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My Journey through HT and RT

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Posted 10 Jan 2025 at 23:34

Hi Decho, glad you're in Fuertoventura the weather is miserable here. Long may results going in the right direction continue.

Dave

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Posted 02 Mar 2025 at 17:18

It’s been a while since I updated my journey thread so thought it would be a good time to do so.


those of you following my weight loss challenge will know I’ve lost 4kg I’m 4 weeks and I’m now now sub 100kg for the first time I’m more than a year! Still a long way to go but I’m quite pleased really sitting here with my gin and tonic😊 What’s  even more pleasing is the steady reduction in body and visceral fat.


The other big change is my level of randiness. All of a sudden my hormones are raging and I feel like a (teenage?) man again. I now don’t prefer having a cup of coffee to the idea of having sex. It’s weird feeling like this again but nice. The idea of Penetrative sex no longer repulses me although I'm not managing to get strong enough erections to manage it, even using the pump. i think I need to explore other positions which  might work for us both. I’m getting very strong (dry) orgasms though with my wife using the male masturbator on me…this has been a great investment, it’s got such a lovely feeling even more so when it’s cool…and it’s been pretty cool here in Scotland recently. I’m also wondering whether injections might give me stronger erections so need to make an appointment with the ED nurse for a trial.


Generally I feel great, still having issues with my right hip but I think there’s an underlying problem there such bursitis so I will need to try and find a solution to it. My joint ache is continuing to get better as are my hot flushes.
I’m becoming more active again, yesterday I was away in the forests around Aberfoyle on my ebike…really enjoyed that, and the weathers to be quite good this week so will be out and about as much as possible.


My next PSA/Testosterone test is start if April so it will be interesting to see what my testosterone level is then…but of course that then brings on the worry about my PSA rising. It doesn’t stop me from having fun but it’s always there….as we were saying at Maggies on Friday, it’s like a maggot on the side of your head nibbling away!! Anyway booked another cruise for late September and back out to Fuerteventura for the second half of March. just going to do follow Chris Hoys ‘Do it Now’ advice for as long as I can.


again, good luck to everyone on their journeys…there’s always hope😊


Derek

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Posted 02 Mar 2025 at 19:11
Just on the return of libido-I had 3 yrs of Zoladex plus 2yrs of abiraterone&enzalutimide on trial (37 sessions of RT completed treatment). Yes I well remember the return of libido it came sort of all of a sudden although it was expected it was a complete surprise that basically one minute none next minute it was plenty of it!
Peter
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Posted 02 Mar 2025 at 23:50
Glad to hear things going well for you, Derek - sounds like you are well on your way back to some kind of normal. I had my last prostap injection on 24th February so hoping to be in a similar place to you before the year is out.

Good to here your experience too Peter - it is encouraging for those coming up behind you.
User
Posted 03 Mar 2025 at 13:59
Entertaining update as usual Derek. Very difficult trying to explain the lack of desire HT delivers to the unitiated.
I tried to explain it to my brother a while back but unless you've been through it it's impossible to grasp.
When he was telling me about his super sex life I told him I'd choose the soup.😉
User
Posted 03 Mar 2025 at 21:40

Great update Derek. Keep enjoying the holidays.


Best wishes,


Ian

Ido4

User
Posted 15 Apr 2025 at 16:39

Latest Results…


PSA 0.1 (no < symbol)


Testosterone 6.5


GP has written to my Oncologist but no idea why🤷🏼‍♂️


TBH I’m not sure WHAT all this means. I know I’ve still got a prostate and PSA will start to rise but not sure what the timescales of this would be. It’s 1 year since my last Prostap injection and 2 years since finishing RT.

User
Posted 15 Apr 2025 at 17:16

My PSA hasn't had a < symbol for ages. Whilst I was on HT it was always <0.1 . I can't remember all the numbers, but I they are in my profile. My PSA is generally now 0.1 it has been up to 0.2 and then back down to 0.1. My testosterone returned after about 9 months from last HT, which is similar to your timescale. 


In short I am about four years ahead of you I've had very similar diagnosis and treatment to you, and a very similar testosterone response and PSA response to you. If you and I keep following the same path you will be good for at least another four years. As for beyond that, well I'll let you know when I get there.

Dave

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Posted 15 Apr 2025 at 17:42

Thanks Dave that’s reassuring. I must admit this last week has been hell for me, and more so for my poor wife. I have just been so anxious about this test, probably because I knew my testosterone had returned.


Notes to myself:
1. Always get my PSA Test on Monday so that my weekend is not ruined.
2. Up my sertraline a couple of weeks before the test is due.

User
Posted 15 Apr 2025 at 18:19
Derek your sense of humour will see you through. I tried Fenalfaxine at the start of the year because I was told I was becoming obsessive. Gave it up after one 28 day course. What I need is a sleeping draught to give me 4+ hours uninterrupted sleep. Forget the recommended units per week.
John
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Posted 15 Apr 2025 at 18:19
Derek your sense of humour will see you through. I tried Fenalfaxine at the start of the year because I was told I was becoming obsessive. Gave it up after one 28 day course. What I need is a sleeping draught to give me 4+ hours uninterrupted sleep. Forget the recommended units per week.
John
User
Posted 15 Apr 2025 at 19:40

Presume some kind of spellchecker correction,  do you mean venlafaxine John ?

Edited by member 15 Apr 2025 at 21:37  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 16 Apr 2025 at 01:08

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
GP has written to my Oncologist but no idea why🤷🏼‍♂️


Perfectly normal to keep the oncologist up to date on how you're going. It would be a worry if your GP didn't.


Your results are looking good Derek.


Jules

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Posted 21 Apr 2025 at 09:41

A bit more of an update…


Turned out you were right. I emailed the surgery and got a phone call from the practice manager 5 mins later apologising. Turns out the letter was to the Oncologist was just to say my results were available for viewing. So why couldn’t that miserable receptionist tell me that and save me the worry?🤷🏼‍♂️


Another note to myself….if I walk into the surgery and see that woman on? Smile and walk straight back out😊


Other than that feeling quite good. Visited the Kelpies and Falkirk wheel yesterday and walked 9 miles at a fairly brisk pace…quite proud of myself as not done that for a long time. Even better my hips feel ok today, maybe I have turned the corner💪💪


Im still a bit of a heffer at 100kg but trying to lose another 4 kg before  I put it all back on on our cruise in July😩


Things are definitely improving in the trouser department now that my testosterone is returning. Randiness is quite high and my OH keeps telling me that ‘naughty Nicky’ (long story🤣🤣) is getting bigger and straighter all the time. My Peyronie’s seems to be correcting itself, I almost feel like a man again after 3 years of womanhood😉😉


Flushes are almost a thing of the past now.😊😊😊😊 I can go a whole day without one and if I do get one is more like just a warm feeling. Still get one annoying one every night shortly after I lie down to sleep each night but I can live with that.


I notice now I have to be more careful shaving that I don’t miss a bit and my wife is counting each hair that appears on my arms and legs🤣🤣


I still get a bit fatigued when doing physical activity but I guess that will improve through time.


Ive decided to wean myself off Maggies a bit. I will still go along occasionally to offer support to others but I think it’s time to move on from.


so, 9 months on from Independence Day, spring is in the air, got lots planned for the summer and feeling positive…..and I’m going to try and not get so stressed about my next PSA test. And for anyone else on this journey, there is hope, you will feel better once you’re off the ‘poison’…you just need to be patient.


Good luck to all of you and if my update has made you chuckle…all the better😊

Edited by member 21 Apr 2025 at 09:43  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 21 Apr 2025 at 13:19

Sounds good Decho, looks like you are coming out the far end in fine fettle. It gives me a lot of hope, I'm desperate for my independence day, still another year off 😱.


Enjoy your cruise


Spongebob

User
Posted 21 Apr 2025 at 13:54
Well done Deco, maybe look at low carb diets, I was 100kg 5 years ago, just 85 now! And I am not restrictive (except for carbs - there is always a catch!). You can even do low carb on a cruise relatively easily.

User
Posted 21 Apr 2025 at 16:15
Nice news Deco. Good to hear the positive outcomes
User
Posted 21 Apr 2025 at 16:31

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


Sounds good Decho, looks like you are coming out the far end in fine fettle. It gives me a lot of hope, I'm desperate for my independence day, still another year off 😱.


Enjoy your cruise


Spongebob



Have you thought about asking your Oncologist if you can stop early? I stopped after 2 years with his approval. I really think this blanket 3 years period needs to be questioned, especially if you’re continually getting good PSA results. I really think if I had stayed on it another year I wouldn’t be in a good place.

User
Posted 23 Apr 2025 at 17:46

Great update Decho. Enjoy your cruise when it comes. 

Ido4

User
Posted 11 Jul 2025 at 22:30

PSA Result today, up from 0.1 to 0.2 since April. That’s a year now since Prostap was out of my system, so I think the result is reasonable as I still have a Prostate.
I’m going to get my Testosterone tested in August out in Fuerteventura as it’s much cheaper to have it tested out there. I haven’t really noticed much difference in my libido over the past few months so maybe that’s as good as it’s going to get -I’m certainly NOT like I use to be but maybe I’m expecting too much too soon.


As I said in a separate post,  I’ve been suffering quite bad mood swings, which I didn’t expect now that the poison is out of my system. It’s not anxiety or depression, but I find that I get angry over quite trivial things and I can be in a bad mood for days. I’m learning to identify when this is happening though and focus on the positive things that’s happening in my life. I wasn’t nearly as anxious this time whilst waiting on my PSA result, although I did need 2 flat whites in my favourite coffee shop next to the surgery before going in. Fortunately it was the nice receptionist at the other side of the partition who was very helpful. Maybe I’ve just learned to accept  that there’s nothing I can do about it so I might as well get on with life. It did help though not having to wait over the weekend for the results so in  future I will always ensure I get my test done on a Monday.


My physical well being is quite good, no more aches and pains and flushes are minor…I generally don’t carry around my pocket fan any more although during this hot weather it’s a godsend. I  still need to lose weight…I seem to have got stuck around the 100kg and I need to get back to the gym to improve my muscle strength.


Sexual function is quite good(when I can be bothered!) and I can get quite good erections now, maybe around 70%. The Peyronie’s is getting better too but I still have a slight bend and I’ve certainly lost some length. Penetration is still not really working but we still manage to have fun😉


We’re  off on a River Cruise to the south of France tomorrow for 11 nights on the Rhône….thats not going to help with my weight😩 but what the hell? Going to have a blast.🍷🍸🍹🥂🍾


Best wishes to everyone on their journey.

User
Posted 11 Jul 2025 at 23:34

Hi Decho, 


Good update thanks. I’m following your update closely as I’m right behind you on the journey. Still on the poison but looking hopefully at Independence Day before end of year which would put me at just 2 and a bit years on the stuff. I’m really interested to learn about your recovery from the side effects.


Enjoy your river cruise. We were in the Ardeche a couple of years ago and saw a cruise ship dock near us on the Rhone, it looked like a good wheeze. (The Ardeche was fab btw. Doubt you’ll get chance on a cruise but if you do then do the kayak down the Ardeche Gorges - sensational, otherwise do enjoy good wines 🍷)


cheers


Spongebob

User
Posted 12 Jul 2025 at 18:13
Re testesterone, I was on Zoladex for 3 yrs with last implant June 2018 or thereabouts. Like you libido was non existent but that was expected along with many other effects. In June 2020, i.e. 2yrs after last implant, my testesterone was 20.4 classed as normal. Not long prior to that I'd say it was still much lower and things seemed to respond quite suddenly. My PSA nadir was 0.5 and has remained there or bit lower since. I was also on 2yrs abiraterone, enzalutimide, prednisolone on trial, p!us 32 sessions RT.
I obviously dont know if zoladex/prostap etc recovery is at same rate. I do know its been said many times that recovery from HT takes as long as on it; for me that was about right, still suffered tiredness etc (not to same extent)after testosterone normal.
Peter
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Posted 23 Aug 2025 at 14:35

Got my latest testosterone result back today…11.7, up from 6.5 so going in the right direction 😊


I really notice the difference, although I’m certainly not feeling the same urges as before I started on this stuff. However My strength and endurance are so much better. And the fatigue I was suffering for a while seems to have gone.


Still have my ups and down mood swings, but I’m dealing with them😊


 

User
Posted 31 Jan 2026 at 17:46

I’ve just realised I haven’t kept my journey up to date for a while, so please find the last 2 sets of result below. I haven’t been on here for a long time, I guess it’s me trying to move on from PCa? Anyway here are the result:


October 4th 2025: PSA 0.2, Testosterone 13.7


January 5th 2026: PSA 0.2, Testosterone not tested yet but feels normal..if you know what I mean😉😉


So that’s the last 3 tests have been 0.2, so hopefully it will stabilise at that. My tests are now every 6 months so they must be happy with my progress.


Physically I feel back to normal now, and it’s so good to feel like a man again sexually as well.


Mentally….hmmm, the last 6 months has been ‘different’ although ATM I’m having a purple patch and am really happy with life. I really do think its all about the hormonal changes, I’m looking forward to getting my next Testosterone test just to see what it’s showing…I feel like it’s back to what it was before this ordeal started. I’ve felt quite angry, even more short tempered than normal and less tolerant…just like a moody teenager really.😩


The one thing that has happened though was when I was on a cruise last October I started to get palpitations. Not enough to be of real concern…but something wasn’t right. I decided to give it to the end of the year to see if they passed, but if anything they got worse. I ended up seeing a private GP at Spire because trying to get a GP appointment on the NHS is difficult. He took some time to go through my history and symptoms and then gave me an ECG, which he then reviewed with me. I have an ectopic heartbeat, every few beats a have a premature beat and this appears to be what’s causing the palpitations. Nothing serious, but I’m seeing a Caridiologist next Thursday,  and he is going to give me a tape monitor for 24/48 hours to see if there’s any patterns. I have also seen my GP about this who referred me for ECGs, but there’s at least a 10 week wait for a NHS cardiologist to review my results. I’m off on another cruise on 12th March, and as anyone who has tried to get Travel Insurance will know, they DONT like when you are ‘Under Investigation’, so I need a diagnosis as soon as possible, This has why I have gone Private and the service from Spire has been exceptional. I’m not saying the NHS has been bad, it’s just that you have to learn to be a very patient patient.


Ive been doing some reading and it appears that hormonal changes can cause these ectopic heartbeats…I’m wondering if anyone else has suffered with this after stopping HT?

Anyway, I hope everyone is doing well and I’ll  take some time to read through the posts to get a better idea of how everyone is doing.


all the best to everyone on here…you’ve been an amazing support to me🙏

User
Posted 31 Jan 2026 at 18:08
Great stuff, good luck with heart and enjoy your cruise
User
Posted 31 Jan 2026 at 19:41

Great to have you back Derek. You've been missed, mate. 👍

Edited by member 31 Jan 2026 at 22:31  | Reason: Typo

User
Posted 31 Jan 2026 at 22:24

Hi Decco,


Fantastic to hear about your post-poison recovery, reading your updates really helps to give me hope that there is some light to look forward to after the last poison 😬.


Sorry though to hear about your cardio issues, it’s one thing after another. Do you get the feeling that it is all one big test?


Cheers


Spongebob

User
Posted 01 Feb 2026 at 10:45

SpongeBob, I got a ticking off at Maggies Mens Group recently for referring it to ‘poison’🤣🤣🤣
True, it has an important job to do(I’m told) but for many men(not all🤷🏼‍♂️) it does wreck your body. The good news is that you do recover, so that’s something to really look forward to. Even my Peyronie’s disease has corrected itself. The human body really is an amazing thing💪💪


Talking of Maggies I decided that 2026 was time to move on from attending the meetings at Maggies. I’ll still go in to see the guys on occasion as they are such a great bunch of guys who have been such a support to me. I’ve made so many good friends through Maggies(as well as on here BTW) who I will remain friends with for life….and only one who I thought was a very good friend but who let me down badly and hurt me to the core. But that’s another story and we learn by our mistakes.


So good luck to SpongeBob and everyone else coming out the other side of whatever treatment you have…and if you’re having a bad day just listen to Sir Chris and his ‘If there’s something you wanted to do, just do it NOW!’ Interview…the guy is such an inspiration!


Derek


 

User
Posted 01 Feb 2026 at 11:12

HT seems to affect people in different ways. Husband started Decapeptyl in November with a PSA of 7.1 . He asked for his PSA to be done at a routine GP annual assessment,  exactly 3 weeks after his first injection. His PSA was 1.7. after 21 days. 


Most of the medication we take is a poison of one kind or another! 


BTW his GP gave him Sildenafil and he bought a Soma pump in the first week. We are both doing as much as possible to offset all side effects, including 6k to 8k walking most days, and reasonable diet. Keeping busy. 


I just hope none of my parcels goes to a neighbour and gets opened by mistake! The one person who wouldn't be shocked is 96! 

User
Posted 01 Feb 2026 at 11:34

Hi Antionette,


Sorry, I’ve not met you before, not quite sure from your  BIO who has the PCa, but it’s good to hear you’re both trying hard to mitigate the side effects. Walking is good as is any weight bearing exercise,a new swimming. If you’re  OH is not a gym goer, buy some resistance bands….its amazing what gym exercises you can replicate using these.


I never got on with the Soma device, I found much better and cheaper device on Lovehoney…fortunately all their packages arrive in brown packing so unless your neighbour opens it up he’ll never know.🤣🤣🤣 you don’t want him having a heart attack😱 although it might put a smile in his face😊😊😊


Yes, go on the cruise, in fact go on as many holidays as you can and be good to yourselves..it really helps. I’m really looking forward to my Caribbean cruise in 12th March. I never thought I’d like cruising, but tried once in a smaller ship and love it!


All their best to both of you,


Derek

User
Posted 01 Feb 2026 at 12:00

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Sorry though to hear about your cardio issues, it’s one thing after another. Do you get the feeling that it is all one big test?


I don't know about you lads, but I certainly feel that everytime I go the doctors they seem to find something else wrong. That's why I now do my utmost to avoid them.


Decho, your heart issue sounds like arrhythmia. My wife has it. I remember when I once used to cause her heart to beat faster, now it's just dodgy electric impulses that cause it. 😁

Edited by member 01 Feb 2026 at 12:02  | Reason: Additional text

User
Posted 01 Feb 2026 at 13:55

Adrian,


Problem is getting to see an NHS doctor in the first place unless you’re prepared to stand in the freezing cold at 8am in the morning waiting for it opening at 8.30am. It’s actually quite degrading….and then you have to get past the receptionist who is worse than the Spanish Inquisition. If you pass that hurdle, you get a triage phone appointment and if you’re convincing will then get a face to face with a doctor.


thats why I went to Spire, went online and got a next day appointment with a lovely GP who had the time to speak to me, do an ECG there and then, then reviewed it with me and followed up with a letter after a few days. All for £120. He also referred me to a cardiologist  in this area who I see on Thursday. Of course it will cost me more to have all this done but I think it’s worth it. I can’t fault my treatment for Cancer with the NHS but it just seems to take so long with other things.


Yes I agree about arrhythmia, AFIB has been ruled out though and my GP says no further treatment required. maybe that’s why my palpitations seem to have disappeared…..knowing it’s nothing serious. I think having cancer does make you more anxious about your health.

User
Posted 01 Feb 2026 at 15:38

Hi Derek, it's my husband who has prostate cancer. You replied to one of my first posts! You were quite positive I thought. I wish you the very best 

User
Posted 01 Feb 2026 at 20:35

Ha one last thing my 96 year old neighbour, still driving, short distances!, is a lady! She was recently given viagra in a very low dose for her heart problems. Some very wry jokes came out! Ivdont think she'd be shocked at all actually, by anything 

User
Posted 02 Feb 2026 at 09:36

Hello Derek,


Nice to see you back again and excellent news on your recovery! I'm looking forward to being off the stuff in about 6 months. I'm still following your advice of keeping up the resistance exercise, I think its helped a lot, both physically and mentally


thanks again John

User
Posted 02 Feb 2026 at 10:29

Yes, referring to it as poison makes us sound like grumpy, ungrateful old men doesn’t it? In a moment of weakness, I actually found myself thinking that it’s probably a bit OTT to do so.


But then on further reflection, imagine in times distant past, perhaps to the Witches in Shakespeare. In a cavern of cauldrons where old hags are conspiring to do their worst, one accidentally stumbles upon a concoction that can chemically castrate a man, and on discovering it she cackles away in delirium. Now then, has she created a magic potion or has she made a poison?


Anyway, I for one find it an ordeal, but of course it is a necessary ordeal because it is prolonging my life. In the absence of an alternative I will be eternally grateful. Although, it will always be poison to me.


 


Decco, maybe there is at least one possible positive side effect. And that might be the associated brain fog, which now fuzzies our ability to think with any austere domestic economic sense when it comes to thinking about holidays? You enjoy your cruises 🚢, you really deserve it. I’m going to China next😃, a trip that I would never previously have considered and which by coincidence is a place famed for its strange concoctions and potions 😬.


Good luck to everyone who is on HT, and especially to those who are struggling with it - keep going!


SpongeBob 

User
Posted 02 Feb 2026 at 11:26

Hi Decho


Since you have been absent here for a while  I have been wondering how you are? As a general principle and in my experience, I think the rate of change is significant: The question is how significant? Because I suffered from prostatitis for a number of years I kept track of my PSA. I noticed that there was a steep rise in my PSA over two years which alarmed me although it was well within my age range. My GPs (two of them) did not agree with me and refused to refer me to a urologist. I decided to go private, within a week an MRI guided biopsy confirmed early stage cancer, prostatectomy followed two weeks later. I am afraid some medics are not competent scientists!

 'Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it.'                    Richard Feynman (1918-1988) Nobel Prize laureate


 


 

 
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