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Posted 01 Sep 2022 at 17:20

Hi guys I'm a 68 year old male, I'm really struggling here, with this incontinence it's only seven weeks after my op but I am leaking like a sieve. When I'm sat and don't move I'm good but as soon as I stand up move walk bend go to the shops I leak like mad It feels like surge after surge settle downs then off it goes again I'm on tena 3 pads and wear upto 5 a day. Also at night I just about manage one pad a night get up three times a night to empty bladder which doesn't happen when walking about. I am so desperate for help. I don't even know if I'm doing my ppe correctly,I've watched videos on line ect. This really making me feel down and isolated as I don't want to go out as much as I used to. I've changed my drinking habits,no alcohol, decaf tea not coffee. 

 

User
Posted 02 Sep 2022 at 08:28

Jamesie,

At your stage after the operation, I was exactly the same - although I didn't have the guts to go shopping. I couldn't even dry my feet after a shower without leaking. Whilst I expected some incontinence, I could not get used to not even feeling that I was leaking. I was majorly envious of the guys who posted that they were continent after a few days and I was deeply distressed, wondering if I had chosen the right treatment and if life would ever be 'normal' again.

Ten months on, I no longer wear a pad at home and sometimes wear a Tena level 1, or a protective shield (level 0) when I go out , but that is mainly for confidence. I may have the odd 'accident', once or twice a week, but that is only a drip and let's face it, that can happen to any guy from time to time.

Seeing a pelvic health physio is good advice. I did that to get confirmation that I was doing my PF exercises correctly and she also gave me a few Pilates exercises to help me. She also reminded me, given my depressed mood at the time and to put things in persective, that I had undergone life saving surgery. 

I know its a bad time right now, but you will get there. 

Good luck

Peter

 

 

User
Posted 02 Sep 2022 at 18:03

Yes it is bad Chris, but I had some fantastic needs today PSA of 0.04 and cancer was within my prostate. This has made me feel far more positive 

User
Posted 02 Sep 2022 at 22:11

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Jamesie,

At your stage after the operation, I was exactly the same - although I didn't have the guts to go shopping. I couldn't even dry my feet after a shower without leaking. Whilst I expected some incontinence, I could not get used to not even feeling that I was leaking. I was majorly envious of the guys who posted that they were continent after a few days and I was deeply distressed, wondering if I had chosen the right treatment and if life would ever be 'normal' again.

Ten months on, I no longer wear a pad at home and sometimes wear a Tena level 1, or a protective shield (level 0) when I go out , but that is mainly for confidence. I may have the odd 'accident', once or twice a week, but that is only a drip and let's face it, that can happen to any guy from time to time.

Seeing a pelvic health physio is good advice. I did that to get confirmation that I was doing my PF exercises correctly and she also gave me a few Pilates exercises to help me. She also reminded me, given my depressed mood at the time and to put things in persective, that I had undergone life saving surgery. 

I know its a bad time right now, but you will get there. 

Good luck

Peter

 

 

Brilliant post Peter, Genuinely brilliant.

 

Jamie

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User
Posted 01 Sep 2022 at 21:06

Sorry Jamesie with what you're going through.

While you are peeing, can you stop mid stream? This is a very good way to find the right muscle to contract. It's possibly not a good way to exercise as it might cause retention if you repeatedly do it, but OK to try occasionally to make sure you have identified the right muscle, and to see how well it's working (by how quickly you can shut off the flow mid stream).

You appear to know some of the things that make you leak, so something to try is to do a pre-contraction before and while you stand up, and see if that prevents the leaking. Same with coughing, etc, and this will become instinctive.

Alcohol and caffeine are possible bladder irritants which if you are sensitive to them, will cause urgency (the sudden need to go before your bladder has filled up). That isn't the symptom you described, so it might not be necessary to give them up, but it does no harm to try these things out just to check.

You can ask for an appointment with a pelvic health physiotherapist. These specialise in muscle control relating to continence and can check you are doing your pelvic floor exercises correctly. They can also do more detailed measurement of the effectiveness of your sphincters if they think this is useful, e.g. if they suspect your sphincter isn't working correctly.

Also, if you're not getting the pads prescribed and find them expensive, ask your GP if you can have them on prescription. They will likely refer you to the local continence service, although this is a bit of a postcode lottery. Also, what you can get on prescription (if anything at all) might not be what you'd choose to use.

User
Posted 01 Sep 2022 at 21:25
If it's any consolation, that is about the point when I felt the most down about the constant "leakage". I was beginning to feel much better in myself but couldn't do the things I wanted to because of the need to be able to do yet another pad change.

But it did slowly get better, and I could start being braver about what I did, but it happened over months rather than days. It felt like a real breakthrough when I got down to two pads a day about 8 months after the operation - all I needed was a spare in my back pocket and I could do anything (previously I was going around with a small rucksack all the time). And I was emboldened to explore drinks again, ordinary tea became tolerated, and one or two glasses of wine weren't a disaster. Admittedly coffee took a lot longer.

However everyone is different, it was frustrating to read about those whose continence was back to normal after only a few weeks. Years later I still need one pad a day, and occasionally need to call on the spare in the pocket. But once I was "over the hump" I could return to an acceptable lifestyle. Good luck to you with getting to that point too.

User
Posted 01 Sep 2022 at 21:34

Thanks for your comments, I have a appointment with the continence nurses in a couple of weeks. The pads they have already given me to try,tbh aren't up to the job. I can stop my pee mid stream. I'm off for my post operation appointment with the surgeon tomorrow I will mention seeing a physiotherapist as you suggested. I don't think I've had a completely full bladder yet,which is annoying. Thanks again.

User
Posted 01 Sep 2022 at 21:42

Thanks for them words means a lot,it's just it feels like never ending, I suppose it's early days as people keep telling me. I have been out with a pad in my back pocket and a bag with other things in. But feel uneasy staying out to long. Funny thing is after having a decaf tea in my local coffee shop,it seems to get worse. So I'm going to give tea a rest and see what happens. I need to get these ppe right. Thanks again 

User
Posted 01 Sep 2022 at 23:15

Jamesie, I don't think everyone understands how much of an issue incontinence is and that includes me. I was fortunate to be 99 percent dry 4 days after my post op catheter removal. Due to a stricture I had numerous operations but always managed to regain my continence after the procedures.

On Tuesday they had another excursion into my bladder and replaced my suprapubic catheter, unfortunately the replacement was not put back in the right place. Yesterday I filled  six pads with around 150 mls of urine a time before getting the catheter changed at three o clock. I now fully understand the frustration that guys like you are going through. 

It is yet another side effect that is played down, I hope your situation improves sooner rather than later.

Thanks Chris 

 

 

User
Posted 02 Sep 2022 at 08:28

Jamesie,

At your stage after the operation, I was exactly the same - although I didn't have the guts to go shopping. I couldn't even dry my feet after a shower without leaking. Whilst I expected some incontinence, I could not get used to not even feeling that I was leaking. I was majorly envious of the guys who posted that they were continent after a few days and I was deeply distressed, wondering if I had chosen the right treatment and if life would ever be 'normal' again.

Ten months on, I no longer wear a pad at home and sometimes wear a Tena level 1, or a protective shield (level 0) when I go out , but that is mainly for confidence. I may have the odd 'accident', once or twice a week, but that is only a drip and let's face it, that can happen to any guy from time to time.

Seeing a pelvic health physio is good advice. I did that to get confirmation that I was doing my PF exercises correctly and she also gave me a few Pilates exercises to help me. She also reminded me, given my depressed mood at the time and to put things in persective, that I had undergone life saving surgery. 

I know its a bad time right now, but you will get there. 

Good luck

Peter

 

 

User
Posted 02 Sep 2022 at 18:03

Yes it is bad Chris, but I had some fantastic needs today PSA of 0.04 and cancer was within my prostate. This has made me feel far more positive 

User
Posted 02 Sep 2022 at 18:04

Thanks Peter, I'll get there I'm sure.

User
Posted 02 Sep 2022 at 21:28

Hi there.

I really know what you are going through as it was the same for me. I am 2 years now post op and am 68.  I am pretty much dry now and just wear a protector in the day  to give me confidence. At night I wear a pad but don't really need to it is just  safety net.  It did take a while to control it . It was awful at the time after my op but it did  get better. I can remember being really down and totally depressed by the leaking but you just have to try and be laid back about it. You will be fine in the end I am sure. Keep doing the pelvic floor exercises though. Loads of women have to do them everyday so maybe we should not complain too much. 

Trust me it will improve and you will be Ok. Hope things improve soon.

Be positive as it will get better.

 

User
Posted 02 Sep 2022 at 22:11

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Jamesie,

At your stage after the operation, I was exactly the same - although I didn't have the guts to go shopping. I couldn't even dry my feet after a shower without leaking. Whilst I expected some incontinence, I could not get used to not even feeling that I was leaking. I was majorly envious of the guys who posted that they were continent after a few days and I was deeply distressed, wondering if I had chosen the right treatment and if life would ever be 'normal' again.

Ten months on, I no longer wear a pad at home and sometimes wear a Tena level 1, or a protective shield (level 0) when I go out , but that is mainly for confidence. I may have the odd 'accident', once or twice a week, but that is only a drip and let's face it, that can happen to any guy from time to time.

Seeing a pelvic health physio is good advice. I did that to get confirmation that I was doing my PF exercises correctly and she also gave me a few Pilates exercises to help me. She also reminded me, given my depressed mood at the time and to put things in persective, that I had undergone life saving surgery. 

I know its a bad time right now, but you will get there. 

Good luck

Peter

 

 

Brilliant post Peter, Genuinely brilliant.

 

Jamie

 
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