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Posted 22 May 2022 at 07:01

A bit of background: I’m 50 and am a part owner of a small and growing business. I’m expecting to have RP surgery (just waiting for results of PSMA PET scan that I had on Thursday). I’m hoping surgery will remove the cancer, job done, as I expect the scan will show wear and tear from running rather than anything more sinister. So, a few questions…


What are others’ experiences of working prior to surgery - do you just carry on as if nothing has happened? And after surgery, assuming it goes to plan, do people go straight back to work (I can work from home)?


My diagnosis could have been a lot more serious so I count myself lucky. But I still struggle to maintain focus at work and have found myself prioritising other things, rather than working all hours as I used to. I really don’t want to let my business partners down and know they are sympathetic so should I just ‘get a grip’ and treat this disease like one would with other routine surgery?


I realise that every story will be different so great to hear your thoughts.


Thanks all,


Nick

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Posted 22 May 2022 at 09:31
A cancer diagnosis, particularly if it comes completely out of the blue like prostate cancer usually does, is a huge mental shock. I must admit that I found it all pretty tough to deal with. I'd say it's entirely normal to find yourself unable to focus on work. Cancer makes you reevaluate what the important things in life are, and certainly for me work wasn't terribly high on the list. Not many people say on their deathbed, "If only I'd spent more time in the office!"

You'll probably find things get a lot easier once you've had your full diagnosis and treatment is all arranged - most people do.

As far as work after surgery goes, it is major abdominal surgery and it takes quite a while to get over. Reckon on having at LEAST two weeks off work, even if you do work from home, and a minimum of six weeks before you can drive. To get anywhere near "back to normal" took me three months, and six months before I was doing strenuous activities again.

Very best wishes,

Chris
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Posted 26 May 2022 at 11:20

Hi Gee Oke. I work in IT and was a contractor though I am now a partner in a small firm. IR35 levels the playing field all the permits pay 50% tax it is just disguised as NI. Pre IR35 I was more than happy to sacrifice job security for more cash, and would still do so when legal.


I agree about not wanting fuss or sympathy. Fortunately for me, I was able to use my dark sense of humour to cause people to laugh at my cancer rather than give it the dignity a disease like cancer does not deserve.


I am very open about having PCa. The more that future victims of this disease see that PCa is a normal part of growing old and it can be dealth with the better.

Dave

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Posted 22 May 2022 at 10:42

Sound advice by Chris when I mentioned it before I started my treatment doctor said look after yourself first they will always be working when we are all gone including me I went the rt/ht route and managed to work all the way through treatment so far so good 13months after rt  take as much time as you need they will understand it will also make the recovery quicker 👍

Edited by member 22 May 2022 at 10:43  | Reason: Mistake

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Posted 22 May 2022 at 11:53

Nick, i was diagnosed in the December and waited until the end of April for a new Da Vinci Robot at our hospital. I just carried on working as normal, it was good to talk to colleagues and people I met through my work.


I was a contracts manager so lots of traveling and meeting but no real manual work. I was back behind my desk after five weeks and back on the road after seven weeks. 


Post op, long journeys usually needed a quick nap, especially on the way back home.


Hope all goes well.


Thanks Chris


 


 

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Posted 22 May 2022 at 14:45

Hi Nick 


I had ORP surgery just over 3 weeks ago.  I worked right up to the surgery date and I will probably take 10-12 weeks off for recovery but could possibly do 8 at a push.  By all accounts RARP tends to have a faster recovery so hopefully your recovery will be shorter.  


Either way you will probably be dealing with a catheter for 10-14 days post op and then trying to get incontinence under control after that.  Plus you will have ED issues to deal with.  For both of these you won't know what you are dealing with until post-op, so hard to predict.  On top of this you will be waiting for your histology report and first set of PSA results which are typically 6 weeks after your operation, earliest.  


Personally I'm treating the 6 weeks until I get my PSA results as pure recovery.  Everyone is different but I think I would find it hard to engage with work confidently with those results hanging over me.  After that I will see where I am regarding those results and also how the incontinence issue is progressing.  Hopefully at that point (all going well) I'll be able to start getting back to some sort of new normality and continuing to recover from there.


Hope that helps.  Very best of luck with your final PSMA scan, operation and everything that follows.  


 

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Posted 22 May 2022 at 20:49

Your body has lots of repairing to do after surgery. This can leave you significantly fatigued as the body pulls on all its resources to heal. Don't be surprised if, when you do start working, you might only manage an hour or so for first days, and then work up as you find you can.

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Posted 23 May 2022 at 12:45

You've had sincere and well intentioned advice, as is mine but with a different perspective.


I was back at work a few days after surgery very much on my Urologists's advice, albeit coming and going as my mind and body demanded. In retrospect, it was very much the right thing for me to do. 


Physical healing is of course the priority and for me, a comfortable chair at home is much the same as one in an office, but the mental element was much better dealt with by being as close to routine as possible. 


Some people's jobs will be the deciding factor of course, but so much of healing and recovery requires a mind/body alignment that isn't a 'one size fits all'. We share an anatomy but we're all different. Figure out what's right for you and do it.

User
Posted 23 May 2022 at 13:19

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


I’m now starting to pay attention to the gory details and what the aftermath might hold. Catheters, pipes, bags. Sounds like a barrel of laughs.



Nick look after your catheter and it will be you new best friend in the days after surgery. No getting up at night, no rushing to the toilet. Instilagel or hydrocaine help lubricate the surface and the anesthetic properties should relieve discomfort. 


Hope all goes well.


Thanks Chris

User
Posted 26 May 2022 at 04:06

I did my surgery on the 19th May, so today is 7days post surgery. I work in IT as a cloud solutiom architect freelance. I worked right up till a day before surgery. I feel bad and naughty for not mentioning my diagnosis at work and took the time off as leave! Nice stay at hotel UCLH! 


I have worked from home since the pandemic and hopefully will be back a day after the catheter is removed. Thankfully next week is a 2day week with the Queen's Jubilee!    Still unsure whether to come clean and mention my surgery and diagnosis..

User
Posted 26 May 2022 at 08:15

Just to add to what Chris said.  I drove last night for the first time since open surgery 4 weeks ago.  Just a 20 min trip each way to drop my daughter to a cricket match and felt fine.  


My external scar has just about healed (and still not 100%), so if one assumes internal wounds heal at a similar rate I can see why 3-4 weeks seems about right.  For those with RARP the external wounds would probably heal a lot quicker so might not be as obvious that there is still internal damage that needs a bit of time to heal.  

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Posted 26 May 2022 at 12:18

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Nick, as far as driving goes, the legal situation is that you can drive as soon as you're able to safely perform an emergency stop. 
Best wishes,

Chris


 


That's not quite right. It is true in the absence of any other stated guidance or position but:


- if the hospital provides a leaflet to patients (or has something on their website) stating a specific timescale, that applies even if you haven't read it or had your attention drawn to it. So if the hospital leaflet says two weeks but you decide after 10 days that you can do an emergency stop, your insurance is invalidated


- if the surgeon tells you that you can drive after 2 weeks, your insurance would be invalidated if you drove earlier, even if you feel on top of the world


- if your insurer has a policy of 4 weeks after abdominal surgery (as many do), you would invalidate your insurance by driving earlier, even if you felt fine and the surgeon said it would be okay after 2 weeks 


- if your insurer requires written confirmation from the surgeon or GP that you are fit to drive, you have to do so


The 4th situation was the one that John found himself in. With a company car, his employer's insurer required a letter from the surgeon to confirm J could drive but the surgeon refused to provide this as he said he had no way of knowing for sure. In the event, it took 12 weeks to sort out :-( 

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 26 May 2022 at 12:54

I see your point about the need for men to be frank and open about PCa. However, culturally, death and anything is a taboo subject (don't ask me why😃), you only hear within my Community after the disease has claimed another victim, even then, their ailments is usually cloak and dagger, friends and Family are none the wiser. Some within my Community think a faith healer can work miracles to make the issue disappear. Sadly many have lost their lives with this erroneous belief. No doubt, have a positive dispensation, at the same time trust the medics! I still struggle to use myself to my friends as an example, to get them to believe this pca is real and you could have it without symptoms..

User
Posted 26 May 2022 at 15:22

Hi Gee, I agree, it’s difficult to get men to understand that PCa can be present if there are no symptoms. I’m sure a lot of men would rather not know but of course in some cases, when they do see somebody about it, it’s then too late or treatment has become much more complex and arduous. 
In my case I had blood in my sperm, which I put down to a botched vasectomy. Good job the GP did a PSA test!


I too am not keen on fuss but like you and Dave, I talk about it to friends and colleagues and encourage them to get a test if they’re in the target market for it.


all the best, Nick

User
Posted 26 May 2022 at 16:15

Nick,


Sadly PSA screening en-masse apparently is off the table. It is controversial and is not always reflective of what is going on. It is quite conceivable to have low PSA (within acceptable range) and have PCa and also have high PSA and not have PCa. My younger brother had a PSA of 11, no PCa and a guy in hospital next to me had a PSA of 3.8 with PCa!  A researcher from UCLH, who wanted me to donate an extra sample for biopsy during my first biopsy informed me there is a new method at detection that is currently being trialled.

User
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Posted 27 May 2022 at 13:41

Hi Nick,


I had my RARP last October, I was then 60 now 61. With regards to work, I was told to expect not to work for 3-4 weeks post op. I went in for the operation on a Tuesday morning, home by 6pm the following evening; stayed in bed all day Thursday and sat at my home desk for a couple of hours Friday morning just answering emails etc.; I run my own architectural business. The following two weeks while the catheter was still in, I managed to work for at least 4 hours a day then back almost full time in week 3. Everyone is different, but if your job is not too taxing, its a damn site better than watching Steph's Packed Lunch! Good luck with the operation.


 

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Posted 22 May 2022 at 09:31
A cancer diagnosis, particularly if it comes completely out of the blue like prostate cancer usually does, is a huge mental shock. I must admit that I found it all pretty tough to deal with. I'd say it's entirely normal to find yourself unable to focus on work. Cancer makes you reevaluate what the important things in life are, and certainly for me work wasn't terribly high on the list. Not many people say on their deathbed, "If only I'd spent more time in the office!"

You'll probably find things get a lot easier once you've had your full diagnosis and treatment is all arranged - most people do.

As far as work after surgery goes, it is major abdominal surgery and it takes quite a while to get over. Reckon on having at LEAST two weeks off work, even if you do work from home, and a minimum of six weeks before you can drive. To get anywhere near "back to normal" took me three months, and six months before I was doing strenuous activities again.

Very best wishes,

Chris
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Posted 22 May 2022 at 10:42

Sound advice by Chris when I mentioned it before I started my treatment doctor said look after yourself first they will always be working when we are all gone including me I went the rt/ht route and managed to work all the way through treatment so far so good 13months after rt  take as much time as you need they will understand it will also make the recovery quicker 👍

Edited by member 22 May 2022 at 10:43  | Reason: Mistake

User
Posted 22 May 2022 at 11:53

Nick, i was diagnosed in the December and waited until the end of April for a new Da Vinci Robot at our hospital. I just carried on working as normal, it was good to talk to colleagues and people I met through my work.


I was a contracts manager so lots of traveling and meeting but no real manual work. I was back behind my desk after five weeks and back on the road after seven weeks. 


Post op, long journeys usually needed a quick nap, especially on the way back home.


Hope all goes well.


Thanks Chris


 


 

User
Posted 22 May 2022 at 14:45

Hi Nick 


I had ORP surgery just over 3 weeks ago.  I worked right up to the surgery date and I will probably take 10-12 weeks off for recovery but could possibly do 8 at a push.  By all accounts RARP tends to have a faster recovery so hopefully your recovery will be shorter.  


Either way you will probably be dealing with a catheter for 10-14 days post op and then trying to get incontinence under control after that.  Plus you will have ED issues to deal with.  For both of these you won't know what you are dealing with until post-op, so hard to predict.  On top of this you will be waiting for your histology report and first set of PSA results which are typically 6 weeks after your operation, earliest.  


Personally I'm treating the 6 weeks until I get my PSA results as pure recovery.  Everyone is different but I think I would find it hard to engage with work confidently with those results hanging over me.  After that I will see where I am regarding those results and also how the incontinence issue is progressing.  Hopefully at that point (all going well) I'll be able to start getting back to some sort of new normality and continuing to recover from there.


Hope that helps.  Very best of luck with your final PSMA scan, operation and everything that follows.  


 

Edited by member 22 May 2022 at 14:49  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 22 May 2022 at 20:40

Thanks everyone. I’ve been in a weird sort of limbo since the first flush of tests at the start of the year, then diagnosis at the start of March (the PET is to rule out something rather than confirm a spread, I think). With no symptoms it’s very easy to forget about it or even verge on denial. Then, sometimes it hits you in the face. So I’m trying to keep things in perspective and your experiences and plans really help.


I’m now starting to pay attention to the gory details and what the aftermath might hold. Catheters, pipes, bags. Sounds like a barrel of laughs. The Royal Marines have try to be ‘cheerful in the face of adversity’ so I reckon if I stick to that then things will work out ok.

Thanks again


Nick

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Posted 22 May 2022 at 20:49

Your body has lots of repairing to do after surgery. This can leave you significantly fatigued as the body pulls on all its resources to heal. Don't be surprised if, when you do start working, you might only manage an hour or so for first days, and then work up as you find you can.

User
Posted 23 May 2022 at 12:45

You've had sincere and well intentioned advice, as is mine but with a different perspective.


I was back at work a few days after surgery very much on my Urologists's advice, albeit coming and going as my mind and body demanded. In retrospect, it was very much the right thing for me to do. 


Physical healing is of course the priority and for me, a comfortable chair at home is much the same as one in an office, but the mental element was much better dealt with by being as close to routine as possible. 


Some people's jobs will be the deciding factor of course, but so much of healing and recovery requires a mind/body alignment that isn't a 'one size fits all'. We share an anatomy but we're all different. Figure out what's right for you and do it.

User
Posted 23 May 2022 at 13:19

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


I’m now starting to pay attention to the gory details and what the aftermath might hold. Catheters, pipes, bags. Sounds like a barrel of laughs.



Nick look after your catheter and it will be you new best friend in the days after surgery. No getting up at night, no rushing to the toilet. Instilagel or hydrocaine help lubricate the surface and the anesthetic properties should relieve discomfort. 


Hope all goes well.


Thanks Chris

User
Posted 23 May 2022 at 22:23

Thanks, I don’t know how I’m going to feel afterwards. So just doing what’s right at the time sounds like good advice. It’s a bit like when your wife has your first baby - plans don’t survive reality!


cheers


Nick

User
Posted 23 May 2022 at 22:25

Thanks Chris. All this is new to me so advice gratefully received. 


cheers


Nick

User
Posted 23 May 2022 at 22:57
Great advice by jellies. Whilst I can’t answer the question re going back to work, I hope this helps. My oh is 9 weeks post op and the first 10-14 days were the toughest for him whilst catheter was in. He felt so much better when it was removed. Don’t underestimate the surgery, no matter how fit you are. It’s major and intricate, everything has to settle down once it’s been moved around, together with swelling and internal bruising that has to go down. In weeks 3 and 4 no 2 days were the same for him, some days he felt fabulous and others very fatigued. He was back driving short distances. It really is about listening to your body, progressing slowly, finding out what your limitations are without putting yourself back. Don’t rush your recovery, it’s so important you give your body time to heal. Do the exercises religiously and do what the experts tell you to do. They are specialists in their field. Wishing you well. X
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Posted 24 May 2022 at 06:25

Thanks Jayney.


interesting to hear your oh was driving so soon. I know another thread has covered this a bit, but did he need a letter from his doctor to say it was ok?


I hope his recovery continues well.


Nick

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Posted 24 May 2022 at 15:37

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


Thanks Jayney.


interesting to hear your oh was driving so soon. I know another thread has covered this a bit, but did he need a letter from his doctor to say it was ok?


I hope his recovery continues well.


Nick



Hi Nick. Surgeon advised driving at 3 weeks but he didn’t feel ready and was still quite sore so he waited another week. Just short distances. Golf at 6 weeks - he played 9 holes and then walked 3 and built it up from there. He’s now back playing 18 holes and walking the 6 or so miles, 3 times a week. Afternoon naps are compulsory btw 🤣 I totally understand your urgency and reasons to get back to work but your recovery is vital not just in the short term, but long term too. You can’t rush it. X


 

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Posted 26 May 2022 at 04:06

I did my surgery on the 19th May, so today is 7days post surgery. I work in IT as a cloud solutiom architect freelance. I worked right up till a day before surgery. I feel bad and naughty for not mentioning my diagnosis at work and took the time off as leave! Nice stay at hotel UCLH! 


I have worked from home since the pandemic and hopefully will be back a day after the catheter is removed. Thankfully next week is a 2day week with the Queen's Jubilee!    Still unsure whether to come clean and mention my surgery and diagnosis..

User
Posted 26 May 2022 at 06:18

Thanks Gee. I have been in the office as much as possible even during the pandemic so have been around people. I wanted to tell them so they understood when I went for scans and mainly so we could all prepare for when I’m not there, post op. 
it also meant that I had people to talk to about it other than family and friends if I wanted to. They often have gone through difficult times and offer words of wisdom. 


I don’t know your employment status but you will be entitled to sick leave if an employee I would have thought. There will be others on here with a better grip on this than me. But if it was me then I might tell your line manager or boss and take advantage of their support and the leave days. 


good luck with whatever you decide.


Nick

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Posted 26 May 2022 at 07:19
Nick, as far as driving goes, the legal situation is that you can drive as soon as you're able to safely perform an emergency stop. I had similar surgery to an RP and live alone. I was driving to the village supermarket in my 4th week after surgery, but didn't venture further afield until 6 weeks after surgery. The first longer journey I did was a 45 minute drive and I felt very sore by the end of it - it was perhaps too soon. You don't realise how much you use your abdominal muscles to press the pedals!

Best wishes,

Chris
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Posted 26 May 2022 at 08:15

Just to add to what Chris said.  I drove last night for the first time since open surgery 4 weeks ago.  Just a 20 min trip each way to drop my daughter to a cricket match and felt fine.  


My external scar has just about healed (and still not 100%), so if one assumes internal wounds heal at a similar rate I can see why 3-4 weeks seems about right.  For those with RARP the external wounds would probably heal a lot quicker so might not be as obvious that there is still internal damage that needs a bit of time to heal.  

User
Posted 26 May 2022 at 09:17

Thanks Nick. I am classified as self employed, (contractor), don't get sick pay or holiday pay. Also as my role is now inside IR35, pay close to 50% tax. I have been a contractor for over 10yrs, and this is the first time I felt vulnerable, as a permie you would be entitled to full sick pay and not have to worry about your job whilst you are recuperating. This condition has come as a shock, but I could not feel sorry for myself and held on to the positives! I really did not want the fuss or sympathy from friends and Family, which is why I kept it away from them.


I have however told a few friends post surgery, as the condition typically affects 1 in 7 men and 1 in 4 black men. Up until now, when I hear the "C" word, you think it is almost a death sentence, however, now my friends are getting themselves tested/screened as a result of my diagnosis and surgery!

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Posted 26 May 2022 at 11:20

Hi Gee Oke. I work in IT and was a contractor though I am now a partner in a small firm. IR35 levels the playing field all the permits pay 50% tax it is just disguised as NI. Pre IR35 I was more than happy to sacrifice job security for more cash, and would still do so when legal.


I agree about not wanting fuss or sympathy. Fortunately for me, I was able to use my dark sense of humour to cause people to laugh at my cancer rather than give it the dignity a disease like cancer does not deserve.


I am very open about having PCa. The more that future victims of this disease see that PCa is a normal part of growing old and it can be dealth with the better.

Dave

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Posted 26 May 2022 at 12:18

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Nick, as far as driving goes, the legal situation is that you can drive as soon as you're able to safely perform an emergency stop. 
Best wishes,

Chris


 


That's not quite right. It is true in the absence of any other stated guidance or position but:


- if the hospital provides a leaflet to patients (or has something on their website) stating a specific timescale, that applies even if you haven't read it or had your attention drawn to it. So if the hospital leaflet says two weeks but you decide after 10 days that you can do an emergency stop, your insurance is invalidated


- if the surgeon tells you that you can drive after 2 weeks, your insurance would be invalidated if you drove earlier, even if you feel on top of the world


- if your insurer has a policy of 4 weeks after abdominal surgery (as many do), you would invalidate your insurance by driving earlier, even if you felt fine and the surgeon said it would be okay after 2 weeks 


- if your insurer requires written confirmation from the surgeon or GP that you are fit to drive, you have to do so


The 4th situation was the one that John found himself in. With a company car, his employer's insurer required a letter from the surgeon to confirm J could drive but the surgeon refused to provide this as he said he had no way of knowing for sure. In the event, it took 12 weeks to sort out :-( 

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 26 May 2022 at 12:54

I see your point about the need for men to be frank and open about PCa. However, culturally, death and anything is a taboo subject (don't ask me why😃), you only hear within my Community after the disease has claimed another victim, even then, their ailments is usually cloak and dagger, friends and Family are none the wiser. Some within my Community think a faith healer can work miracles to make the issue disappear. Sadly many have lost their lives with this erroneous belief. No doubt, have a positive dispensation, at the same time trust the medics! I still struggle to use myself to my friends as an example, to get them to believe this pca is real and you could have it without symptoms..

User
Posted 26 May 2022 at 14:00

Great advice thanks Lyn. I’ll check my policy and discuss with CNS.


best wishes


Nick

User
Posted 26 May 2022 at 15:22

Hi Gee, I agree, it’s difficult to get men to understand that PCa can be present if there are no symptoms. I’m sure a lot of men would rather not know but of course in some cases, when they do see somebody about it, it’s then too late or treatment has become much more complex and arduous. 
In my case I had blood in my sperm, which I put down to a botched vasectomy. Good job the GP did a PSA test!


I too am not keen on fuss but like you and Dave, I talk about it to friends and colleagues and encourage them to get a test if they’re in the target market for it.


all the best, Nick

User
Posted 26 May 2022 at 16:15

Nick,


Sadly PSA screening en-masse apparently is off the table. It is controversial and is not always reflective of what is going on. It is quite conceivable to have low PSA (within acceptable range) and have PCa and also have high PSA and not have PCa. My younger brother had a PSA of 11, no PCa and a guy in hospital next to me had a PSA of 3.8 with PCa!  A researcher from UCLH, who wanted me to donate an extra sample for biopsy during my first biopsy informed me there is a new method at detection that is currently being trialled.

User
Posted 26 May 2022 at 17:28

Hi Gee


sorry I meant that I encourage people to do the PCUK risk checker on their website.


I wonder what the new detection method is?


Nick

User
Posted 26 May 2022 at 22:32

I am not 100% certain, but think it is the UEA urine test, which apparently was not only good at accurately predicting PCa, but could also predict how aggressive the cancer is and whether it can be left alone. 

User
Posted 26 May 2022 at 23:11

I remember that on the news a few months ago. PSA is not good enough for screening, but is fine for monitoring disease. If the urine test is accurate it would be very useful.

Dave

User
Posted 27 May 2022 at 00:06

Absolutely Sir! PSA tests is still the best widely available detection method currently. Sadly the biggest cause of death due to PCa is apathy and ignorance!

User
Posted 27 May 2022 at 02:25
You don't hear much about the PCA3 test that made news a few years ago. It was thought to improve assessment, particularly if used in conjunction with PSA test. The cost was about £300 if I recall and maybe this curtailed its use.
Barry
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Posted 27 May 2022 at 13:41

Hi Nick,


I had my RARP last October, I was then 60 now 61. With regards to work, I was told to expect not to work for 3-4 weeks post op. I went in for the operation on a Tuesday morning, home by 6pm the following evening; stayed in bed all day Thursday and sat at my home desk for a couple of hours Friday morning just answering emails etc.; I run my own architectural business. The following two weeks while the catheter was still in, I managed to work for at least 4 hours a day then back almost full time in week 3. Everyone is different, but if your job is not too taxing, its a damn site better than watching Steph's Packed Lunch! Good luck with the operation.


 

User
Posted 27 May 2022 at 16:04

Ha! Thanks Neptune.


Yes, I can live without daytime TV. My issue now is that the soonest I can see the urologist is 21st June, meaning I’ll have surgery sometime at the start of the school hols. So me, my wife (who will be wfh and looking after me initially) plus my two teenagers will be in the house together. Whilst we don’t hate each other, I’m not looking forward to the pressure cooker vibes. But maybe now is the time when they need to find their feet a bit more and get out of the house! I’m sure it will work itself out and hopefully like you I can do some work. I suppose time will tell.


Out of interest, are you recovered fully?


all the best


Nick

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Posted 01 Jun 2022 at 07:27

Hi Bill,


Thanks, that sounds like a lot to deal with but clearly it worked. I hope you feel it was worth the pain and upheaval.


4  months sounds reasonable for the size of your surgery. You’re right, I think a staggered return is sensible for me.  We’re moving office in August which will involve an hours drive each way, so we’re investing in a garden office so j won’t need to spend so much time on the road.


My dad is 300 miles away and unfortunately diagnosed with a more aggressive form of the same disease 2 months before me. So no long walks with him but I have a pretty good wife. She walks our dog a lot so maybe I’ll strap a lead on and off we’ll trot to Plymouth Hoe! 


all the beat


Nick


 

 
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