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Needle seeding/tracking(First post)

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Posted 30 Nov 2015 at 13:18

Hi everyone. Firstly apologies to those who are in a worse situation than me.

I have recently been diagnosed Gleason 3+3 after a biopsy.

However since the biopsy two weeks ago I have had back,chest rib bone pain and a bowel blockage.

I have read about needle 'seeding/tracking'after a perineal biopsy (I had 35 needles).

I'm not afraid to admit I'm terrified my cancer may have escaped from the prostate via the needle tracks and gone metastatic causing the bone and bowel pain?

Has anyone experienced this or have knowledge and if so could you give me the benefit of what you know?

 

Many thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

User
Posted 30 Nov 2015 at 14:32
Hi

Do not know much about needle screening

But would doubt that any spread would happen that fast

Have a word with the specalist nurses

They have loads of advise and

experiance

Regards

Nidge

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User
Posted 30 Nov 2015 at 15:37

Thanks Nidge I will.Also love to hear from anyone with knowledge /experience.read the internet and the subject is driving me mad.

User
Posted 30 Nov 2015 at 15:47

Yep the PCUK nurses or your own specialist nurse at your hospital ( preferably urgently ? ). I'm far from an expert but I doubt that spread or metasteses could happen that quickly. But it could be a pelvis area infection in need of extra antibiotics to the ones you are already on
Chris

User
Posted 30 Nov 2015 at 16:13

Thanks Chris.Appreciated.

JB.

User
Posted 30 Nov 2015 at 16:21

Hello jbc and welcome

Whilst there is a risk of needle tracking the incidents are apparently very very small. Having checked it out on the internet you are probably aware of the percentage.

The biopsy itself can cause infection and infection can give you weird and not so wonderful pain in places you wouldn't expect.

So.... you mention a bowel blockage. Was this an actual blockage that had to be removed or was it a case of severe constipation?

As far as the other pains are concerned, it's chicken and egg time.
Do you have pain as a direct result of the biopsy (ie infection - not to mention the actual physical discomfort that needles plunged into a very sensitive area will cause) or are they caused by stressing about the biopsy?

I agree with the others. Ask your specialist nurse or the nurses on this site for advice. They will have the experience to know whether you should be concerned.

I hope you feel better soon

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User
Posted 30 Nov 2015 at 21:29

Thanks Johsan.It was and is severe constipation that has gone on for a few weeks.I don't have an infection but when I walked out after the biopsy shoulders,back ribs all hurt but haven't calmed down.I have asked the nurses and they've been brilliantly re-assuring about needle tracking. Still have that nagging doubt though

User
Posted 30 Nov 2015 at 22:03

Some oncos don't even believe in needle tracking - I don't think there is any science to prove it. Even if it does exist, it couldn't possibly have caused cancer to spread to bone in two weeks - it is a physical impossibility. More likely to be tension - or your heart. Have you had your heart checked recently? Severe constipation needs checking too - see your GP as these things are unlikely to be linked to your biopsy.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 30 Nov 2015 at 23:42
Thanks Lyn. Great people on here. My blood pressure is very high and I've had heart palpitations. Lot of anxiety tension too. The fact it can't spread to bone quickly is deeply re assuring. Thanks JB
User
Posted 30 Nov 2015 at 23:51

I think that if you already have issues it is essential to get checked over by the GP - sometimes heart problems present as pain in the upper back, between the shoulder blades, instead of in the chest. My father-in-law had a major heart attack and didn't realise until months later because he hadn't had the classic symptom of pain in the chest and arm.

When you are diagnosed with one problem it is easy to put all symptoms and discomfort down to that thing but it is possible that your back and rib pain is unrelated.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 01 Dec 2015 at 00:40
I must admit I was thinking along the same lines. GP for me. Thanks again. Very kind
 
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