drinking cranberry juice for years and quite a few of the pharmaceutical remedies include cranberries. I think it is supported by actual science rather than just a food fad.

Cranberries are also known to soothe irritation of the bladder lining (which causes some people frequency) so the hospital told John it was esential to drink plenty of it during his RT.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 24 Nov 2015 at 12:42

Hi Guys,

I am not 'showing off' but yesterday I was in Waitrose, the posh supermarket, and noticed that they have frozen cranberries in their freezer section, looks like they stock them year round, so getting real cranberries rather than juice drink might be easier than I thought.

On the subject of 'treatment', I have a routine appointment with my Consultant next week, I am just hoping that the cranberries might do the trick, for I am fearful he may recomend letting the surgeons loose on my plumbing, and any amount of cranberries has got to be better than that?

:)

Dave

User
Posted 24 Nov 2015 at 12:45
Hi Dave. Although I've known of the benefits of cranberry juice from several years ago when helping nurse my late father who was permanently catheterised and prone to infections, I now find myself in the same boat albeit temporarely and your post and ensuing discussion has given me food for thought.

I'll get my other half to keep a look out for fresh cranberries and give your method a go. Anything that can help avoid antibiotics has got to be a good thing!

Edited by member 24 Nov 2015 at 12:46  | Reason: Not specified

Roger
User
Posted 27 Nov 2015 at 11:36

Just come back with a box of fresh cranberries which our Tesco had reduced to half price (50p) because they had a sell-by-date of today. Bit odd, as I understand they can be stored for months in the fridge... Now working out what to do with them as it seems eating them raw is not a pleasant experience, lightly boiling as Dave suggests then adding them to my cornflakes seems the best option. Not that I have cystitis, or at least all the tests for that come negative, but certainly found the flow was better while having a glass of juice in the mornings.

User
Posted 27 Nov 2015 at 17:41

That's why pure cranberry juice is seldom seen - the berries are quite sharp and astringent. It is more palatable as a "drink" mixed with other juices and sugar or sweeteners, but then of course it's more dilute.
Marje

User
Posted 28 Nov 2015 at 11:12

Hi Guys,

Throughout the autumn we have lots of apples, so I tend to eat a bowlful of cooked apple every day, and I just mix a couple of spoonsful of cranberries in with the apple.

I am into healthy eating at the moment, so cooking is easy for apples and/or cranberries, just put a little water in the bottom of a sausepan, fill it with sliced apples and carnberries bring to boil then simmer for 10 minutes.

Resultant mixture is as easy to chew as yogurt, has no added sugar or anything, and seems to be doing me some good?

:)

Dave  

 

User
Posted 03 Dec 2015 at 18:18

I understood that the cranberry juice in Tetra Paks from the supermarket isn't up to much, but what about cranberry supplements? Any opinions on those?

Pierre

Edited by member 03 Dec 2015 at 18:45  | Reason: Not specified


User
Posted 21 Jan 2016 at 21:01

Hi Guys,

Just a post-script to the Christmas cranberry extravaganza, I have today eaten the last of the fresh cranberries I bought while they were in the shops over Christmas.

I have been having a portion just about every day since I started this string and I must say they seem to have made a difference.

I am urinating less, it is now pain free with no stinging sensation, the urge to urinate is less intense, so all in all I think it is one problem I have managed to conquer.

Whether this is due to the radiation cystitis running its course, or Tamsulosin, or cranberries is of course debatable, but I would like to think the berries helped, and even if they didn't, they didn't do me any harm.

So I am looking forward to the spring, when my hormone therapy eases off, with new vigour and far better control of my waterworks.

:)

Dave 

User
Posted 22 Jan 2016 at 09:02

Well I am just coming to the end of my last batch of fresh cranberries and I notice they are no longer on the shelf at my local Tesco (but they do have sweetened dried ones). Whether they, or the juice I also had at times, had an effect I don't know but they are quite nice with my cornflakes.

Had my first session of radiotherapy yesterday, all well at the moment. They were running an hour late so hope this is not a sign of what is to follow. Waterworks side effects is certainly something I am concerned with and discussed this yesterday with the clinic nurse as well as possibly taking the tamsulosin later in the day to stop the night visits - not convinced on that, and the time when I do want good flow is at clinic times in the afternoon which I would probably lose if I took it in the evening. I will soon lose interest in drinking water out of their fountain...

User
Posted 22 Jan 2016 at 09:28
Dave

I often found that the treatment ran late - machine breakdowns/late start ups etc. The team were very good and didn't tell us to drink the water until an appropriate time before our session. I took the advice of others and didn't take the water from the drinking fountain as it was too cold and took a bottle from home each day.

Hope the treatment goes well

Arthur

User
Posted 22 Jan 2016 at 17:32

John had the first appointment almost every morning - we were able to block book all the sessions at the very start - so never had problems with late running. The exception was Wednesday's when he had 9am or 9.30 slot and saw the consultant afterwards for a weekly review. Do you have any flexibility on appointment times?

(PS before I cause pandemonium, I do realise that a lot of men don't get to see the consultant at all during RT, let alone weekly 😕 )

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 22 Jan 2016 at 17:44

My appointments are done on a week to week basis, I have just received next week's schedule. Seems we can't book the whole lot at once or specify a preferred time. Next week I have a couple of very early ones, 8.55, the rest early afternoon. Saw the consultant lady yesterday, that will be every Thursday, the day when she calls at our clinic.

User
Posted 22 Jan 2016 at 18:10

I was given a complete schedule of the times at the outset for each of the 37 fractions I received. There were some alterations to this along the way for routine maintenance but mostly it ran to time.
The times were staggered for each day. Not sure why this was but it meant that you did not always see the same patients all the time ( mixed blessing!). In fact I befriended another patient and I rang him earlier today. We meet up about every 2 months or so. They also made sure that you never had the same radiographers each time. I guess they dont want you to become too 'attached ' . My radiographers were on 3 monthly rotations between East Surrey where I had my treatment and Guildford ( being the main centre).
Sadly this meant that my last sessions were with staff I barely knew.
The machine broke down on me after the first rotation on one occasion and I was asked if I could stay on the table whilst they fixed it. I said no because I knew I couldn't hold my bladder for an undisclosed time! In fact it took over an hour to fix.
When I started again I had to go through the rigmarole of my name date of birth etc.

What was so annoying was that the centre had only opened 3 months before and the machines were new.

All my reviews were with the Radiographer Review team. They were brilliant.

Anyway , good luck and keep us posted.

User
Posted 23 Jan 2016 at 09:38

 

My sessions were staggered randomly from a 7.00 arrival (inc preparation) to the last session which was about 7.pm in the evening. Although I only had a 50 mile round trip, I found it convenient on a couple off occasions when having a late session followed by a very early, to stay overnight in the local Travelodge.

 I can only assume it was to achieve fairness by spreading the inconvenience of some appointment times around.

I did ask whether the appointments were computer-generated but not so, all by hand. It must have been a tremendous task as it was a large and very busy  unit. Of the four linear accelerators, two were mainly, but not exclusively, used for prostate, and despite it being like an assembly line, it was a slick operation and the staff were excellent.

 

Dave

Not "Why Me?" but "Why Not Me"?
User
Posted 03 Feb 2016 at 21:01

This conversation has moved away from the original one about Cranberries and the interesting information on RT will be lost in due course, members not expecting to find it under the subject heading.

Barry
 
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