I'm interested in conversations about and I want to talk about
Know exactly what you want?
Show search

Notification

Error

Invicorp research and tricks

User
Posted 31 Jul 2021 at 15:16

Hi people!

I'm starting this thread to share and collect information and research about Invicorp. I am particularly interested in the time interval between two shots of Invicorp and the risk of getting priapism.

As I'm not in a relationship, the time interval of 24 hours (or 48 hours, more on this later) between shots is a bit too long for a romantic encounter with a woman you meet for the first time. If it is safe to use Invicorp two times with 4-6 hours between the shots, it would make a big difference to me. The scenario would typically be to have sex early in the evening at a hotel, then go out for dinner, then have sex late evening before you go to sleep. Perhaps even one more time the morning after.

I have seen two different requirements of time interval in official medical documentation. 24 hours in one, and 48 hours in another. Both had max 3 shots per week.

My gut feeling tells me that these time intervals are a bit random and not based on solid scientific data as it is hard to find any medical data or statistics on the subject. At the same time, I recognize that priapism is a serious condition with potentially devastating consequences and there is a risk to experiment with parameters not recommended by the doctor.

There is a study involving 51 men using Invicorp that touches slightly on the topic of Invicorp and priapism that can be downloaded here:
https://in.booksc.eu/book/84593881/0218ec

(Not sure why there are some words in Hindi on the download page, but the study is a PDF in English.)

Please share if you have any personal experience or medical data on this topic.

I will also share some practical tips&tricks for the use of Invicorp in this thread later, but I don't want my first post to be too long. Cheers from Norway!

User
Posted 31 Jul 2021 at 22:22

John had a priapism once and would never, ever want to go through it again. He has had invicorp for a year or so, having previously used Caverject, and would possibly use it two days in a row but then not again that week. He never uses it at bedtime; 2am at A&E with no urologist on call is no fun. Taking it twice within 6 hours is madness, I think - not just because of priapism but the other effects it can have on your body. 

Could you not use the Invicorp early evening, go out for your meal and still be functioning when you get back? 

Edited by member 31 Jul 2021 at 22:35  | Reason: Not specified

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 31 Jul 2021 at 23:04
In my early days after surgery ( one year ) Invicorp25 was a game changer. I’d tried all the pills and other injections to varying degrees of success. I looked it up myself and bought online. Whilst I was using it I was also on daily low dose 5mg Tadalafil. This kept things ticking over down there and some morning wood and helped with vacuum pump efficacy. I only used Invicorp25 for a nice monthly date night. Lovely lunch in a restaurant and back up to the room for music and champagne. Simple job in the bathroom and within minutes I was up for two good sessions with half an hour gap. You shouldn’t really mix meds but I didn’t stop the daily Tadalafil. I must admit I was getting plenty of flushing and raised heartbeat , but when your lady is waiting …..

Quite often I found in the morning that he was up for it again even if I wasn’t. Maybe needed the simple cock ring on to ensure the deal. I’ve never had a priapism ever. I think sound advice is once per 24 hrs but a max of 3 per week. Spacing it is surely better ! But yes it works and at your own risk add some Tadalafil. This was always known as the Weekender as it was famous keeping things stirred for at least 48 hours. Go with your instinct gently gently.

User
Posted 02 Aug 2021 at 12:55

Hi LynEyre, thanks for your reply. You asked "Could you not use the Invicorp early evening, go out for your meal and still be functioning when you get back?"

I could be wrong, but I don't think it lasts more than an hour according to the medical documentation. I have only tried it once with a nurse showing me how to use it. It was turned on after 10-15 minutes and turned off after about an hour like a light switch. I did not experience a "semi-effect" the following hours. I think most of the chemicals are simply gone after approx 1 hour. Cheers!

User
Posted 02 Aug 2021 at 13:08

Thanks for your reply Chris J. I will probably experiment carefully with Tadalafil and Invicorp and see how it works. I hope I'm not limited to a one-hour window on my first dates. You don't want to explain all this stuff when you get to know someone for the first time. I will certainly take a discreet trip to the bathroom and not pull out needles in front of a woman I'm just starting to getting to know 😂

User
Posted 02 Aug 2021 at 13:57
Well good luck to you lol. I think many women will happily settle for a quality hour 😉

You can buy boxes of special alcohol wipes at the chemist to use before and after the injection. Obviously be aware that you don’t want to be bleeding with a new partner

User
Posted 02 Aug 2021 at 15:48

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Hi LynEyre, thanks for your reply. You asked "Could you not use the Invicorp early evening, go out for your meal and still be functioning when you get back?"

I could be wrong, but I don't think it lasts more than an hour according to the medical documentation. I have only tried it once with a nurse showing me how to use it. It was turned on after 10-15 minutes and turned off after about an hour like a light switch. I did not experience a "semi-effect" the following hours. I think most of the chemicals are simply gone after approx 1 hour. Cheers!

That is incorrect. John can sometimss get an erection, have intercourse, orgasm, have a sleep and then rise to the occasion again later if he is particularly in the mood. The chemicals stay in the body for hours; that is presumably why you must have a 24 hour gap between injections ... so that you don't OD

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 02 Aug 2021 at 15:54

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Thanks for your reply Chris J. I will probably experiment carefully with Tadalafil and Invicorp and see how it works. I hope I'm not limited to a one-hour window on my first dates. You don't want to explain all this stuff when you get to know someone for the first time. I will certainly take a discreet trip to the bathroom and not pull out needles in front of a woman I'm just starting to getting to know 😂

Personally, I think it would be inappropriate and a little dishonest not to set out the situation before you take a new partner to a hotel and / or for a meal. The longer you go without saying anything, the harder it will be to find the right time and if I was faced with a new partner saying after a couple of months "oh by the way, I have something to tell you" I would feel a bit hoodwinked or misled. 

Apart from anything else, if you haven't explained beforehand and then the invicorp fails you on the day, it could be excruciating trying to explain why nothing is happening. 

My dad has met two new partners since my mum died and in both cases, explained about the cancer and needing injections long before there was any chance of getting into bed. 

Edited by member 02 Aug 2021 at 15:56  | Reason: Not specified

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 03 Aug 2021 at 10:36

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

The chemicals stay in the body for hours; that is presumably why you must have a 24-hour gap between injections ... so that you don't OD

Thanks again, Lyn.

Do you have any medical documentation of this other than the 24-hour rule that comes with the product instructions?

I think the medication is inserted directly into the penis because it works locally. When the blood distributes the medicine to the rest of the body, it makes sense that it will be diluted to a tiny fraction.

I could be wrong, but the theory that Invicorp "stays in the body" with any relevant effect after the 1 hour period makes no sense to me. But I think the mechanical process of having an erection may have positive side effects on blood vessels, psychology etc that can last longer.

User
Posted 03 Aug 2021 at 18:55
Yeah okay, I will bow to your expertise on this
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 04 Aug 2021 at 10:51

I find with Invicorp that I have a strict one hour window of opportunity, no matter how sexually aroused I am.  A bit like Cinderella having to get back before midnight.

Invicorp is the only medication that has worked for me.  On waiting list for a penile implant

User
Posted 04 Aug 2021 at 14:26

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

I find with Invicorp that I have a strict one hour window of opportunity, no matter how sexually aroused I am.  A bit like Cinderella having to get back before midnight.

Nice Cinderella metaphor lol. But yes, this is why I don't trust the recommended 24-hour waiting period. I don't think the pharmacists have done any study on the time intervals between shots and priapism. They just put 24 hours for good measure.

If anyone has broken the 24-hour rule, I would appreciate hearing about your experience. Did you get priapism? Did you get longer than a one-hour erection? Or did you get two distinct one-hour windows from each of the shots?

Cheers!

PS. Did some research for cooling options when traveling. Sometimes hotels don't have a fridge, the fridge is broken or the fridge is old and not cold enough. And very often, they don't have a freezer to freeze a cooling element before you leave the hotel. This newly-released bad boy can create fridge temperatures (2°-8° C) from electricity alone. Perhaps you need a couple of power banks for air travel. Link:
https://4allfamily.com/collections/diabetic-organizers-travel-kits/products/portable-medical-fridge-usb-insulin-medicines

User
Posted 04 Aug 2021 at 15:15
Hi again , I think you are missing the point that the medication doesn’t just cause erections. It’s active ingredients can affect other parts of the body in different ways. It’s not just about priapism. As stated in my earlier posts I definitely used to get a rush of blood and heart palpitations when I used it ( ok I was on daily Cialis also ) so it can affect heart and blood pressure I assume etc.

So they are not just worried about you getting the boner from hell 😆 , they are worried about other bodily effects !

User
Posted 04 Aug 2021 at 15:26

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Hi again , I think you are missing the point that the medication doesn’t just cause erections. It’s active ingredients can affect other parts of the body in different ways. It’s not just about priapism. As stated in my earlier posts I definitely used to get a rush of blood and heart palpitations when I used it ( ok I was on daily Cialis also ) so it can affect heart and blood pressure I assume etc.
So they are not just worried about you getting the boner from hell 😆 , they are worried about other bodily effects !

Right, that's a good point. Are these side effects dangerous or can they cause permanent harm like priapism, or are they just uncomfortable? Cheers!

User
Posted 04 Aug 2021 at 15:38
Not an expert but if you google Invicorp25 patient leaflet I’m sure it will all be there for. Remember ALL PDH5 tablets carry a warning for people with heart disease not to use them for good reason. I used maybe 15 Invicorp over a year and on one occasion I must admit my heart was pounding like a hammer whilst I was ‘on the job ‘ ! It did quite frighten me and I was as red as a berry ( my face that is ) . I suggest you just read the advice. Many of us have mixed drugs at our own risk with varying amounts of success over the years. It’s your choice to go against advice at the end of the day I suppose. But good luck anyway and be careful.
User
Posted 04 Aug 2021 at 15:48

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Not an expert but if you google Invicorp25 patient leaflet I’m sure it will all be there for. Remember ALL PDH5 tablets carry a warning for people with heart disease not to use them for good reason. I used maybe 15 Invicorp over a year and on one occasion I must admit my heart was pounding like a hammer whilst I was ‘on the job ‘ ! It did quite frighten me and I was as red as a berry ( my face that is ) . I suggest you just read the advice. Many of us have mixed drugs at our own risk with varying amounts of success over the years. It’s your choice to go against advice at the end of the day I suppose. But good luck anyway and be careful.

Thanks again. I just read the leaflet, and found this:

Quote:
Mild transient flushing of the face or trunk occurs commonly. In rare cases this is associated with discomfort and abnormal heart beat or rapid pulse. If you experience an abnormal heart beat or a rapid pulse, you should stop taking Invicorp.

User
Posted 04 Aug 2021 at 16:52

I was just about to type a comment, but Chris has beat me to it with the very point I was going to make. Yes the drug probably spends about an hour near your penis doing what you want it to do, and then dissipates around your body, doing things you don't want it to do (side effects) probably until your kidneys remove it after 24 hours.

So yes, if you want four hardons in a day great, but you would have about four times as much of this drug floating around your body than the manufacturer considers safe. 

Dave

 
Forum Jump  
©2024 Prostate Cancer UK