Choline content of foods

I followed the link and read the article thanks.

I gave up eggs about 18 months ago having read about a possible link with Pca.

I think it was mostly studies done by the American ncbi but there are others too. I remember there was no actual evidence which we all know is the case with most diet studies, but there did seem to be a link with men who ate more than three eggs per week over their whole life. Bare in mind that men who eat eggs may well be eating bacon with them. It was also said somewhere that even if there is a link with eggs that it might not be due to the Choline anyway.

At about that time I was changing my diet cosiderably. I cut out the usual stuff, red meet, processed meet, dairy, poultry skin etc... Some Pca sufferers do and some don't. I dont really know if it does any good for Pca or not. I also excercise regularly now and I'm 2.5 stone lighter than before the Op, well within the normal range. I believe the excercise is atleast as important as the diet. Blood pressure is also good now.

Whether it helps keep a recurrence away or not I'll never know but I am healthier now and just feel I am doing something positive that may help.

It's always in the back of my mind that I can give this up and go back to like before whenever I want and probably will at some point, this also helps.

Also I do still allow little slip ups on special occasions and drink to much every weekend.

The article points out that there are many other sources of Choline and I eat a very varied diet and have had full blood tests which have returned excellent results, although Choline was not included. So I suppose the dilemma still revolves around whether it is the eggs the choline, neither or nothing at all. As always with this awful disease it seems nothing is for sure. Sorry not a definitive answer but just my view.

My Uro says there is no good scientific evidence that anything other than a varied healthy diet is of benefit and there is no good scientific evidence that there is any particular cause YET.

Btw most packet pasta contains just a small amount of egg powder and some none at all. You can also make your own with no eggs very easily. I do and experiment with different flours and additions, crushed seeds, herbs, chilli, turmeric etc. Google has loads on it.

Sorry but I don't think you will find a definite answer to the eggs/choline influence just like everything else.

All we can do is make our choices based on what we know, what we believe, what our attitude to risk is and what we want regarding QOL.

All the best for the future whatever you do.

Cheers

Bill

Yes agreed francij1, as is the case with everything high in calories, also everything with saturated fat etc...

Eggs are also bad for cholesterol.

Cheers

Bill

All I meen is being over weight is blamed for increasing the risk for most cancers. Thats not to say that if your not over weight your not at risk.

Pca does seem to be indiscriminate.

Personally I believe in the more environmental and diet theories as cause.

No dought though that being a healthy weight has many benefits

Sorry if a gave the wrong impression of my opinion.

Cheers

Bill

These dietary discussions are really about shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. 

There is no doubt - none whatsoever - that a healthy diet reduces the risks of getting many cancers. But almost everyone on this forum already has PCa, so we already have one cancer to worry about.

And the age group of most of us - 60+ - means that changing diet now is probably 40 years too late. Even the "5 A Day" initiative has had virtually no effect on the incidence of cancer (which was the intention), though it has been a major plus with heart disease.

I've cut out dairy and lost some weight - because I have hypertension.

The best way to deal with cancer is to be as healthy as you can. Denying nutrients to the cancer means denying them to other bits of you that might need them.

And I'd rather drop dead than cut out bacon.