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I feel dumped and on my own

User
Posted 22 Nov 2019 at 20:59

I have prostrate Cancer and started the first 3 months of HT , but to me after all the scans , PSA level tests and biopsies , i fell dumped at home with a load of read me documents , i`am angry especially at the level of None Primary Care which i have to plan and initiate, to me all that should be Automatic and not have to be done by the patient, for me even the Hospital should do more simple PSA Level tests are just one , why is the responsibility  put on me to do it , i have complications with Gastro Reflux which HT makes worse , bone pain Osteoarthritis which HT makes worse, part segmental Dystonia , heart problems which HT makes worse , Sleep ? well not much

So all in all this last few days has been my worst so far , cannot do my hobbies cycling and playing in a band because of Gastro Reflux , Chest Bone Pain , no response from Gastroenterology , typical  auto email reply from the secretary , i will be away indefinately = BS ? how can that be true.

All this to me adds up to a breack down of Primary Care and very little response from Urology , but i tell you what the fight back is on they are going to get letters from me untill they listen up , this is not ON 

User
Posted 23 Nov 2019 at 00:36
it is really difficult to understand your post but it seems that you are under a number of different specialists? Your GP should be pulling everything together for you, I think, including some pain relief for your osteo-arthritis. Not sure what you mean about having to sort things out yourself - it is perfectly normal for men to arrange a PSA test at the GP practice and if you are also having your hormone injection there, the two could perhaps be done at the same time? I guess if hospitals had to work out when a patient's PSA test was due and then give an appointment for it, there would be no time for them to do the important things like surgery and radiotherapy.

I am sorry that you are on your own dealing with this. Were you allocated a named urology nurse when you were diagnosed?

Perhaps the secretary is seriously ill. Try calling the hospital and asking for the general number for gastroenterology, or look it up online.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 23 Nov 2019 at 14:38

The post imo was sell explicit , I have to arrange all HT injections and every thing else , my GP does not even Auto renew B12 injections , I go to GP`s ask for a prescription , it is then wired to the chemist , I have book a date and time at my Gp`s for a nurse to do the B12 Injection, I pick up the prescription on that day and go the my GP`s to get the injection , this routine has applied to all treatment for Prostrate Cancer,

1 = make appointments at my GP for all these

1=  go to the GP book an ECG at the Hospital to check the Q interval of the heart. go to the Hospital to have it

2= go to the GP ask for Decapetyl hormone treatment 3 months prescription , book a day time to have the injection

pick up the treatment of my way there.

3= PSA Blood test same as above

That's what I call Self Primary Care the Hospital hands over all that to the GP after all the tests biopsies and only do the first 28 day hormone treatment

 

User
Posted 23 Nov 2019 at 14:50
Yes, frustrating but I think that almost all the men on here that need PSA tests and / or hormone treatment and / or need other regular tests have to do this stuff themselves.
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 23 Nov 2019 at 15:04

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Yes, frustrating but I think that almost all the men on here that need PSA tests and / or hormone treatment and / or need other regular tests have to do this stuff themselves.

Yes thanks but in a previous post you said " your GP should be pulling every thing together for you "

that`s how it should be

 

User
Posted 23 Nov 2019 at 15:55

Hi, I may be missing something but all my psa tests and checks have been done at the hospital and they call me in. 

I deliberately didn't want to go to the GP because they aren't as organised.  I like my GP but they do expect you to contact them.

I don't know about hormone or B12 injections but unlike the hospital it will be a big job for a GP to store medical supplies they hardly use or arrange a just in time system for each patient.

I don't know how you got to be using your GP but perhaps you should ask for hospital appointments.

User
Posted 23 Nov 2019 at 16:13

Great response, LynEyre. It's called 'taking some responsibility for your own health'.

User
Posted 23 Nov 2019 at 17:00
I think you are in a very small minority Peter - almost everyone has their HT at the local GP practice.

There are two common patterns:-

- either the patient makes his 3 monthly / 12 weekly appointment, the nurse requests a repeat prescription from the doctor, orders in the injection a couple of days before and keeps it in his / her fridge until needed; or

- the patient picks up a repeat prescription from the chemist, takes it to the appointment and hands it to the nurse to administer

In some places, the GP administers the injection rather than a nurse. At our practice, the nurse is a prescribing nurse and can write the prescription herself.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 23 Nov 2019 at 17:03

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Yes, frustrating but I think that almost all the men on here that need PSA tests and / or hormone treatment and / or need other regular tests have to do this stuff themselves.

Yes thanks but in a previous post you said " your GP should be pulling every thing together for you "

that`s how it should be

 

 

Sorry Argon, I meant with making sure that you have pain relief, giving you something for the reflux, or writing to gastroenterology because you need a new or review appointment. 

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 23 Nov 2019 at 17:34
Hi,

I have 3 monthly check ups at a Cancer Centre. I arrange my next appointment before I leave. I also order my own Decapeptyl, pick it up from the pharmacy and arrange a date to have it administered. The same goes for my PSA blood test; arranged by me at the local medical centre. I never expected it to be any other way and certainly don’t feel hard done by having to do it myself, in fact I think prefer it that way.

Dave

User
Posted 23 Nov 2019 at 19:32
I too organise my general 3 monthly checks, the PSA tests, (now 6 monthly,) my 3 weekly testosterone injections to get me to a normal level, and my 3 monthly B12 injections. I am able to order repeat prescriptions on line through the Practice and also appointment bookings and to check test results. My Dr also texts me some results as he knows I get anxious. I use a calendar specifically for all this and usually feel quite Organised. Best wishes.
User
Posted 24 Nov 2019 at 00:34

There can be minor differences in the way things work locally. My GP has on file a request from my treating hospital that my PSA is checked every 3 months. I just tell the GP's receptionist when I would like it done and the receptionist arranges a suitable time with the Phlebotomist. I do have to present at the surgery to obtain the result which will only be given to me after having been seen by my GP.
I much prefer this to having to go to London from Devon each time which apart from obvious logistical draw back means I would have to rely on UCLH who have made numerous mistakes with my appointments. It was agreed that unless I am required to present in London for follow ups for tests/scans my general check ups would be by a telephone call to my home number. However, when the letter with the appointment arrived it said I should attend at Westmoreland Street and be prepared for tests etc. with details of how to get there appended. So not wanting to be caught out, I rang the Consultant's Secretary who said, no its just a telephone appointment. (This has happened several times). I am told they have no way of changing this and I will probably receive a reminder nearer the time that once again says I should present in London but ignore it. During a trial I took part in at UCLH in 2015, they booked me in for two scans in two different buildings at overlapping times and both being nuclear scans they should not have been on the same day anyway. Excellent clinical staff and treatment but poor admin. So I much prefer using my local GP surgery for routine PSA tests.

Edited by member 24 Nov 2019 at 04:25  | Reason: Not specified

Barry
User
Posted 24 Nov 2019 at 19:45

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Great response, LynEyre. It's called 'taking some responsibility for your own health'.

Or it means a a breack down of Primary Care imo

User
Posted 24 Nov 2019 at 19:53

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Hi, I may be missing something but all my psa tests and checks have been done at the hospital and they call me in. 

I deliberately didn't want to go to the GP because they aren't as organised.  I like my GP but they do expect you to contact them.

I don't know about hormone or B12 injections but unlike the hospital it will be a big job for a GP to store medical supplies they hardly use or arrange a just in time system for each patient.

I don't know how you got to be using your GP but perhaps you should ask for hospital appointments.

thanks for the reply but you are lucky , for me the Hospital administers the first 28 days of Hormone therapy only , they then hand the care back to Primary care which is my GP and that is for all tests , PSA Levels, 3 monthly Hormone treatment, heart function test for Q interval and there`s more  at my GP there is no Auto renewal of any treatments mentioned above and including  the B12 injection , I have to prompt or ask for each one  when it is due.

This is the Hospital passing the costs back on to my GP as the hormone treatment drug Decapeptyl is very expensive , i did ask for the Hospital to do these things but a secretary i spoke to said No , but that has given me an idea , i will go over her head straight to the top, i`am a member of another help group and a guy there has done this many times , so i will try it  , they are going to have to do some thing as i`am suffering from a lot of the side effects mentioned on the medication leaflet .

 

 

Edited by member 24 Nov 2019 at 20:28  | Reason: more information

User
Posted 24 Nov 2019 at 22:25
Just worth noting that one of the key reasons for hospitals handing the prescribing of regular meds back to the GP is because the needs to come out of the GP's budget. It is the same with ED treatment; in many areas, the ED nurse or surgeon recommends a vacuum pump but the GP has to agree to write the prescription because the cost will fall to him / her. That's years of politicians messing with our national health service, for you.
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

 
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