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Posted 12 Jan 2019 at 13:05

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

wise words Chris. I had similar advice about whether to max my pension lump sum. i always thought i would take the smaller lump sum and maximise my monthly income. But I would have to live to 73 to catch up. Im not confident i will live till then but if i do i will have the state pension to top up my income

John was advised to take the maximum lump sum on the basis that he doesn't lose out until he is 77. 

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 12 Jan 2019 at 13:17

I also took max lump sum as there is a high chance of me not reaching my mid 60s never mind 70s.

Carpe Diem!

On the treatment at work situation my head teacher told me she thought i should be retiring!

I would have won a grievance case against her but according to my professional rep at SSTA it would take an intolerable toll on my well being to pursue it.

She telephoned HR who metaphorically kicked ass about inappropriate comments.

 

 

Ido4

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Posted 12 Jan 2019 at 13:44

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

On the treatment at work situation my head teacher told me she thought i should be retiring!

 

🤦‍♀️ I can imagine the conversation in the HR department afterwards, and most of what was said about that HT is probably unprintable! 

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 12 Jan 2019 at 15:07

Thanks for the info Lyne/Ulsterman

 

i will speak to the RCN on Monday about temporary reduced hours and the impact of pay

 

👍

User
Posted 12 Jan 2019 at 15:30
Hi Kb,

Have you sat down and worked out on paper what ££ you need to live on, if not as you'd like, at least enough to be comfortable on?

On paper? You can factor in moving, downsizing, switching your weekly shop from Fortnum & Masons to Aldi or Lidl.

Then maybe do a trial living on what ever your future budget might be, see if it's doable, manageable for you all?

dave

All we can do - is do all that we can.

So, do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)

I am the statistic.

User
Posted 12 Jan 2019 at 16:45

Yeah Dave,

 

thats important and I need to give it serious thought before embarking on any major decisions

User
Posted 12 Jan 2019 at 17:45

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

wise words Chris. I had similar advice about whether to max my pension lump sum. i always thought i would take the smaller lump sum and maximise my monthly income. But I would have to live to 73 to catch up. Im not confident i will live till then but if i do i will have the state pension to top up my income

John was advised to take the maximum lump sum on the basis that he doesn't lose out until he is 77. 

 

plus it doesn’t effect the widows pension. There is also a lump sum paid out if i die within 10 years of taking the pension. All uplifting stuff eh.....

Edited by member 12 Jan 2019 at 20:34  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 08 Jun 2019 at 19:22

Many thanks for the informative post about your situation as it relates closely to my situation. I have been teaching in London in the state system for some twenty years and was diagnosed like you with T3a disease at the age of 51. Like you, I have had RP, SRT and am receiving HT at the moment. Have chosen to opt for early retirement and am presently applying for my Teachers' Pension. My oncologist and GP are completing the forms and I have an appointment pending with the mental health doctor. Could you give some suggestions as to what to discuss with the mental health doctor aside from stress/anxiety in the classroom as it relates to our condition? Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Additionally, any examples of statements or key words/points that the mental health doctor wrote on your form would be a great help. Thanks again.

User
Posted 08 Jun 2019 at 23:56

David

Ido4 (Ian) is the teacher who got early retirement.  Hopefully he’ll be able to help.

i’m 48 now and am just about to complete my course of HT.  I’ve already had a prostatectomy and SRT.  I teach just outside London. 

I’d be interested in your progress with teachers pensions as I think I might like to retire and get a less stressful, part time job to supplement my pension.  The issue is, I may be cancer free so I think I’ll have to wait until it is confirmed that the cancer has returned before applying, which I obviously hope it hasn’t

ulsterman 

User
Posted 09 Jun 2019 at 14:54
What a dilemma?

You haven’t got cancer (like me, for now), but there might be a financial advantage to you if you did. That is all wrong.

Hope it all pans out ok for all of you.

Best of luck!

Cheers, John.

User
Posted 09 Jun 2019 at 15:10
After careful consideration, I'm retiring on 1st August this year, at which time I'll be 57. Being diagnosed with two different types of cancer and everything I've been through, treatment-wise, in the last year, has made me realise that there are far more important things in life than work. I've worked out all the finances and I can easily afford to retire with very little (if any) change in my standard of living, so I may as well do it.

Hopefully the cancer is all sorted out, but if either does recur at some point in the future, I want to enjoy whatever time I have, whether that's 5 years or 40 years! All the paperwork for my various pensions in now submitted, so just a matter of waiting for 1st August to come along. I can't wait - I have all sorts of plans.

Best wishes,

Chris

User
Posted 09 Jun 2019 at 18:36

Just picked this up. I had a mental health doctor complete a form, also had forms from my GP, oncologist and rheumatologist plus a report funded by my council employer from occupational health.

 

Ido4

User
Posted 09 Jun 2019 at 22:04
I was advised by our HR dept to see our OH doctor as I have a recurrence. Much as I expected they have said I am not eligible for retirement due to my illness.

Bri

User
Posted 09 Jun 2019 at 22:34

Although I retired on medical grounds I was deemed fit enough to do jobs other than teaching! As a result I didn’t get any enhancement on my pension.

Ido4

User
Posted 10 Jun 2019 at 07:00
With my employer if you are fit to do any other job anywhere you are not eligible. Very high threshold

Bri

User
Posted 10 Jun 2019 at 15:04

And that is the issue - even if I do have a recurrence, the fact that my cancer will then be incurable does not necessarily mean that I am incapable of doing any job in the organisation, if it has one available which meets my skill set.  I think it will only be once I become a burden to the organisation that the pension scheme really kicks in.  It isn't the fact that one has incurable cancer that is the criteria for early medical retirement - it is how that cancer impacts upon your ability to do the job.  And, of course, there are death in service benefits to consider too.  My death in service is three times my annual salary, so as a headteacher, that is a considerable sum.  I need to know how quickly I'm likely to die if I have a recurrence as I wouldn't want my kids to lose out on that.

It's funny how our protective systems almost make want to be ill so that we unlock big sums of money.

And no one should proceed without sound independent financial advice.

Ulsterman

Edited by member 10 Jun 2019 at 15:11  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 10 Jun 2019 at 15:58
My friend with PCa has a stock of Nembutal (Pentobarbital) from a Peruvian Veterinary Surgery, if you want your estate to claim your death in service benefits early😉

He is a member of Exit, the Voluntary Euthanasia Society, or whatever it’s called these days, goes to all their meetings, and is perfectly fit, running five K a day, except for...

As I live next door to a vet, he’s implored me to ‘chat her up, and get some Nembutal for yourself’.

If I ever get to that point, I would rather ‘fall’ off my balcony on a cruise ship, preferably near to one of the poles, rather than the Caribbean where the sea is around 28° C.

Cheers, John.

User
Posted 10 Jun 2019 at 16:31

Hi Bri, the threshold was pretty high, but the reports focused on my ability to sustain 55-60 hour weeks, be on my feet a lot, and deal with fatigue plus toilet issues. Plus the stress of dealing with exam entries, staff issues, pupil discipline, 14 hour days when a patents consultation was happening after school etc.

You can’t just leave a class of teenagers when you need to go to the loo otherwise trouble erupts? Especially as I was teaching Physics so pupils would be doing experiments which adds another layer and of potential health and safety issues.

I was also suffering from anxiety and depression which was taken into account.

My body wasn’t coping and unlikely to recover to a point where it could cope.

I was also suffering visual migraines which intensified with stress and fatigue.

That was what decided it.

After surgery alone I wouldn’t have qualified. I’m sorry to read your employer is setting even higher thresholds.

All the best.

 

 

Ido4

User
Posted 10 Jun 2019 at 17:17

Cheers. I am a qualified professional managing other qualified staff and I am at the top salary scale for my post. I manage lots of very complex work including protecting vulnerable people.  But if I am able to sit in a chair pushing a button somewhere then I’m not eligible. 

Bri 

User
Posted 10 Jun 2019 at 17:58

That’s a tough one Bri. Hope you didn’t mind my more detailed response.

 

Ido4

 
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