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Getting mr to change his diet

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Posted 04 Oct 2019 at 02:23

Hi

My husband is 59. He was diagnosed two months ago and had robotic radical prostatectomy 11 days ago. We got the his-pathology report yesterday. Gleason score has remained 7 (3+4) tumour is T2c not b. Stage 2 with no lymph node or seminal vessel involvement . It was confined to prostate & all margins are clear but there was Perineural invasion so surgeon said regular checkups are the norm. We live in a S.east Asian country and have private healthcare. I am terrified of reoccurrence and would like hubby to make changes to diet and lifestyle. He is very resistant and thinks I am curbing his life . It doesn’t help that I have a 89 year old in-law living with me who doesn’t know about the situation and thinks I am crazy with all my diet & exercise mumbo-jumbo. Any advice is welcome . Hubby spoke to a friend to had the sane procedure in USA early this year and has made no changes to his diet . I don’t know if that’s true  

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Posted 04 Oct 2019 at 19:15
It’s never too late to make more effort to exercise for anyone is it ? But as for diet we all hear one hundred things a day , but not a single medical professional has ever given me diet advice since my surgery. The latest trend is that it is now fine to eat red and processed meat despite years of slagging it off. And the great margarine and butter debate. Everything in moderation ......

If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade

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Posted 04 Oct 2019 at 22:19

We don't know what his lifestyle is.

It's likely there is only a slight chance a diet could help with your husbands case and that could depend on what his current lifestyle is.

If he is overweight, drinks to excess, eats a lot of fat or sugar and takes no exercise then it is likely changes will improve his health which could help if his cancer tries to come back and it might be something no-one will ever be able to prove.

I eat a fairly healthy diet and exercise a lot although it's not easy to resist those temptations.   I have cut back a lot on alcohol and cheese and milk.  Although I hope I haven't still got it.

If you're the cook I'd suggest gradual change if it's needed and perhaps more walking as a start.

User
Posted 11 Oct 2019 at 10:07

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
... and thinks I am crazy with all my diet & exercise mumbo-jumbo

There's food for thought, right there.

Your husband has enough on his plate with PCa without having to be pressured every day about his food as well!

Sure, he'll live longer if he eats 'healthier'. But you cannot magic cancer away with food. It ain't gonna happen. More fruit and veg may well help his bowels and reduce the risks of problems down the line. It will also help reduce the risk of heart disease (as will reducing fat and dairy). But treating cancer with diet IS mumbo-jumbo.

Leave the poor man alone. Work with him, not against him.

Edited by member 11 Oct 2019 at 10:09  | Reason: tidied up a little!

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Posted 04 Oct 2019 at 18:38
There is no research to suggest that diet would make any difference at all to a man who has had his prostate removed. If he had changed his diet before puberty, that might have been different.
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 04 Oct 2019 at 19:15
It’s never too late to make more effort to exercise for anyone is it ? But as for diet we all hear one hundred things a day , but not a single medical professional has ever given me diet advice since my surgery. The latest trend is that it is now fine to eat red and processed meat despite years of slagging it off. And the great margarine and butter debate. Everything in moderation ......

If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade

User
Posted 04 Oct 2019 at 22:19

We don't know what his lifestyle is.

It's likely there is only a slight chance a diet could help with your husbands case and that could depend on what his current lifestyle is.

If he is overweight, drinks to excess, eats a lot of fat or sugar and takes no exercise then it is likely changes will improve his health which could help if his cancer tries to come back and it might be something no-one will ever be able to prove.

I eat a fairly healthy diet and exercise a lot although it's not easy to resist those temptations.   I have cut back a lot on alcohol and cheese and milk.  Although I hope I haven't still got it.

If you're the cook I'd suggest gradual change if it's needed and perhaps more walking as a start.

User
Posted 10 Oct 2019 at 16:27

All the reading I've done supports what Lyn says below. There is a lot of evidence that men living in, for example, rural China have a very low rate of prostate cancer and that diet is a big factor in that. But it's a huge leap from acknowledging that fact to saying that a rural Chinese diet can reverse a cancer that has already occurred or stop it recurring. The damage was done years ago and many other factors may also be in play.

He has just gone through major surgery and he might want to hold on to what he enjoys. Moderation in all things sounds trite but it's probably spot on for us prostate cancer sufferers.

 

User
Posted 11 Oct 2019 at 10:07

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
... and thinks I am crazy with all my diet & exercise mumbo-jumbo

There's food for thought, right there.

Your husband has enough on his plate with PCa without having to be pressured every day about his food as well!

Sure, he'll live longer if he eats 'healthier'. But you cannot magic cancer away with food. It ain't gonna happen. More fruit and veg may well help his bowels and reduce the risks of problems down the line. It will also help reduce the risk of heart disease (as will reducing fat and dairy). But treating cancer with diet IS mumbo-jumbo.

Leave the poor man alone. Work with him, not against him.

Edited by member 11 Oct 2019 at 10:09  | Reason: tidied up a little!

.

-- Andrew --

"I intend to live forever, or die trying" - Groucho Marx

User
Posted 11 Oct 2019 at 16:31

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Heenan73;224878

Leave the poor man alone. Work with him, not against him.

I would tend to agree. If as a family you all wish to be healthier then yes take steps to improve your diet/ fitness but very gradually and don't single your husband out especially. Certainly as others have said you don't want to be stressing him out when he only had his operation a few days ago. He will need time to heal physically and emotionally before even thinking about any fitness drive.

I understand where you are coming from though when you say you are terrified of recurrence, I think most of us are to be honest but as others have said diet is unlikely to make any significant difference whether it does or not. It seems like a lottery to me from reading folks bio's on here. 

Best regards

Ann

 

 

User
Posted 11 Oct 2019 at 16:59

Just to add, his body will need more than normal during the healing process. A balanced diet is good to make sure everything required is available to the body, and also make sure there's plenty of protein to rebuild muscle damage.

 
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