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Unexplained Rapid Haemoglobin Decline

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Posted 21 May 2018 at 09:31
So good to hear you are feeling good again, George, and fingers crossed for tomorrow’s results.

Topping and tailing sounds unpleasant but if your main man wants it done, best get on with it. Hoping it will be over and done with soon.

Looking forward to seeing you at ‘The Mill’.

Take care, Janet, xx

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Posted 21 May 2018 at 11:19

Thank you all!

Lyn and Bill, I'm pleased to find someone who has had those procedures done recently.

It's nine years since I had a colonoscopy, and maybe things have improved a little in that time.

That procedure was painless, thanks to a sedative via canula in the back of my hand.
And yes, I watched the 'interesting journey' on the screen beside me. Fascinating!

However, the preparations in the two days beforehand were a nightmare. I still shudder about my 'Niagra Falls' incident on getiing out of bed on the morning of the appointment. I then had just an hour to run a bath, get ready and get to hospital on time.
I think I'll make sure this next one is an afternoon appointment,

That scan was OK, by the way, just a couple of benign cysts and some radiation damage were seen.

 

Frankly, it's the endoscopy that scares the hell out of me. How on earth can anyone have that done without sedation or a spray? They tell you to swallow, but surely that's a physical impossibility with a tube in your mouth.

Just try putting your knuckles between your top and bottom teeth and attempt to swallow.
Can't be done, I tell ya!

What's the secret? Total sedation?


'Curious George'

 

 

Edited by member 21 May 2018 at 11:20  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 21 May 2018 at 11:43

In my case they spayed some anaesthetic in first. Then the cosultant said try to swallow. You cant actually swallow but the action of trying opens up your throat. As I did that he inserted the endoscope. I remember having to concentrate on relaxing and then saying "hell was that it" it was so quick. I have a very strong\sensitive gag reflex and it really was still OK. Its hard to explain but I didnt actually get that reflex, maybe because something is actually in your throat rather than approaching it like you describe with your fingers in you mouth.

Good luck

Cheers

Bill

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Posted 21 May 2018 at 12:20

Thanks a million Bill. That's really helped.

I share that "very strong\sensitive gag reflex" and it was that which was worrying me.

I'm now more optimistic, and I'm sure I can stand a bit of pain. After all, Sunderland AFC have caused me a ton of pain these past few years!


Once again, THANK YOU.

George

User
Posted 21 May 2018 at 13:28
I have had an endoscopy (top) once and two colonoscopies with a further one to come.

I had the anaesthetic spray to the back of my throat for the endoscopy and as Bill has said this allows you to “swallow” the probe without too much fuss. In reality they had the endoscope down my throat so quickly I did don’t have time to react!

I found the turning of the endoscope in my tummy really weird and a bit uncomfortable but doable.

If I had it again I personally would opt for sedation, max dose please!

I had sedation for both colonoscopies, first time it meant I was really relaxed and hardly aware of what was happening.

I had my second colonoscopy four months after surgery and wasn’t sedated enough even to the point the nurse in the ward told me I seemed very awake for someone who has just been sedated.

The staff are wonderful and whilst it is not an enjoyable experience it passes relatively quickly and you get on with your life!

Ian

Ido4

User
Posted 21 May 2018 at 16:05

Thanks Ian,

Man, you have had a lot of 'oscopies' in a short time.

 

Funnily enough, I had been thinking about getting a sedative for the endoscopy. Now you've convinced me.

And yes, I'd say the same ....'Max dose please!'

 

Thanks for that Ian.

 

 

George

Edited by member 12 Jun 2018 at 15:30  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 21 May 2018 at 19:31

Hi George ,

I had one about six years ago, 

No sedation as I was on my own , 

They were really very good ,nurse told my just to do as I was asked 

The secret seemed to be breathing deep that keeps everything open.

 

Good luck

 

Barry

User
Posted 21 May 2018 at 19:50

Hi George

Had one last year with just throat spray. No prob. As Barry said really. For me just a bit boring so looked at screen a few times - interesting.

Good luck and keep winning.

Ray

User
Posted 12 Jun 2018 at 15:44
Hi Guys (and Goddesses)

It's now 12th June, and this is the calm before a load of appointments.

I've had haemoglobin tested twice since the last one 9th May, and it's steady but still on the low side.

Two weeks ago it was 100, and this week it's 98.

My GP says it can take 3 months for the Hb to build up to a decent level again. I do hope it gets back to the normal 130.

I'm having a CT scan next Tuesday and then seeing a gastroenterologist three days later to discuss whether I must have an endoscopy and /or colonoscopy.

I'll push for just the latter because it dawned on me that radiation damage was spotted on the last one in 2009.

I've never met this consultant before, but I see he's called Krishna.

Man, it will be agony trying to resist greeting him with "Good Morning Harry".

SEE YOU AT THE MILL 22nd/23rd JUNE.

Stay well my friends,

George

User
Posted 12 Jun 2018 at 18:42

Being topped and tailed by Krishna George now that could be interesting 😁

Thinking of you guys often and sending love .

BFN

Julie X

NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON
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Posted 12 Jun 2018 at 18:54
Hiya Julie,

GREAT to hear from you!

I think of you often too, and I'm sure all your old friends here do the same.

Keep that terrific sense of humour (the times you've made me splutter out a mouthful of tea......countless!!).

Sending you a huge 'Geordie Hug'.

George

x

User
Posted 12 Jun 2018 at 21:27

Thank you for the Gordie hug G it’s appreciated so straight back at you . 😁

BFN

Julie x

ps keep that Tea in a safe spot , I might just be back on form .🤪

NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON
User
Posted 23 Sep 2018 at 16:27

HI GUYS AND GODDESSES!

It's been a LONG time since I posted. It's all a bit of a blur, but I've just updated my profile, and you can see the full story.


Anyway.....Good news. My engine is ticking over again. Soon it will move from idling to gently accelerating.


After five months of very worrying (and even scary...a first for me!) ill health, I suddenly realised on Thursay night that I'd had a good day. Friday and Saturday were OK too, as is today. I'm not breathless and suffering dizzy spells all day anymore, just small episodes.


It's miraculous, and I’ve had absolutely no treatment.

 

I did see the consultant cardiologist (at last), on Fri 14th Sept. That was a full three months since the heart trouble was spotted on two scans. And the doctor was one of the good guys, I'm pleased to say.


He wasn’t keen to do any radical intervention, as there had been an improvement shown on my last echo cardiogram. And, believe it or not, he took me along (mid appointment) to have a third echo scan, and watched as the physiologist did the scanning.


When we went back into his office, he told me the fluid level had lowered again, and there was a good chance it would go away naturally. I'll be scanned again in a few months time ahead of seeing him next.


It seems all this has been caused by a severe chest infection back in April.

It hadn't completely cleared, and caused a gradual build up of fluid around the heart, to the point when I started feeling so weak.

 

Even more good news, he told me that my haemoglobin had finally risen to a normal level after plummeting from 130 to 70, and the blood transfusion that followed on 1st May.

It's taken a long time, but the doctor told me it was up to 124. I was, in football parlance,’ over the moon’.

Hey, speaking of football, perhaps it was Sunderland’s rapid drop down the divisions that set all this off.


Complete rest, no exertion at all and trying to keep stress and worry at bay have been the key to getting better.

i HATE to say this, but we have to remember we aren't young and fully fit these days. :cry: Trouble is, nobody can convince us of that. In our minds we are 19 (well I am!) and all too often we think we're supermen, We've been kidding ourselves.


I swear my recovery is down to the complete easing up on everything. No dashing here there and everywhere. Whenever I did try to over-exert myself, I paid the price for it.


Well, I'll finish now, with another motoring pun. I'm still here with engine idling, and feel like a learner driver, nervous and shaky about putting the accelerator down, BUT it will get pressed to the floor in the very near future!

I promise to be sensible. No more dashing about till I'm truly fit again.


Can't type quickly yet though (a bit dozy). I hear you all say "Nothing new there then"! :lol:


Stay well my friends, and remember, these glitches are sent to try us. Just get mad as hell and then plan your battle.

 

 

George

Edited by member 23 Sep 2018 at 16:28  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 24 Sep 2018 at 00:54
Well what great news George and as just one area of stress relief, I think your handing over arrangements for the Mill meet to PCUK was a sensible one.

Looking forward to seeing a rejuvenated George at the meet next year. Meanwhile, carry on doing things the same way which have worked so well

Barry
User
Posted 24 Sep 2018 at 03:30

What fab news - great to read

Clare

User
Posted 24 Sep 2018 at 08:03

Good to see you back, George, you’ve certainly been worrying us.

Time to put your renewed energies into remembering not to dash around so much and enjoy life again, you’ve had a tough few months.

Take care, Janet, x 

User
Posted 24 Sep 2018 at 11:13
Great news George, I’ve long been waiting to see that you are on the mend. Long may it continue.

Unfortunately I seem to be heading in the opposite direction.

Stu

User
Posted 24 Sep 2018 at 11:51
So Good to be back with you all, and thank you Barry, Janet and Stu.

Stu? Yes, I think you ARE being messed about.

I've just read your updates and I feel for you my 'not so old' mate.

Time to get a tad stroppy, and by that I mean being ever so polite but absolutely firm with the medics.

Situations like this happen so often too.

Being left in limbo for three months is unbearable. It's just not right.

Don't they realise the stress they put us through?

I couldn't get any information on the results of my two echocardiagrams done in July until I had a third one on 14th September.

As hard as I tried I could find out nothing till that day (when I finally met the cardiologist) after so long being worried sick about my symptoms.

I can understand your total frustrtation.You have lymph nodes to be dealt with and for God's sake shouldn't speedy treatment be a glaringly urgent action plan?

Hoping to hear you're brought out of the dark a,s,a,p.and looking forward to seeing an upbeat update from you soon.

Stay stubborn and defiant Stu, but keep smiling (even if through gritted teeth!).

All the very best,

George

User
Posted 24 Sep 2018 at 15:13
Thanks George,

They claim that the lymph node trouble in my neck is very unusual, and they are not convinced it’s to do with my Pca. Up until now I’ve had nothing but praise for the team that is looking after me. Things have always happened so fast. Hopefully the Pet Scan I’ve got coming up on Thursday will sort things out, an FDG scan is a first for me.

However I’m convinced that they will finish up zapping the darn thing, and they were at this point nearly 3 months ago. I’d even had an appointment all set to make a frame work so that I couldn’t move my head whilst in th RT scanner, which they canceled in lue of the biopsy.

Every change of idea just keeps adding more and more weeks.

Stu

User
Posted 24 Sep 2018 at 16:08
George

The man is back the PCa world is brighter. As I'm now 14 yrs past diagnosis you must be 13 yrs?

Keep going, keep as well as you can

Ray

 
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