I managed a session in mid March, but then I contrived to tweak my back putting my jeans on at the start of April which meant I missed out on the subsequent extended period of onshore swell and offshore wind.
However I'm back cycling again now, so hopefully I'll be able test the water temperature of the North Atlantic again soon!
Jim
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I had another PSA test last week. A registrar I've not previously spoken to called today to inform me that the result shows a drop to 0.26 ug/L.
Since the oscillations seem to be stable rather than increasing he suggested going to a 4 month interval between tests. I didn't quibble!
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Really great news Jim. Just had a look through your profile, gives us all hope that a rising PSA doesn’t necessarily mean more treatment 👍
You’ve obviously been through a lot, hope you are also feeling well.
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Hi Elaine,
My apologies for my tardy reply.
Actually I rather feel that there are plenty of people here who have been through a lot more than me! In my conversation with my oncology nurse a few months ago I was assured that in some cases PSA readings can oscillate in the same region as mine for years on end. Long may it continue in my case!
More recently I was also called by the surgeon who performed my operation. He explained to me that whilst I may well have microscopic secondaries "the cancer factory" has been removed. I have no idea what rhyme or reason there may be to some people's PSA going ballistic in such circumstances, and others doing what mine is currently doing.
In more general terms my GP is currently anxious for me to go back on some of my heart meds. I was hoping to avoid that, but apparently my iron levels are slightly low and my blood pressure and cholesterol readings are not to his liking.
Jim
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No problem Jim.
Definitely long may it continue 👍
It’s really interesting to hear what the doctors have said, how it can just remain that way for such a long time. I’m hoping it would stop me from panicking if robs PSA rises (although I’m sure it won’t ha)
Robs GP has been wanting him to go on beta blockers for sometime because of fast heartbeat. I often think that it has been the HT that caused it, and now his testosterone is increasing he’s not getting them much at all….without any medication. Whether it’s coincidence I don’t know.
Hope you get sorted out soon with your cholesterol and BP 👍
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I unexpectedly had another PSA test today. I went for what I thought was going to be a BNP test. The nurse assembled three bottles, so I asked what they were all for. I only got an answer after all the bottles were full. At the first attempt, which is unusual for me!
"PSA, full blood count and BNP"
Whilst I await my unanticipated PSA results my GP's pharmacist has got me back on low doses of ramipril, bisoprolol and a new (to me) statin - Rosuvastatin. Hopefully my liver won't object to that one!
My resting heart rate is already in the target 55-60 BPM range, but apparently ramipril and bisoprolol both benefit the heart apart from their headline functions.
Jim
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Jonathan will no doubt be pleased to learn that I have recently managed a summer bodyboarding session.
I've also finally received the results of my last, albeit erroneous, PSA test. Up to a new peak of 0.39 ug/L. I'm told "it's nothing to worry about"!
I stuck with the statins until my most recent set of bloods, then I stopped taking them. They were turning me into a zombie. Over the last week two different people have assured me "You look well Jim". Obviously previously I didn't!
Jim
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This morning I received a call to book me in for another PSMA PET CT scan in Plymouth next Thursday. Which reminded me that I haven't been faithfully updating this diary!
My PSA had risen to 0.58 ug/L by the end of January. Post test I was called once again by a "GP interested in oncology". Once again I was assured that my current doubling time was nothing to worry about. "At this rate you're more likely to die with prostate cancer than of prostate cancer."
This time around I quibbled a bit. I was after all booked in for another scan in Autumn 2021 which never happened, and more recently the oncology nurse had told me that another scan was indicated if I had 2 consecutive increases in my PSA reading.
After some discussion with the oncologist in Truro I was informed that I'd been put on the waiting list for a scan.
To be continued....
Jim
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Hi Jim,
I've just read your profile and some of your posts. It's quite a story and an interesting set of psa results. My psa is slowly rising and had a jump and a drop.
I wondered if you're on the NHS or if you paid for a PSMA test at psa 0,09. The hospital I'm with said it would be 0.5 before they sent me for one. I might arrange to pay for one at about 0.14 thinking it might be a bit higher when I actually get it, if it gets that high. Although I know it might be a bit early.
I also notice your psa was at 0.1 for a long time then went to 0.2 and 0.3. Were they not measuring to two decimal places for a period as it seems odd for it to freeze at 0.1 then go to 0.2 and 0.3. My psa went to 0.1 this month and I'm now thinking of contacting the nurse to find out if it's to one decimal place. Typical it's Friday at 5pm when I read that so will wait until Monday.
I'd have thought they'd have given you RT before 0.5. There was recently discussion about whether some cases aren't detected by psma. Yet there are people on here whose psma scan detected a lesion not in the prostate bed so it's not clear which route is best.
Are you hoping the scan finds something or happy to wait longer? I'm pretty sure I'd want to find it. It's good that you appear in bright form. All the best Peter
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For info. I initially had brachytherapy in 2015 and was cancer 'free' until 2021 when my PSA started to rise again (6.87 Oct 2021).
In Dec 2021 I had a salvage RARP. Unfortunately 3 months afterwards PSA was 0.49 meaning that all the cancer hadn't been removed.
I've had 2 PSMA Scans since and my PSA in now 0.89 but they haven't been able to detect where the cancer is and they are waiting for it to rise to about 1.2 before giving me another PSA scan.
Initially they told me that they don't usually recommend a PSMA scan unless the PSA is at least 0.5 as below this they are often unable to detect where the cancer is.
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Hi Peter,
I'm on the NHS. No choice!
My previous consultant had previously worked at UCLH, which may have helped get me an appointment there when none were unavailable here in the wild and woolly West Country. Immediately post-op my PSA was quoted at < 0.03. Then it was quoted to 3 DPs. Then suddenly it went back to just 1 DP. I've no idea why I'm afraid.
If you read back through the thread, I found myself on a conveyor belt to SRT a while ago. However I decided to jump off it. Quoting my slightly younger self, "At our face to face meeting I pointed out to my new(ish) consultant that I was not of a mind to simply 'throw everything at it'".
My first consultant certainly seemed to hold the view that it's important to detect the location of supposed secondaries if at all possible. If there's something there outside the prostate bed I would definitely like to find it before being "zapped at random"!
Bear in mind that I'm a medical man of mystery. My first ever PSA test revealed a level of 131 ug/L, but I lived to tell a tale of "undetectable" for quite a while. Apart of course from that pesky 1 and bit mm +ve margin. Perhaps what's left pumps out far more PSA than "average"?
Jim
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Hi Zumerset,
I'm sorry to hear about your post salvage "relapse".
See just above for a bit more of my history. Perhaps these "magic numbers" depend upon where you're located, and perhaps they change with time? I have to admit that I have sometimes wondered if the thresholds have generally increased due to the Covid-19 pressures on the NHS?
Certainly nothing much has been detected at < 0.5 ug/L in my particular case.
Jim
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Alliance Medical Imaging just called, fortunately before I hit the road.
Production of the radioactive tracer "failed". I'm now booked in for next Wednesday afternoon instead.
Jim
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Jim , better luck for next time, it's annoying but not alot we can do.
Thanks Chris
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The second time did prove to be lucky Chris, apart from the abysmal weather yesterday afternoon here in soggy SW England.
My current consultant (or a member of his team) would like a chat in Truro at 9:20 on the 30th to discuss the results of my scan. Given the distance from here to there I think I'll try and arrange an alternative appointment.
Jim
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Shortly after my previous post we received a "no fault" Section 21 eviction notice. Since then I have been engaged in lots of frantic activity, and hence not endured any further treatment.
After an exhaustive search we luckily managed to locate a suitable property on the other side of the River Tamar from our previous abode. Then we had to move "house", including 2 businesses, two "bi-directional" electric vehicle charging stations and an artist's studio to somewhere with room for all of the above. Plus a car park big enough to hold aforementioned EV chargers and several cars/vans.
I had a video conversation with my latest oncologist last week, who fortunately has a very nice "bedside manner". Barring any further unanticipated contingencies the plan is for another PET scan in the New Year. Assuming that reveals nothing beyond the by now familiar glow on the scan from a (presumed) lymph node in my left pelvic sidewall, SABR PDQ is the order of the day.
My latest PSA reading is 1.47 ug/L
Jim
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Thanks for the update, good luck with your new place.. Good to hear SABR is becoming more routine in the UK
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The conclusion of the report on my most recent PSMA PET/CT scan stated that:
"Left pelvic sidewall activity is favoured to relate to the ureter, with good positional correlation noted with previous imaging display ureter. Allowing for this no metastatic disease identified."
My current consultant views this as "good news", and is now suggesting a more traditional 20 day course of radiotherapy. I am left wondering about the location of whatever it is that is causing my rising PSA readings. I've just had another PSA test, and I will hopefully find out the result tomorrow.
Jim
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Jim, did the scan show activity in the prostate bed or nothing at all.
Thanks Chris
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Hi Chris,
None of my by now numerous scans have revealed anything untoward going on in my prostate bed.
My latest PSA reading has fallen from 1.77 last time to 1.09 ug/L
Jim
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Jim , a PSMA scan at 1.4 revealed nothing for me, six months later the PSA was 6.something and multiple sites were found.
I would be asking for 3 month tests if you can get them.
Thanks Chris
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Thanks for the info Chris,
Actually I was offered 2 monthly PSA tests without having to ask. However the GPs here in North Devon recently decided to refuse to perform blood tests ordered by hospital consultants.
I was offered a last minute slot at a hastily arranged phlebotomy clinic at the local community hospital, and rushed over there this afternoon.
Now I have a hole in both arms and one in my left hand, including the remnants of a large "blood blister" inside my right elbow!
Jim
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Time flies when you're enjoying yourself? Here's a somewhat tardy update from yours truly!
I had another PSMA PET/CT scan in March of this year. The report took us back to square one:
"No uptake within the region of the prostatic bed. Intensely avid focus abutting the left pelvic sidewall with SUV max of 51.4. This is presumed due to nodal activity within a tiny node adjacent to the left ureter. No pathological uptake within the skeleton."
I met with my oncologist once again on Thursday. I enquired about a variety of potential "focal" treatments to the aforementioned "tiny node", but the post consultation letter assures me that "all of which would not be indicated in his situation".
I will be booked in for another scan in the near future to "ensure his disease remains confined to the pelvis."
I expect the subsequent MDT meeting will once again recommend 2 years of Relugolix in conjunction with 20 sessions of sRT. However, as the letter also points out, I still have "some concerns about external beam radiotherapy to the prostate bed with hormones due to the potential for side effects"
Jim
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Nice to hear from you Soul surfer! Was he able to explain why focal treatment was not suitable?
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Hi Jonathan,
Not in terms that made sense to me!
The argument seems to be that there must be microscopic mets hiding somewhere in my prostate bed or lymphatic system, even though numerous scans over 9 years have failed to find any of them. "Focal" treatment to one modest lymph node won't get all of them. The best chance of "curing" me is the aforementioned course of HT/sRT.
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Hi, Jim.
Your journey interests me. I'm almost four years since RARP, my PSA has remained undetectable. However, I'm still at high risk of recurrence and I like to keep abreast of how others facing it, deal with the problem.
Like you, I also have heart issues. I suffered a heart attack three years ago and had a couple of stents fitted. It's highly likely that more treatment may be needed.
During the last 8 years, Your PSA has risen fairly steadily from undetectable to about 2. It seems to flucuate quite a bit, is there any comfort in knowing, that wherever the rogues cells are, they appear idolent.
I'm more afraid of my heart seeing me off that cancer problems. I know it's a bit of a random question, but do you feel the same? Has dealing with another serious coexisting health problem, affected how you deal with PCa?
I apologise for slightly drifting off topic.
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Hi Adrian,
Long may your "undetectable" PSA continue!
In answer to your questions, yes & yes. My own PSA doubling time is a bit hard to determine given all the bouncing around of the numbers, but at least it doesn't seem to have gone "exponential" yet. It seems to me that zapping or surgically removing the only known cancer after 9 years would be a logical way forward, but the local MDT seem to disagree with my assessment.
I also raised the issue of my "comorbidity" with the oncologist last week. Not least because my most recent PCa scan also mentioned "Sternotomy and evidence of coronary artery bypass grafting with associated coronary artery calcification".
I cannot help but wonder whether my calcified coronary arteries or prostate cancer is likely to carry me off first? And whether the side effects of treatment for the latter might hasten the former?
The relevant probabilities are even harder to pin down than my PSA doubling time!
Jim
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Jim, this is Lola, a worried woman in Spain. Can I ask you something?
During the period after your Leo's job, when your PSA was gradually rising, but with some bouncing, were you on ADT or any other treatment or just monitoring your PSA?
My husband had a Gleason score of 3+4 (7) and his cancer came back four years after surgery.At 0.34 PSA he then had ADT and RTH. His PSA remained undetectable for two years, but now it’s started rising again.
His oncologist wants to wait until his PSA gets to 1.0 before doing a PSMA PET and then decide what to do. He’s now 78.
I really hope things go better for you, my husband and everyone in this supportive place.
All the best,
Lola
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Hello Lola,
Thanks for your good wishes, and I'm sorry to hear of your husband's recurrence. His path has been different to mine.
My first ever PSA test came back at 131 ug/L. Following the subsequent robotic prostatectomy I have had lots more PSA tests, several scans, but no additional "therapies" as yet. I had my first scan when my PSA had risen from "undetectable" to 0.1, but it revealed nothing. My PSA was well over 1 by the time a "a tiny node adjacent to the left ureter" was tentatively identified.
My current oncologist is keen to start me on ADT/sRT, but thus far I have resisted. I'm not very keen on the potential "side effects"!
Best wishes,
Jim
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Thanks a lot for your response, Jim. I can see you're fighting with no weapons other than your own power and courage, brave guy! May this continue to keep you strong.
Best,
Lola