ray,thanks i feel ok yeah will be low t,i was on testesterone therapy before i was dx with pc and i looked and felt a lot better,the way i look now i am surprised i am still walking about,i have got a gp appointment on the 24th dec,but will probably not do anything,before i was refered back to my gp i asked my urologist doctor regards testesterone and he said not a good idea in case there is some sleeping cancer cells,it is bone loss and muscle loss,i am honestly ashamed of how i look, i cant take my shirt off in front of anyone and i have to wear more clothes to make me look a bit fatter and keep warm. cheers.