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GregJ’s Journey - To Infinity And Beyond!

User
Posted 12 Jul 2023 at 14:10

Thanks Lyn

I understand how the Tadalafil works and I think that’s why the urology surgeon stopped them after I had my internal bleed. The bleed started in the main wound above my navel and goes down into my pelvis. They didn’t want even more increased blood flow to that area until there had been plenty of time for the bleed to stop. 


My hemoglobin has increased again to 118, as of yesterday, so they assume that the bleeding has definitely stopped and things are on the mend. 🤞

 

Take care 

Greg

 

User
Posted 12 Jul 2023 at 14:15

Cheers Derek 👍😊

 

I’m documenting each stage as I go through it so I can look back in the weeks and months to come and see how far I’ve progressed. 

As I said earlier I wasn’t sure whether to post the “bad bits” but like you I think it’s good to see a balanced picture with real world results. 

I do wish I was one of the few percent that sail through with zero problems and get back to their full normal life in a matter of weeks but …. This is the hand I’ve been dealt so I have to just get on with it. 😊👍

 

Cheers

Greg. 

User
Posted 13 Jul 2023 at 09:34

Another totally dry night, which I really appreciate. 

It seems if I’m sitting still, watching TV or laying on my back to sleep, there is zero leakage. I can cough, sneeze and stand and walk a few steps no problem but then say I’m making a cup of tea, half way through the kettle boiling there will be a little leak. Seems so random really. 

I’m using two pairs of disposable pants per day, I could probably get away with just using one but I like to feel fresh so I wash often and change the pants half way through the day. I got the pants from Age UK, only £4.50 for a pack of 8 (9 for the medium size) so a great price. They are amazingly absorbent and feel dry instantly after a small leak. 

I’m two days post catheter removal now so although my ridiculously impatient mind is telling me I want to be perfectly dry now, I keep telling myself I should be happy with where I am right now. 

Called my main contact nurse to check I should definitely be on the Tadalafil tablets now and waiting for her to call me back after checking with urologist. 


My abdominal muscles still hurt and ache but I guess this is just normal healing from the surgery. As Stephen Fry said after his RP … you’ve been stabbed 5 times, all be it under anaesthetic, you’ve still been stabbed! 😊

After all said and done I’m definitely in a far better place than I was even just last week after the second hospital stay for the internal bleed. 

Onwards and hopefully “upwards” to infinity and beyond! 😊👍

User
Posted 13 Jul 2023 at 10:34

Your doing great Greg and good luck with the ‘upwards’ bit.

I got a text this morning from my pharmacist saying that my ‘wonky Willy’ corrector device(SOMACorrect) had arrived so I’ll be doing a fair bit of pumping in the hope I can keep it ‘straight up’ too!😊

you’ve just GOT to laugh….or cry😪 but laughing is better for the soul and your sanity!🤣🤣🤣

User
Posted 13 Jul 2023 at 10:53

Cheers Derek 

Gotta keep smiling and hoping for the best. 
Good luck with your new device, hope it works well for you. 

It’s a right old kerfuffle this cancer lark isn’t it. 😁

cheers

Greg. 

User
Posted 13 Jul 2023 at 19:38

Hi Greg J,

After all that you've been through, you're doing amazingly well.  Long may it continue.

Best wishes.

JedSee.

User
Posted 13 Jul 2023 at 21:55

Thanks JedSee

 

I hope so  .. 🤞🤞

take care

Greg. 

User
Posted 15 Jul 2023 at 13:23

Hmm .. 🤔

Still getting small amount of blood in urine. It’s not noticeable in the toilet bowl but it is very evident on the incontinence pad from the occasional small leak I am having. 

It maybe looks worse in the pad as it likely spreads in the absorbent material but it’s still a bit of a shock. 
It’s dark brown, not light red. 

I’ve read that this is normal and can go on for up to 6 weeks?

Anyone else experience this?

I’m 17 days post surgery and 4 days post catheter removal. 

cheers

Greg. 

User
Posted 15 Jul 2023 at 15:24

Greg, I am never sure about saying normal, it is frequently mentioned and I was still passing a small amount of blood, scabs and debris at least six weeks after surgery. A few weeks after surgery I also passed a kidney stone, that got my attention.

Brown blood is again frequently said the be okay, and bright red blood should be checked out.

Thanks Chris 

User
Posted 15 Jul 2023 at 16:05

Thanks Chris

Yeah you’re right, I suppose there is no real normal in this game as we’re all so different. 
Saying that I am “glad” that it’s not just me and that others have had similar. 

I’ll keep an eye on it and if it continues or gets worse I’ll give my CNS a call. 

I feel a bit abandoned after my surgery to be honest. The only appointment that I have now is  a phone call with the surgeon at the end of August. I guess I just keep my head down and keep going and if anything happens I just call the urology department at my local hospital. 

Take care

Greg. 

User
Posted 15 Jul 2023 at 17:49

TBH Greg, I think many of us feel a bit abandoned after treatment is finished. I know I do, but I think youve got to be proactive in addressing any issues you have to get them sorted.

You know about my issues with Peyronie’s disease, I would have waited probably at least a year to get an an appointment with a Specialist on the NHS, which is why I decided to go ahead and pay privately to get a diagnosis…and now I’ve got what I need to try and get it fixed….on the NHS🤷🏼‍♂️

Also my joint stiffness and aches were really beginning to really affect my QOL…every joint in my body was affected. I searched high and low for a solution as it was getting to me. I’ve come to the conclusion through my own research that the joint ache is caused by muscle loss because of this damned HT treatment. I was already going to the gym but my son told me you have to push yourself as far as you can to build muscle, so it’s not reps that count but the weights you’re lifting. Also asking for advice on here someone mentioned swimming…so I’m now doing that several times a week. I can honestly say I am really beginning to feel a difference. In my view anyone on HT should be given advice and even prescribed a gym membership along with a strict program to adhere to to prevent muscle loss. if you’re in a manual job(we have a landscape gardener in our Maggies Group) you’re  probably working your muscles every day…but if your retired like me maybe not. I was cycling a lot but now I think that maybe that I was exercising wrong so hopefully this new regime will help me.

so, I’m going to keep pumping and pushing in the hope it’s sorts both these issues. I can live with the rest😊

So, if you’re worried about ANYTHING, do you own research and try things out to help. Maybe it shouldn’t be like this but that’s what I’ve found. 

All the best…and keep smiling, it helps immensely 😊

Derek

Edited by member 15 Jul 2023 at 17:55  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 15 Jul 2023 at 18:03

Thanks Derek 

It’s a right old palava this isn’t it.  🥴

I thought I would have follow up appointments with the urologist, CNS and maybe incontinence nurse but so far no word.

I really need to start exercising but I’m absolutely knackered since the fortnight of problems I had. 
I spoke to my GP yesterday and he reckons that it’ll take at least 3 months for my blood to recover from the anemia, separately from the normal surgical recovery (which will be slightly longer for me because of the hematoma and my inflammatory arthritis). 

I’m going to take another week for more recovery and if things haven’t changed I’ll start to make some calls to see if I can have a sit down with some of the medical team to discuss. 

Thanks for the heads up 👍

cheers

Greg. 

Edited by member 15 Jul 2023 at 18:04  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 16 Jul 2023 at 00:08
I think you have unrealistic expectations. Until recently it was standard to get a starting sicknote of 8 weeks after RP and then another 4 weeks if you needed it. Recovery after abdominal surgery uses approx 4700 kcalories per day - far more than you would normally consume so the body has to use up reserves - that's why people feel so exhausted for a while afterwards. By 6 weeks, some men are moving around freely and may be back up to a few kilometres walking but for many, just getting round the block a couple of times is an achievement!

If you try to do too much too soon, you can delay your recovery. The risk of hernia is also significant. Try not to stress so much; it isn't very helpful.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 16 Jul 2023 at 08:33

Thanks Lyn,

To be fair I don’t have any expectations as I have no idea what is normal, abnormal, right or wrong. I’ve never done anything remotely like this, I’ve never even had minor surgery, never mind major surgery. 

I think that’s why I’m always fishing for info, confirmation and reassurance.

 

At the moment I’m just walking around the house and garden.
I guess it’s a bit more complicated for me than a normal recovery because of the anemia. It’s making me exhausted a lot of then time, (standing from sitting can send my heart rate from the 70’s up to the 110’s and 120’s)

 
Also the type of inflammatory arthritis I have plays a major role in fatigue levels. Now recovery from surgery on top is like “inflammation overload!” … cheesus! Gimme a break! 🥴

 

From the info and responses I’ve had it sounds like I’m heading in the right direction at least so I’ll go with that. 😊👍

Thanks

Greg. 

User
Posted 16 Jul 2023 at 13:56

I would say you certainly ARE heading in the right direction Greg. When you think where you were after surgery it seems to me you have done very well.
I hope nobody thinks I was suggesting you start running marathons(or doing anything physical for that matter) when I said I think you need to be proactive with your recovery! What I meant that before and during treatment I was given lots of information, but since RT finished I feel I have been left to myself to deal with the side effects of the treatment. Only by being proactive in finding information and taking appropriate steps to aid my own recovery have I managed to deal with some of them. This forum and Maggies have been an immense help in doing this.

I obviously can’t speak from personal experience, only from the many guys I have met through Maggies that have had surgery and they ALL say the same…you need to be patient and not expect too much too soon,.

I’m sure you will begin to see real improvement soon.

Right, off to watch the tennis…come on Carlos!

Derek

User
Posted 16 Jul 2023 at 14:12
What's "tennis" ???

:)

User
Posted 16 Jul 2023 at 14:33

I knew exactly what you meant Derek, no worries. I knew you meant it in the context of feeling a little abandoned after treatment, I agree and definitely feel the same. 

I think that we should perhaps be given comprehensive literature packs about our post treatment recovery, highlighting things we need to watch for, things that will happen, things that could happen and perhaps even “road markers” to let us know we are heading the right way.

 

Not sure if that makes any sense or not but personally I think that kind of info would be very beneficial and save us wondering and searching on Dr Google 😁

 

One thing that’s keeping me sane is the thought of that ice cold beer in a few weeks. Hmmmm …

I’m sure I could have one now, in fact one of the nurses even said as much, but I think my body has enough to deal with at the moment so I’ll hold off until I definitely feel I’ve turned the first corner. 
I just know it’s going to taste bloody awesome though! 😂🤣 🍺

Cheers

Greg

 

Edited by member 16 Jul 2023 at 14:35  | Reason: Typo

User
Posted 16 Jul 2023 at 15:51

"I think that we should perhaps be given comprehensive literature packs about our post treatment recovery, highlighting things we need to watch for, things that will happen, things that could happen and perhaps even “road markers” to let us know we are heading the right way"

It varies from hospital to hospital. Some hand out a post-RP info pack or paper copies of the PCUK toolkit, some give patients a leaflet with the website address snd phone number to order a copy of the toolkit directly from the charity, some just advise men to come to this website and some don't do anything at all You can download the individual sheets from the main PCUK website.

Edited by member 16 Jul 2023 at 15:51  | Reason: Not specified

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 16 Jul 2023 at 16:55

Thanks Lyn 👍

User
Posted 17 Jul 2023 at 18:06

Well…today was a strange one! It shows how different we all are. 

I’m 19 days post op (with post complications) and 6 days post catheter removal … and today I had a voluntary/spontaneous erection. 😳😊
Apologies if I’ve used the incorrect term but basically it was unaided by drugs or device. 

Maybe my luck has turned. 
Should maybe put an extra lottery ticket on this week 😁

Cheers

Greg. 

 
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