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Posted 05 Sep 2018 at 16:08

 


hello to all


my name is david I had robotic surgery at the bigining of august this year because I acceppeted a cancelation I missed out on the meeting at the hospital to witch they were going to tell me  about what happens before and after the hop .


my next appointment is knot till the end of September to see the follow up specialist . every thing seems to be setleing down pain nearly gone


just water works to sort out. but two weeks ago when I had to change my pad I found 3 what looks like un used staples stuck to the pad.


they were not there before and three days ago there was another one . there was no pain or any thing I have saved the said items and going to


take them with me to show the doctor se if he can explain why.  has any one hells had the same happen to them selfs.


 


                                                                                                     david 

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Posted 06 Sep 2018 at 04:29

Hem-o-Lok clips are used internally as ligatures during operations and there are instances of them ‘migrating’ post-surgery and constricting the urethra and thus requiring further surgery to remove them.


I was pleased when my surgeon said he didn’t like or use them and that he and his sidekick Da Vinci rely on good old needle and thread.


https://www.teleflex.com/en/usa/productAreas/surgical/productGroups/ligation/products/polymer/

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Posted 09 Sep 2018 at 20:24

Fresh 


I am quite intrigued with this subject. Fresh are you talking metal surgical staples or hem o loc type clips/ staples. I ask because I was given the" impression" that hem o loc clips did not show up on x-rays MRI scans or standard CT scans and could only be detected by certain types of CT scanners. No doubt there are differences in procedures at different hospitials. David,  look forward to hearing your Docs answer.


Thanks Chris

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Posted 05 Sep 2018 at 20:25

Hi David,  I assume your incision staples were removed a week or so after the operation, they look like unused staples.  Could a few have been stuck to your skin by any chance.  It seems unlikely you'd pass staples without feeling it unless they're very small.  Perhaps someone else knows better.  Regards  Peter

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Posted 05 Sep 2018 at 21:47

David


Google" hem o Lok clip" and see if they are the same as you passed. I have had three or four removed but never passed them through the penis. One of my surgeon's other patient did pass one through the penis. They are a polymer clip and are left in as a matter of course. You could have had around 8- 12 used during the op. More of a worry is how they migrated into the bladder or urethra.


Thanks Chris

User
Posted 05 Sep 2018 at 22:54
Ah, I read this differently. I took it to mean that botty is still.wearing dressings on the wound and has found a couple of sutures or staples when changing the dressings? If it is the incontinence pad, then 'stuck to the skin / stuck in the dried scans and now being washed off is probably mist likely explanation.

Botty, are they silver / metal, black / waxy or plastic?
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Posted 05 Sep 2018 at 23:05
Having seen the surgical staples that have been used on the main incision for my nephrectomy operation, I'd say there's absolutely no way it would be possible for something like that to travel through the urethra, and if it somehow managed to do so, then by God you'd notice it! Surgical staples are just like the staples you use to staple paper together, and have two exceedingly sharp points.

Chris
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Posted 06 Sep 2018 at 04:29

Hem-o-Lok clips are used internally as ligatures during operations and there are instances of them ‘migrating’ post-surgery and constricting the urethra and thus requiring further surgery to remove them.


I was pleased when my surgeon said he didn’t like or use them and that he and his sidekick Da Vinci rely on good old needle and thread.


https://www.teleflex.com/en/usa/productAreas/surgical/productGroups/ligation/products/polymer/

Edited by member 06 Sep 2018 at 04:31  | Reason: Not specified

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Posted 09 Sep 2018 at 15:26

hi to all they defo were not stuck to me as suggested they have come from somewhere your guesse is as good as mine .


any way got to go for blood tests Tuesday prior to seing doc heres hoping things are well


 


                                                                                         david

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Posted 09 Sep 2018 at 18:10

Botty.


after my RALP I had an xray (same day as operation) it Showed quite clearly the position (internally) of staples used as part of the reconstruction elements of the RALP. what material are they made of? I suspect you passed them and should ask the doctor for his opinion on if an X-ray needed to see if thier unexpected departure is an issue


Fresh

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User
Posted 09 Sep 2018 at 20:24

Fresh 


I am quite intrigued with this subject. Fresh are you talking metal surgical staples or hem o loc type clips/ staples. I ask because I was given the" impression" that hem o loc clips did not show up on x-rays MRI scans or standard CT scans and could only be detected by certain types of CT scanners. No doubt there are differences in procedures at different hospitials. David,  look forward to hearing your Docs answer.


Thanks Chris

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Posted 09 Sep 2018 at 20:33

I think they are metal. When you see them on an X-ray they are clustered in the gap roughly where the prostate was. So I assumed they are part of the urethra/blader re work. I am seeing my surgeon next week so will ask. I asked the xray technician what they were made of and he said they are metal but it’s not ferrous they are surgical metal so that they dont get caught in magnetic fields under MRI. I counted at least 8 on my X-ray but have the image on a disk somewhere.


Fresh

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