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User
Posted 11 Sep 2019 at 22:13

Hi


I am posting this seperately from my "trials" threads as it is extremely important.  I was going to say I don't want to scare you.... but I really do!


Quick recap. Was offered a new trial, and had an extensive medical, followed up by base scans performed the following week. Unfortunately one of my blood levels was too high so outside parameters of trial so didnt go ahead. However, last friday I was told that the CT scan showed that I was showing signs of spinal cord compression. The pictures showed one point where the spinal column had a tumour starting to break into the canal.


Going back to my extensive medical, which included all relexes tested and I passed everything with flying colours. Fast forward to Tuesday this week just before getting an MRI scan, reflex were tested again. The doctor COULD NOT get any involuntary reflex action from any of my knees. Nothing, despite persistingly thumping me with his hammer. This is only 11 days after having no problem whatsoever. Guys, this is only 264 hours!


Straight after the MRI scan an emergency medical incident on me was called as it showed one of the tumours was now pressing directly on my spinal cord. That has happened in the week since my CT scan last Tuesday.


The plan was to give me all my radiotherapy in one go, but was decided today to treat me over 4 working days as the effects would be overwhelming, extreme tiredness, vomiting, diarrhea and bone pain flare up.


Enough about me, I think I have been extremely fortunate. I honestly thought my aches and pains were just because not getting any treatment at the moment, maybe I was getting slightly worse.


Talking with the oncologists, it was stressed to me that everyone who has had chemo was given an emergency number direct to the specialist ward. If anything, and I mean ANYTHING has changed, any ache or pain, numbness, pins and needles, give the number a ring. A specialist will talk things through and more than likely get you in to check you over and maybe a CT scan. Yes, you will have to write the whole day off but believe me, it will be worthwhile. This is no time for the British stiff upper lip.


Even if your regular Onco appointment is next week and you think you will just mention it then, dont! They will never dismiss your concerns. I was told that by my consultant yesterday that he has seen 2 men who's only symptom was numbness wiping their bottons after going to the toilet. Nothing else, just that. So noticed about 20 seconds once a day. No change in your body is too small.


If only one person reading this is inspired (or frightened) into getting any change investigated earlier, I will be so happy. My team was on the ball, and even then, I think I was only days away being paralysed. God knows what would happen after that.


Don't delay-Ever!


Best regards

User
Posted 11 Sep 2019 at 22:13

Hi


I am posting this seperately from my "trials" threads as it is extremely important.  I was going to say I don't want to scare you.... but I really do!


Quick recap. Was offered a new trial, and had an extensive medical, followed up by base scans performed the following week. Unfortunately one of my blood levels was too high so outside parameters of trial so didnt go ahead. However, last friday I was told that the CT scan showed that I was showing signs of spinal cord compression. The pictures showed one point where the spinal column had a tumour starting to break into the canal.


Going back to my extensive medical, which included all relexes tested and I passed everything with flying colours. Fast forward to Tuesday this week just before getting an MRI scan, reflex were tested again. The doctor COULD NOT get any involuntary reflex action from any of my knees. Nothing, despite persistingly thumping me with his hammer. This is only 11 days after having no problem whatsoever. Guys, this is only 264 hours!


Straight after the MRI scan an emergency medical incident on me was called as it showed one of the tumours was now pressing directly on my spinal cord. That has happened in the week since my CT scan last Tuesday.


The plan was to give me all my radiotherapy in one go, but was decided today to treat me over 4 working days as the effects would be overwhelming, extreme tiredness, vomiting, diarrhea and bone pain flare up.


Enough about me, I think I have been extremely fortunate. I honestly thought my aches and pains were just because not getting any treatment at the moment, maybe I was getting slightly worse.


Talking with the oncologists, it was stressed to me that everyone who has had chemo was given an emergency number direct to the specialist ward. If anything, and I mean ANYTHING has changed, any ache or pain, numbness, pins and needles, give the number a ring. A specialist will talk things through and more than likely get you in to check you over and maybe a CT scan. Yes, you will have to write the whole day off but believe me, it will be worthwhile. This is no time for the British stiff upper lip.


Even if your regular Onco appointment is next week and you think you will just mention it then, dont! They will never dismiss your concerns. I was told that by my consultant yesterday that he has seen 2 men who's only symptom was numbness wiping their bottons after going to the toilet. Nothing else, just that. So noticed about 20 seconds once a day. No change in your body is too small.


If only one person reading this is inspired (or frightened) into getting any change investigated earlier, I will be so happy. My team was on the ball, and even then, I think I was only days away being paralysed. God knows what would happen after that.


Don't delay-Ever!


Best regards

User
Posted 11 Sep 2019 at 23:15
This is a really important point Orm - we have seen too many members on here that had never been warned about the indicators of SCC and / or were unaware that it is a medical emergency. In a couple of cases it was only posting on here and getting panicky replies of "phone an ambulance now!" that prevented more serious damage and sadly we have seen men here who were left permanently disabled by SCC.

Glad that you got the response you needed at the right time!
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 12 Sep 2019 at 12:15
Fully agree. Literally came home from Royal Derby hospital last night after nearly two weeks. All started fortnight before with the numbness across bottom, thought I’d mention it at next Oncologist meeting! Then the lower back pain became really bad so took myself off to A&E on the Sunday to be told they should have seen me two weeks ago, this was a medical emergency. Bowel movements packed up and bladder refused to cooperate. So catheterised and scheduled for five fractions of radiotherapy across sacrum. Released home back to my Oncologist at Queen’s Burton. Still numb but Symptoms improved except bladder so on medium/long term catheter and feeling bloody exhausted. Fully intend not to ignore any changes, no matter how small in future.

David
User
Posted 13 Oct 2019 at 15:34

Just to give you an update on my physical progress, the human body is a truly remarkable thing.


As you know, I have remarked having "nothing in my legs" and about the disconnect I seem to have between my brain and legs.


Last week, whilst persevering walking, I had a strange sensation in my left leg, the following two days I had what could only be described as an electric shock down the same leg, twice.


It appears that it was my nerves reconnecting with my legs as the zapped tumours were receding away from my spinal cord!


Fast forward a week and although not exactly back to what I was, I think I am getting stronger day by day. Maybe 80% but getting there. My usual walking pace was a fairly fast 6km/hour, and two or three weeks ago the most I could manage about 3.8-4km/hour. This morning I achieved a sustained 3 mile walk at 5.6 km/hour! I just need to work on my stamina so I can do a normal 6 mile continuous walk at a fast pace. As it is at the moment I need to split my walks up and have a rest in the middle.


Saw my Onco last week and told another trial is imminent for me but in the meantime I have been put on Stilbestrol as an interim measure. Bloody hell, forgot about hot flushes!


Here is another interesting thing. My PSA, which nearly blew the testing machine up with a level of over 1700 has more than halved to a little over 800. After the intensive radiotherapy they fully expected the PSA to spike even further. It has got them a little baffled.


As I said on my opening sentence, the human body is a remarkable thing!


Best regards

User
Posted 26 Sep 2019 at 15:41

Had my follow up appointment with the head of radiotherapy/oncology department., following the 4 x 45 minute intensive radiotherapy sessions.


Told that SCC is rather similar to having a stroke with neurological damage to spine rather than the brain. They have taken decisive action against the tumours, but what they do not know is what, if any, nerve damage has been caused, and if it indeed will get any better.


I am constantly aware that I seem to have "nothing in the legs" at the moment and get upset with myself that I am not recovering faster that I would like, but told it could take many months before any sort of normality can be established.


I still walk every single day, and know to the minute how long certain walks from my house takes. As an example, a walk which with regular monotony used to take 38 minutes now takes 55-60 minutes.


This is after SCC was diagnosed and acted upon immediately. I shudder to think if there had been any delay. I feel like the luckyist man alive.


I can be considered for more trials 28 days after radiotherapy so just another 2 weeks to go.


Best regards

User
Posted 26 Sep 2019 at 16:18
And one of the toughest
User
Posted 31 Mar 2022 at 10:25

Hi David, I hope that you are recovering well and everything is going to plan re: treatments and physio.  I totally agree that any man with the symptoms you described should get help straight away.  Get a relative or friend to take you to A & E for an emergency MRI.  My advice would be do not waste valuable time dialling the emergency services.  The time spent waiting for them to arrive is currently diabolical, the questions they ask upon arrival are all about box ticking before they even decide whether to take you to hospital.  My relative has advanced prostate cancer and knows he is on borrowed time.  We suspected a SCC and said this to emergency services. He had developed bowel incontinence and was struggling to walk. The emergency services watched him walk down 2 flights of stairs and to the ambulance whilst in very obvious pain and no assistance whatsoever was offered.  He spent over 24hrs on a trolley in A & E before they could find him a bed on a ward.  So hence, it was even longer before he had his MRI scan.  A further 24hrs at least before he was offered radiotherapy, an operation was out of the question.  He is now struggling to walk and devastated that he may not be able to walk again.  When I think of all of the treatments he has endured since his diagnosis nearly 5 yrs ago and how well he has coped, it makes me so angry that all of the advertising campaigns harp on about mens health and how they should get checked etc etc.  He visited his GP numerous times and was fobbed off and told he was stressed.  Well, no where near as stressed as he has been the last 5 yrs as by the time they checked his psa he already had incurable cancer.    All of the guidelines relating to SCC also state that it is an emergency and should be treated as such but they have yet again failed on all counts.  The only things I can say that are favourable about his treatment are that he has a brilliant oncologist and the nurses on the wards he has been on have been excellent.  Never have I been more aware of how upsetting, stressful and debilitating a prostate cancer diagnosis can become.  Money spent on treatments after diagnosis would be better spent on ensuring all men get checked and listened to when symptoms develop instead of advertising and leaflets.

User
Posted 01 Apr 2022 at 12:47

Hi,


SCC can come on out of the blue if you have APC.Last August had outpatient appointment at Guys and my legs without any prior warning collapsed when I went to get a prescription at their pharmacy!


One of the doctors had a look at me and immediately called ambulance and admitted to near by hospital.My stay was for 4 weeks during which I had 5 zaps of radiotherapy on back and extensive physiotherapy.


After release had months extensive physiotherapy at home.Adaptions made to house eg extra stair rail to made life with limited mobility tolerable.


Have to count my blessings as able to get round with walking stick .Many who get SCC wheel chair bound.


Regards


Norm

Edited by member 01 Apr 2022 at 13:22  | Reason: Typo

User
Posted 28 Dec 2025 at 06:23

I know this isn't a very recent thread but I just came across it. I'm my husband's carer and don't have much time to look for posts etc and to write - except sometimes in the small hours of the morning. 

I want to add that Macmillan have a comprehensive MSCC alert kit - leaflet and alert card that can be viewed online and printed off - and/or are also free to order from Macmillan.


https://orders.macmillan.org.uk/products/mac15457_kit_e04-mscc-alert-kit


The card includes brief (but important) info for doctors & health practitioners.
We also have a MSCC card given to us by the NHS when my husband was diagnosed with advanced PC.


I do also have to add, however, that despite following the protocol on the cards ourselves - got him admitted urgently to A&E - the medical profession STILL didn't follow their own NHS protocol! They wasted time with a CT scan. Put him on pain killers and laxatives and said he didn't have any symptoms of MSCC! The extreme pain and constipation had been relieved somewhat by opiates and laxatives and the CT scan didn't show any obvious compression! (Unsurprisingly - being a CT scan...).
They waited till the next day to do an MRI and had already arranged to transfer him to another ward in the same hospital and assumed no further treatment would be needed.
However, of course the MRI showed unequivocal compression at T10 (where it was already known - back in March 2024 - there was much cancer).
Fortunately he was then transferred, as an emergency, to a hospital that could do the 5 days radiotherapy course.
Even more fortunately, he was treated before developing any paralysis - though he is still in much discomfort and spending most of his time in bed. (Before the compression, he was quite active and happy).
The radiotherapy only finished 10 days ago, so there may well be further improvement. Though his cancer is stage 4 and incurable, so we don't expect any miracles.


Also to mention:
We know the steroids are essential with MSCC.
However, the steroids are having a mega effect on his sleep. Even with the current reducing dosages as he's weaned back off them.
He's simply not sleeping - more than a couple of hours a night! (and awake all day).
It's now 6am and he's still awake upstairs. Been awake all night, as far as I know.
This is all despite taking 2 sleeping tablets a night since Tuesday - as prescribed by local GP we went to see.


We have an appointment with his oncologist on 6th Jan, so will see what his take is on it.
Don't yet know what to think of him as we've only seen him a very small handful of times since hubby was diagnosed in Feb 2024. 
He's mainly been having 6-monthly phone appointments with specialist urology nurses.
Incidentally, his PSA reached a nadir in June 2024 but that hasn't seemed to have raised alarm bells.
That said, they perhaps feel there wouldn't be much they can do - as apalutamide reacted really badly with him (one pill in May 2024) and he understandably doesn't want to go back on it.


He's been on 3-monthly prostap injections since diagnosis. (Till the last injection, they were being administered intramuscular - in error. That was picked up on with last phone consultation with specialist nurse back in August. So last injection (November) was administered subcutaneously, as directed by oncology/urology departments).


Not really asking for advice here - as much as anything wanted to raise two facts in one go, that may be important and helpful to others.
1)  The free Macmillan MSCC kit. (see link at start of this monologue).
2)   If on 3 monthly prostap injections - make sure it's administered subcutanously not intramuscular. If you have access to your medical records, this will be recorded each time the injection is administered - probably using abbreviations. (We just didn't know to check!).


 

Edited by member 29 Dec 2025 at 06:46  | Reason: Factually incorrect regarding the prostap injections.

Christine

User
Posted 30 Dec 2025 at 18:53
Dear Tendzin (and those preceding who reported on MSCC),
I'm so sorry you went through this but I am extremely grateful to you for posting. It heightened my awareness and others I'm certain as well. Hope things improve post-RT. And wish you the best for the new year. Thanks again.
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User
Posted 11 Sep 2019 at 23:15
This is a really important point Orm - we have seen too many members on here that had never been warned about the indicators of SCC and / or were unaware that it is a medical emergency. In a couple of cases it was only posting on here and getting panicky replies of "phone an ambulance now!" that prevented more serious damage and sadly we have seen men here who were left permanently disabled by SCC.

Glad that you got the response you needed at the right time!
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 12 Sep 2019 at 12:15
Fully agree. Literally came home from Royal Derby hospital last night after nearly two weeks. All started fortnight before with the numbness across bottom, thought I’d mention it at next Oncologist meeting! Then the lower back pain became really bad so took myself off to A&E on the Sunday to be told they should have seen me two weeks ago, this was a medical emergency. Bowel movements packed up and bladder refused to cooperate. So catheterised and scheduled for five fractions of radiotherapy across sacrum. Released home back to my Oncologist at Queen’s Burton. Still numb but Symptoms improved except bladder so on medium/long term catheter and feeling bloody exhausted. Fully intend not to ignore any changes, no matter how small in future.

David
User
Posted 26 Sep 2019 at 15:41

Had my follow up appointment with the head of radiotherapy/oncology department., following the 4 x 45 minute intensive radiotherapy sessions.


Told that SCC is rather similar to having a stroke with neurological damage to spine rather than the brain. They have taken decisive action against the tumours, but what they do not know is what, if any, nerve damage has been caused, and if it indeed will get any better.


I am constantly aware that I seem to have "nothing in the legs" at the moment and get upset with myself that I am not recovering faster that I would like, but told it could take many months before any sort of normality can be established.


I still walk every single day, and know to the minute how long certain walks from my house takes. As an example, a walk which with regular monotony used to take 38 minutes now takes 55-60 minutes.


This is after SCC was diagnosed and acted upon immediately. I shudder to think if there had been any delay. I feel like the luckyist man alive.


I can be considered for more trials 28 days after radiotherapy so just another 2 weeks to go.


Best regards

User
Posted 26 Sep 2019 at 16:18
And one of the toughest
User
Posted 27 Sep 2019 at 21:45

Thank you for sharing this on the forum.  


It was only from reading this forum that I gained the knowledge of Spinal cord compression.  It has never been mentioned to my dad at his consultations. 


 


 

Edited by member 27 Sep 2019 at 21:54  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 01 Oct 2019 at 18:38

I’m so sorry you got this, but fantastic that something has been done. I will never know if John had it as he wasn’t able to move for the 21 days of so before he died but I suspect so. He had no bowel movements whatsoever though and had a catheter anyway. He had had severe pain in his knees and numbness in his legs meaning he was unable to stand or walk, he didn’t get referred as he was immobile and we thought that any attempt to get him to hospital would be catastrophic. It’s great that you have raised this serious issue as people simply don’t realise this can happen so quickly.


 


good luck for the future treatment


Devonmaid xxx

User
Posted 13 Oct 2019 at 15:34

Just to give you an update on my physical progress, the human body is a truly remarkable thing.


As you know, I have remarked having "nothing in my legs" and about the disconnect I seem to have between my brain and legs.


Last week, whilst persevering walking, I had a strange sensation in my left leg, the following two days I had what could only be described as an electric shock down the same leg, twice.


It appears that it was my nerves reconnecting with my legs as the zapped tumours were receding away from my spinal cord!


Fast forward a week and although not exactly back to what I was, I think I am getting stronger day by day. Maybe 80% but getting there. My usual walking pace was a fairly fast 6km/hour, and two or three weeks ago the most I could manage about 3.8-4km/hour. This morning I achieved a sustained 3 mile walk at 5.6 km/hour! I just need to work on my stamina so I can do a normal 6 mile continuous walk at a fast pace. As it is at the moment I need to split my walks up and have a rest in the middle.


Saw my Onco last week and told another trial is imminent for me but in the meantime I have been put on Stilbestrol as an interim measure. Bloody hell, forgot about hot flushes!


Here is another interesting thing. My PSA, which nearly blew the testing machine up with a level of over 1700 has more than halved to a little over 800. After the intensive radiotherapy they fully expected the PSA to spike even further. It has got them a little baffled.


As I said on my opening sentence, the human body is a remarkable thing!


Best regards

User
Posted 13 Oct 2019 at 19:25
Great attitude , very stoic and brave. Best wishes on as good a recovery you can get !!
User
Posted 13 Oct 2019 at 21:16

Amazing progress with walking pace. Best wishes,


 

Ido4

User
Posted 13 Oct 2019 at 23:17

Thank you for sharing this - we had no idea this sort of thing could happEN so suddenly. The alert may save someone else in the future.

User
Posted 15 Oct 2019 at 10:09

Well done for sharing. Similarly my late partner had SCC , as with some others, never mentioned in consultations or the potential seriousness of it. RT didnt help in his case. So important people are forewarned as to this most unpleasant condition.

User
Posted 11 Nov 2019 at 20:00

Just a quick udate. last Thursday in bed I was suddenly aware of my right foot being completely numb. Even all my toes. I knew immediately it was more spinal cord compression. Emergency number rang who advised going to A&E immediately.


Later on Friday I had another MRI scan which confirmed the compression on the lower part of my spine. Given huge dose of steroids to reduce swelling on cord. and a weeks supply whilst they conferred with my specialist oncology team, which is a different hospital.


Had this been a new area then I would have had more radiotherapy. Unfortunately this was one of the areas treated in September and I had the maximum amount of radiation permissible. Therefore the plan is to continue on the steroids, albeit on a reduced amount. They think this is just a flare up and can be controlled untill my next phase 1 trial which is imminent.


As an absolutely last resort, surgery has been mentioned but they are loath to do (not too keen myself!)


The steroids are working however, as I have feelings back in my foot, even my toes, which is great. Seeing Onco in 4 weeks so that will be interesting.


Never a dull moment!


Best regards

User
Posted 12 Nov 2019 at 15:06

Must have been a bit of a scare Orm. Glad you’re feeling has returned.


 

Ido4

User
Posted 13 Nov 2019 at 09:26

Well here I am back in Royal Derby for the last 10 days looks like the spinal compression is making a real fight of it. Had to go to Derby because Burton MRI don’t run at the weekend. Have now got pretty good use of my left leg but not the right. Having another five fractions o Radiothrapy. They’re determined to get the right leg functioning so am hopeful on that score. Bowel movements have sprung into life and need watching!  Bladder still catheterised. Did a stupid trick in the ward by trying to make it to the loo ( against all instructions) promptly fell so have a very sore back. Absolutely no idea where this is all going but just a little anxious  


one blow is that my lovely oncologist saw me yesterday to tell Abiraterone is not working. Expect this means Cabazitaxel but what then? She doesn’t really want to see me just yet until I can get a bit better and hopefully walk. All getting a bit worrying.


onward and upward


David


 


 


 

User
Posted 15 Nov 2019 at 11:26

Hi David, so sorry to hear of your difficulties. But you are correct, of all the things I imagined about this disease progression, loss of mobility was not one of them.


It is the most awful thing having a disconnect from your brain to your legs. It is an area very much neglected yet can have devastating consequences.


The radiotherapy will definately help, but as in my case after really doing well, one of the tumours flared up putting me back to square 1.


All we can do is keep fighting!


Best regards

User
Posted 31 Mar 2022 at 10:25

Hi David, I hope that you are recovering well and everything is going to plan re: treatments and physio.  I totally agree that any man with the symptoms you described should get help straight away.  Get a relative or friend to take you to A & E for an emergency MRI.  My advice would be do not waste valuable time dialling the emergency services.  The time spent waiting for them to arrive is currently diabolical, the questions they ask upon arrival are all about box ticking before they even decide whether to take you to hospital.  My relative has advanced prostate cancer and knows he is on borrowed time.  We suspected a SCC and said this to emergency services. He had developed bowel incontinence and was struggling to walk. The emergency services watched him walk down 2 flights of stairs and to the ambulance whilst in very obvious pain and no assistance whatsoever was offered.  He spent over 24hrs on a trolley in A & E before they could find him a bed on a ward.  So hence, it was even longer before he had his MRI scan.  A further 24hrs at least before he was offered radiotherapy, an operation was out of the question.  He is now struggling to walk and devastated that he may not be able to walk again.  When I think of all of the treatments he has endured since his diagnosis nearly 5 yrs ago and how well he has coped, it makes me so angry that all of the advertising campaigns harp on about mens health and how they should get checked etc etc.  He visited his GP numerous times and was fobbed off and told he was stressed.  Well, no where near as stressed as he has been the last 5 yrs as by the time they checked his psa he already had incurable cancer.    All of the guidelines relating to SCC also state that it is an emergency and should be treated as such but they have yet again failed on all counts.  The only things I can say that are favourable about his treatment are that he has a brilliant oncologist and the nurses on the wards he has been on have been excellent.  Never have I been more aware of how upsetting, stressful and debilitating a prostate cancer diagnosis can become.  Money spent on treatments after diagnosis would be better spent on ensuring all men get checked and listened to when symptoms develop instead of advertising and leaflets.

User
Posted 31 Mar 2022 at 12:13

Last post from David was in November 2019 and Orm was in February 2020 which is concerning.

Edited by member 01 Apr 2022 at 23:05  | Reason: Not specified

Barry
User
Posted 01 Apr 2022 at 12:47

Hi,


SCC can come on out of the blue if you have APC.Last August had outpatient appointment at Guys and my legs without any prior warning collapsed when I went to get a prescription at their pharmacy!


One of the doctors had a look at me and immediately called ambulance and admitted to near by hospital.My stay was for 4 weeks during which I had 5 zaps of radiotherapy on back and extensive physiotherapy.


After release had months extensive physiotherapy at home.Adaptions made to house eg extra stair rail to made life with limited mobility tolerable.


Have to count my blessings as able to get round with walking stick .Many who get SCC wheel chair bound.


Regards


Norm

Edited by member 01 Apr 2022 at 13:22  | Reason: Typo

User
Posted 28 Dec 2025 at 06:23

I know this isn't a very recent thread but I just came across it. I'm my husband's carer and don't have much time to look for posts etc and to write - except sometimes in the small hours of the morning. 

I want to add that Macmillan have a comprehensive MSCC alert kit - leaflet and alert card that can be viewed online and printed off - and/or are also free to order from Macmillan.


https://orders.macmillan.org.uk/products/mac15457_kit_e04-mscc-alert-kit


The card includes brief (but important) info for doctors & health practitioners.
We also have a MSCC card given to us by the NHS when my husband was diagnosed with advanced PC.


I do also have to add, however, that despite following the protocol on the cards ourselves - got him admitted urgently to A&E - the medical profession STILL didn't follow their own NHS protocol! They wasted time with a CT scan. Put him on pain killers and laxatives and said he didn't have any symptoms of MSCC! The extreme pain and constipation had been relieved somewhat by opiates and laxatives and the CT scan didn't show any obvious compression! (Unsurprisingly - being a CT scan...).
They waited till the next day to do an MRI and had already arranged to transfer him to another ward in the same hospital and assumed no further treatment would be needed.
However, of course the MRI showed unequivocal compression at T10 (where it was already known - back in March 2024 - there was much cancer).
Fortunately he was then transferred, as an emergency, to a hospital that could do the 5 days radiotherapy course.
Even more fortunately, he was treated before developing any paralysis - though he is still in much discomfort and spending most of his time in bed. (Before the compression, he was quite active and happy).
The radiotherapy only finished 10 days ago, so there may well be further improvement. Though his cancer is stage 4 and incurable, so we don't expect any miracles.


Also to mention:
We know the steroids are essential with MSCC.
However, the steroids are having a mega effect on his sleep. Even with the current reducing dosages as he's weaned back off them.
He's simply not sleeping - more than a couple of hours a night! (and awake all day).
It's now 6am and he's still awake upstairs. Been awake all night, as far as I know.
This is all despite taking 2 sleeping tablets a night since Tuesday - as prescribed by local GP we went to see.


We have an appointment with his oncologist on 6th Jan, so will see what his take is on it.
Don't yet know what to think of him as we've only seen him a very small handful of times since hubby was diagnosed in Feb 2024. 
He's mainly been having 6-monthly phone appointments with specialist urology nurses.
Incidentally, his PSA reached a nadir in June 2024 but that hasn't seemed to have raised alarm bells.
That said, they perhaps feel there wouldn't be much they can do - as apalutamide reacted really badly with him (one pill in May 2024) and he understandably doesn't want to go back on it.


He's been on 3-monthly prostap injections since diagnosis. (Till the last injection, they were being administered intramuscular - in error. That was picked up on with last phone consultation with specialist nurse back in August. So last injection (November) was administered subcutaneously, as directed by oncology/urology departments).


Not really asking for advice here - as much as anything wanted to raise two facts in one go, that may be important and helpful to others.
1)  The free Macmillan MSCC kit. (see link at start of this monologue).
2)   If on 3 monthly prostap injections - make sure it's administered subcutanously not intramuscular. If you have access to your medical records, this will be recorded each time the injection is administered - probably using abbreviations. (We just didn't know to check!).


 

Edited by member 29 Dec 2025 at 06:46  | Reason: Factually incorrect regarding the prostap injections.

Christine

User
Posted 28 Dec 2025 at 10:55
OMG the incompetence is simply shocking...
User
Posted 28 Dec 2025 at 12:51

Quote "Not really asking for advice here - as much as anything wanted to raise two facts in one go, that may be important and helpful to others.


1) The free Macmillan MSCC kit. (see link at start of this monologue).


2) If on 3 monthly prostap injections - make sure it's administered subcutanously (for slow release) not intravenously (for quick release). If you have access to your medical records, this will be recorded each time the injection is administered - probably using initials. (We just didn't know to check!).


Christine" 


 


 


 


Tendzin, did you mean it was injected intramuscular instead of subcutaneous. Being injected intravenously would appear to be a very major mistake.


My decapeptyl injection is slow release into the muscle, my previous zoladex injections were also slow release but subcutaneous. 


Thanks Chris 

Edited by member 28 Dec 2025 at 14:48  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 29 Dec 2025 at 06:33

I'm very sorry I did indeed mean that the prostap injection had previously been administered intramuscular in error (not intravenously in error!).
I've just checked - and ammended my post accordingly.
Very many thanks.
To clarify here - in August this year, his specialist nurse was disturbed to see that the injection had been administered intramuscular since it was begun in March 2024 and not according to instructions. She wrote:
'I note on the GP record the Prostap has been given intramuscular and not subcutaneous. The 3/12 Prostap is only licensed for S/C administration for Prostate cancer. I have explained this to Mr X and reassured him I will inform the GP surgery...'

Edited by member 29 Dec 2025 at 06:43  | Reason: Not specified

Christine

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Posted 30 Dec 2025 at 18:53
Dear Tendzin (and those preceding who reported on MSCC),
I'm so sorry you went through this but I am extremely grateful to you for posting. It heightened my awareness and others I'm certain as well. Hope things improve post-RT. And wish you the best for the new year. Thanks again.
 
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