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Posted 26 Aug 2018 at 20:34

Hi. I’ve got great support from my wonderful wife, family and amazing local PC support group, however, I still dont know anyone with my diagnosis, APC metastised to bones and lymph nodes. Everyone without exception has has localised and almost all has had surgery. I’m now on Zoladex hormone therapy and mid term chemo (docetaxal), totalling quite a lot of side effects. Prognosis not great. I was an avid ultra fell runner, can’t wait to get back to it but no chance at the mo. I desperately feel as though I have lost control of my body!!! Any positive comments would be welcomed from someone with a similar diagnosis. 

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Posted 27 Aug 2018 at 07:23

Hi Mark, sorry that you feel the way you do but understandable. I have not got APC in my bones but it has spread to distant Lymph's so similarish to you. Not a fab prognosis.


firstly, if you don’t want to read about those who are probably cureable with pca then you can filter what you read. I sometimes initially felt sorry for myself when reading those posts too but now I like to see others not on my path. It also inspires me to do what I can to get men tested earlier and raise awareness. Doing those things has brought me a huge sense of worth as an individual. One day everyone will not be on our path if we help make a difference.


as my “name” suggests, I run too. I have managed to keep going despite everything. I am off to Albania in 12 days to run 220k with 8000m of climb, have run so many ultra marathons and marathons since diagnosis and raised plus encouraged others to raise loads of money and awareness. Before I was ill I had only run 1 one day ultra marathon and a few marathons. If you want to see what is possible look at my website www.makethemostof.it  . Don’t get me wrong, it hurts, a lot sometimes, hip, knee, back, ankle will always be painful after a big race but that’s what cocodamol was invented for!!


we are not the only runners here. Tony still runs most days, has run marathons for the Pcuk and like me is putting himself out there to raise awareness and funds for the charity.


Yes I know that my life will be much shorter than I had hoped/expected but I am doing my best to have the time of my life, every single day. This morning, like every morning, I have a choice, spend my morning worrying about things I can’t change or do or plan something good I can. Feel free to pm me if you want as would be happy to chat.


Never give up.


kev

Dream like you have forever, live like you only have today Avatar is me doing the 600 mile Camino de Santiago May 2019

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Posted 26 Aug 2018 at 23:46

Hi Mark,


I am sorry that you find yourself in this position and you have been diagnosed with this horrible disease.


I think you will find many people on this site with a diagnosis similar to yourself, me included. My diagnosis was made just over three years ago and I have been on the rollercoaster ever since. But I am still going!


You are obviously a very fit man and that will help you a lot in coping with the various treatments along the way. Perhaps you should look up a member called "irun" who is also very fit and continues to run multiple marathons. I think he will be an inspiration to you.


Anything you want to know, just post on here and someone will answer you. There are a lot of informed and experienced people looking at this site and there is also a magnificent professional support system here too. You can speak one to one with the specialist nurses whenever you feel the need to. The number is at the top of the page.


Best wishes


Peter

User
Posted 27 Aug 2018 at 09:04
Click on my history to see my similar diagnosis and journey through hormones, Docetaxel, Cabazitaxel, and now Radium 223.
Keep the Faith
J.
User
Posted 27 Aug 2018 at 10:34

Hi Kev


Got back from my first run (just two miles)  this morning for four weeks, and checked my post, so encouraging.


I’d Read the PCUK ‘insight’ mag last week including the article on yourself, i was trying to find a way to contact you, unsuccessfully as I don’t do Facebook, so ist great to find you here. I’ll take up you offer to pm you later, thanks.


Ive checked out your website thanks, very informative and encouraging. Keep up the massive great work you do. I’d love to be able to make a small contribution in a similar manner in the near future, both re awareness through running, early diagnosis.


Im feeling so much more inspired already just through the responses today.


All the very best for the Albania epic, AWESOME!!!!!


Mark 🏃‍♂️

User
Posted 27 Aug 2018 at 12:12

Thanks Valley boy


As suggested  I checked out your history. Helpful and informative, a big pat on the back for your positivity, very  inspiring, Im so pleased to hear you are still managing golf etc while on treatment, fantastic! 


ive always disliked taking any form of medication, so accepting I need hormone, chemo and GCSF for now, Ive managed to only take painkillers and ibropofen for the first week after chemo due to painful side effacts from GCSF


Ill follow your motivating posts


I really appreciate your response


 


Mark

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Posted 23 Sep 2018 at 08:07
Hi Tony
Many thanks. I'll take you up on the offer to email.
You're diagnosis sounds very similar to my own. You are inspirational in what you are doing. In my head I've felt so very much better these last few weeks, inspired by the amazing guys at the PC Support Group at our local Blythe House Hospice, irun, yourself and a few others. I'm treating my chemo period as a I would a running injury, acknowledging it, a few very gentle short runs every three weeks, anticipating training after the chemo finishes and a few weeks recuperation - mid November. Can't wait to get out on the hills!
I agree with the awful side effects of the hormone treatment, but if they give me some extra time I'm very happy to live with them.
Long may your PSA not register.
Definitely living life to the full with cancer.
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Posted 26 Aug 2018 at 23:46

Hi Mark,


I am sorry that you find yourself in this position and you have been diagnosed with this horrible disease.


I think you will find many people on this site with a diagnosis similar to yourself, me included. My diagnosis was made just over three years ago and I have been on the rollercoaster ever since. But I am still going!


You are obviously a very fit man and that will help you a lot in coping with the various treatments along the way. Perhaps you should look up a member called "irun" who is also very fit and continues to run multiple marathons. I think he will be an inspiration to you.


Anything you want to know, just post on here and someone will answer you. There are a lot of informed and experienced people looking at this site and there is also a magnificent professional support system here too. You can speak one to one with the specialist nurses whenever you feel the need to. The number is at the top of the page.


Best wishes


Peter

User
Posted 27 Aug 2018 at 07:23

Hi Mark, sorry that you feel the way you do but understandable. I have not got APC in my bones but it has spread to distant Lymph's so similarish to you. Not a fab prognosis.


firstly, if you don’t want to read about those who are probably cureable with pca then you can filter what you read. I sometimes initially felt sorry for myself when reading those posts too but now I like to see others not on my path. It also inspires me to do what I can to get men tested earlier and raise awareness. Doing those things has brought me a huge sense of worth as an individual. One day everyone will not be on our path if we help make a difference.


as my “name” suggests, I run too. I have managed to keep going despite everything. I am off to Albania in 12 days to run 220k with 8000m of climb, have run so many ultra marathons and marathons since diagnosis and raised plus encouraged others to raise loads of money and awareness. Before I was ill I had only run 1 one day ultra marathon and a few marathons. If you want to see what is possible look at my website www.makethemostof.it  . Don’t get me wrong, it hurts, a lot sometimes, hip, knee, back, ankle will always be painful after a big race but that’s what cocodamol was invented for!!


we are not the only runners here. Tony still runs most days, has run marathons for the Pcuk and like me is putting himself out there to raise awareness and funds for the charity.


Yes I know that my life will be much shorter than I had hoped/expected but I am doing my best to have the time of my life, every single day. This morning, like every morning, I have a choice, spend my morning worrying about things I can’t change or do or plan something good I can. Feel free to pm me if you want as would be happy to chat.


Never give up.


kev

Dream like you have forever, live like you only have today Avatar is me doing the 600 mile Camino de Santiago May 2019

User
Posted 27 Aug 2018 at 09:04
Click on my history to see my similar diagnosis and journey through hormones, Docetaxel, Cabazitaxel, and now Radium 223.
Keep the Faith
J.
User
Posted 27 Aug 2018 at 10:21

Hi Peter.


Many thanks for responding and your words of encouragement. My wife and myself have our first separate session with our key workers at our local hospice this week - already attend the support group, we feel very supported in this respect.


Thanks for the ‘heads-up’ re ’irun’. 


i hope you’re rollercoaster feels a bit easier


 


Mark 🏃‍♂️

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Posted 27 Aug 2018 at 10:34

Hi Kev


Got back from my first run (just two miles)  this morning for four weeks, and checked my post, so encouraging.


I’d Read the PCUK ‘insight’ mag last week including the article on yourself, i was trying to find a way to contact you, unsuccessfully as I don’t do Facebook, so ist great to find you here. I’ll take up you offer to pm you later, thanks.


Ive checked out your website thanks, very informative and encouraging. Keep up the massive great work you do. I’d love to be able to make a small contribution in a similar manner in the near future, both re awareness through running, early diagnosis.


Im feeling so much more inspired already just through the responses today.


All the very best for the Albania epic, AWESOME!!!!!


Mark 🏃‍♂️

User
Posted 27 Aug 2018 at 12:12

Thanks Valley boy


As suggested  I checked out your history. Helpful and informative, a big pat on the back for your positivity, very  inspiring, Im so pleased to hear you are still managing golf etc while on treatment, fantastic! 


ive always disliked taking any form of medication, so accepting I need hormone, chemo and GCSF for now, Ive managed to only take painkillers and ibropofen for the first week after chemo due to painful side effacts from GCSF


Ill follow your motivating posts


I really appreciate your response


 


Mark

User
Posted 27 Aug 2018 at 16:03

So glad you two made contact. I am sure you will be a great inspiration for each other.


best wishes to you both 


peter

User
Posted 27 Aug 2018 at 19:31

Hi


 


I understand your frustration my husband has APC to bones and lymph nodes , my husband had chemo and is now on prostat injections . He is a similar age to yourself 61. We was told at diagnosis it was an aggressive cancer that was 20 months ago! we dont dwell on things but I’m sure you will know it’s difficult planning thing. You seem to have s good network in place we have not been offered any thing like that . Keep positive 

User
Posted 28 Aug 2018 at 14:41

Hi Mark, 


Diagnosed 5 years ago now, had a year of hormone injections, then 6 rounds of chemo. Still on hormone injections with the addition of bicalutamide. 


Psa level now rising very slowly, so taking away bicalutamide and waiting on a date for new set of scans to see how things are sitting. Probably looking at another round of chemo before enzo's.


Other than that I feel very well, live an active and pretty normal life really.


 


 

User
Posted 12 Sep 2018 at 00:49

Thankyou jujubirtles


i appreciate your positive comments.


I hope your husband has many more enjoyable and pain free ‘20 months’. You’re correct, the uncertainty is difficult when it comes to planning, even so, we need to go ahead with the planning of occasions and events to look forward to no matter how small.


We are very lucky to have such an excellent PC support group at our local hospice where we regularly have 20 in attendance And appropriate visiting speakers, this is all managed by those living with PC.


 


Mark

User
Posted 12 Sep 2018 at 00:52

Thanks Skrimmy


I’m very encouraged to hear you have had five years and are anticipating many more good years.


I wish you every success with your continuing treatment


Mark

User
Posted 22 Sep 2018 at 22:56

As @irun  mentioned I too am a very keen runner. I was diagnosed in May 2017 when a “groin strain” that was hampering my training to run Comrades in South Africa on 4th June 2017. I was just 60 at diagnosis. I’d actually run Paris and Manchester marathons a week apart at the start of April 2017. Saw a sports injury Doc on 8th May 2017 and had an MRI scan that we had pre-arranged. The scan showed up something untoward and I was sent for blood tests, chest x Ray there and then and CT scan the following day. At 8.00pm on 9th May the Doc called to tell me that he was fairly certain I had prostate cancer. Within 10 days confirmed as incurable, Gleason 5+4, PSA 129 and wide spread throughout the bones. The “groin strain” was stress fractures of the pelvis where the cancer had weakened the bones and I’d been running on it.


As Kev said I got back to running although I find it much tougher than pre treatment. What Kev does is just simply superhuman. How anyone does that without testosterone is beyond me. 


However, I do still run 3 days a week, cross train once a week and still get loads of pleasure from it even though I’ve found it hard going from being a 22 minute park runner to 26 minutes (on a good day) as an example. 


I ran London marathon this year for PCUK and raised nearly £13k. In my previous 19 marathons (run between age 50 & 60) I’d averaged 3.33 but in London ran 5.07. I won’t run another marathon but I’ll carry on running as long as this b@@@@@d disease let’s me.


i can’t set the sort of targets that Kev does as I’ve really struggled with endurance running since starting treatment but I still set targets.


Like Kev I’m an awareness speaker and I am currently doing a series of talks to running clubs called Running Into Cancer. I know that my awareness raising has contributed to helping save two men’s lives through early diagnosis.


In respect of treatment I’m doing pretty well. I struggle with the side effects of hormone treatment, loss of oomph, loss of muscle mass, loss of libido, ED etc. However, after 6 months of feeling sorry for myself I got into the philosophy of “living life to the full” and “living with cancer” rather than “dying of cancer”.


PSA not registered for 13 months and long may it continue.


If you want to touch base about running or about PCa in general please do email me at tony.11laurel@virginmedia.com

User
Posted 23 Sep 2018 at 08:07
Hi Tony
Many thanks. I'll take you up on the offer to email.
You're diagnosis sounds very similar to my own. You are inspirational in what you are doing. In my head I've felt so very much better these last few weeks, inspired by the amazing guys at the PC Support Group at our local Blythe House Hospice, irun, yourself and a few others. I'm treating my chemo period as a I would a running injury, acknowledging it, a few very gentle short runs every three weeks, anticipating training after the chemo finishes and a few weeks recuperation - mid November. Can't wait to get out on the hills!
I agree with the awful side effects of the hormone treatment, but if they give me some extra time I'm very happy to live with them.
Long may your PSA not register.
Definitely living life to the full with cancer.
 
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