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Posted 30 Jun 2022 at 13:53

I am 55 year's old fit and healthy I was diagnosed on April 12th with T2 prostate cancer Gleeson Score of 7. On my biopsy 5 out of 7 areas tested positive. On the 20th of April I went to see a surgeon who recommended surgery and wanted me to have it in between 4 to 5 weeks but I wasn't sure so I waited to see an  Oncologist first. I went to see an Oncologist on the 31st of May who because of my age also recommended surgery so everyone wanted me to have my prostate removed. I went to see another surgeon today the 30th of June how now tells me that my results have been checked again and I've been downgraded to Gleeson 6 and don't need any treatment so I've been put on active Surveillance. Does this happen often as if I'd went with the first surgeon I could have had my prostate unnecessary removed by now. Why would they check my results again can I have a 3rd opinion on my results or is this NHS cost cutting. I should feel relieved but I only feel like I've had a stay of execution 

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Posted 18 Oct 2023 at 19:59

Hi Adrianus

what conversation did you want to see (apologies if I’m being thick!)

Ian

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Posted 18 Oct 2023 at 20:22

Ah ok. No, it was me! I’ll have a go. I may have to ask someone how to do it though 👍

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t29723-Confused-by-diagnosis

Hope that works.

Edited by member 18 Oct 2023 at 20:24  | Reason: Added link

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Posted 30 Jun 2022 at 15:09

It is all very subjective. 

I don't want anyone to take the following as fact, but it may be a cyclists prostate looks a little more battered than someone else's. One pathologist has seen loads of cyclist prostates and the other very few so they have different opinions on what a grade 3 really looks like. I really want to emphasize I have no knowledge of what prostates look like and this is just supposition to suggest why opinions may differ.

I don't know if you can get a third opinion, or whether it would be any more useful than the two prior ones.

I know with my locally advanced cancer no surgeon would have touched me. The chances of surgery working for me was as good as zero, so I would have made a dent in that surgeons statistics and also had an unnecessary procedure. If you have hardly any significant cancer you would have been very good for a surgeons statistics, and the procedure would be reasonable. 

A breast cancer surgeon got 20 years prison for unnecessary operations. Such cases are very rare, but with a very low risk cancer you may look like sweet meat to someone with an eye on their statistics.

You haven't mentioned your PSA. I think if that is currently low maybe AS for at least six months may give you an idea whether your cancer is progressing. Viewing it as a stay of execution is probably quite right, but if you can put the date back 10 years you will have an extra decade of good life. If you put it back 20 years even better, but by then you will be less able to tolerate treatment (though by then treatment might just be one tablet of 'CancerCure patent medicine' available at all good pharmacies), if you push it back 30 years you will have died of something else before then anyway.

Dave

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Posted 18 Oct 2023 at 15:41

Hi

I would be interested to hear how you are getting on over a year down the line, as my situation pretty much mirrors yours. Diagnosed 3+4=7, chose surgery, downgraded to 3+3=6 by surgical hospital and now on active surveillance?

Hope you are doing ok.

Ian.

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Posted 18 Oct 2023 at 15:52

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Hi

I would be interested to hear how you are getting on over a year down the line, as my situation pretty much mirrors yours. 

That's just what I thought. Could you post a link to your conversation. It's quite relevant to this thread. I'd do it myself but I don't know how. 

Edited by member 18 Oct 2023 at 17:51  | Reason: Addition

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Posted 18 Oct 2023 at 19:59

Hi Adrianus

what conversation did you want to see (apologies if I’m being thick!)

Ian

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Posted 18 Oct 2023 at 20:15

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Hi Adrianus

what conversation did you want to see (apologies if I’m being thick!)

Ian

Hi Ian

I meant your 'confused by diagnosis' conversation. I thought it was similar and relevant to this conversation.

It's probably me that's being thick. 

User
Posted 18 Oct 2023 at 20:22

Ah ok. No, it was me! I’ll have a go. I may have to ask someone how to do it though 👍

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t29723-Confused-by-diagnosis

Hope that works.

Edited by member 18 Oct 2023 at 20:24  | Reason: Added link

 
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