GregJ’s Journey - To Infinity And Beyond!

Hi all

Well that’s that then! 

The anaesthetic, which was one of my many initial fears, was brilliant actually. Haha.
He was chatting away, as he put the cannula in.

Then he said, “this is just some pain killer, nothing to put you to sleep yet. Bit of a cool feeling up your arm. Right, now this is the stuff that puts you to sleeee…..”

Cue waking up in recovery, constantly trying to remove my mask, being gently told to leave it alone … then trying to get out the bed .. I really need a wee! You’re fine, you’ve got a catheter fitted. Hand pulled away and covers tucked in again. Warm blankets all over me.. it was actually lovely as many have said. 

Back on the ward by 7pm. No pain at all really. Very tired of course and woken up every hour until 2am for blood pressure check. 
Apparently I bled a lot and they did fit a drain which needed emptied twice. 
Surgeon said I was just a bit “gooey” … who’d have thunk that was a medical term. It came out yesterday and it had leaked quite a lot, quite a bit of blood on robe and bed, which was a surprise. Sister told me to stop being a drama Queen… it’s probably only about 50ml … to which I suggested it might be just 50ml to you but it’s a bloody armful to me! … like she won’t have heard that hundreds of times. 
 
 I only got 2 hours sleep the night before the op and the night immediately after on ward, we had a very serious snoring problem. Like sounds ive never heard before! 😳

So last night I spoke to the night nurse and she found me an empty day treatment room so I was wheeled in there and the door closed. Absolute bliss! Slept like a baby. 
Feel much more human today and getting discharged very soon, as soon as my lovely lift arrives. 

Surgeon said operation was full nerve sparing so fingers crossed I’ll be “up and running” in 1-2 years  

Pathology report about 3 weeks away he said so toes crossed we get clear margins  

Still a lot of pain from the CO2 but trying to stand and move about as much as possible so very slowly it’s “peeping” out 😳🥴

I still don’t know how the gas is pumped into the abdominal cavity yet ends up in the intestines and colon…does it just get absorbed through?

So all done, definitely not as bad as I thought it was going to be, especially after I was educated by the warriors on here who’ve been there before. 😊

Quite stiff, a little tired, leaning over a lot to try to let a “peep” come out without pushing 😂 … but all in all not bad at all. Definitely nowhere near as bad as I thought it was going to be. 

I hear that having to have a drain is very rare nowadays so most people will sail through it without problems.  I do like to make life as complicated as I can … it seems! 🙈

Take care all and thank you for the support  

All the best

Greg 

I can't say exactly that it was an anti-climax because it's serious stuff but it was about 10% of what I feared.

Walking into the theatre is daunting but lots of smiling eyes (I am sure they were really smiling behind their masks). Lay on the bed and breath into the oxygen mask which is quite hard to do and then the last thing I remember was a nurse with the prettiest blue eyes and then bang, I'm gone.

I wake up (apparently) 5 hours later in recovery with no pain but a couple of inflating devices around my legs that would stay there for 24 hours. After an hour or so I am wheeled back to the ward and I just sleep on and off until tea time. Given a full meal and no signs of being sick or anything.

Nurses pop back in every hour or so to check on temp, blood pressure and the state of my urine bag - still no pain. Manage to get a couple of hours of sleep that night.

Next day the shoulder pain started which is a side effect of the CO2 gas they use to inflate your abdomen. It's the most painful part of the procedure and you will need some good painkillers so don't let them fob you off with a paracetemol!

The catheter is awkward but unless you catch it wrong it's not painful - ask them for someway to fix the pipework to your leg to stop it swinging about.

You will be up and walking around the day after the op and probably asked to shower and then released home. No driving with the catheter of course.

You will have prescriptions for day and night urine bags, painkillers and daily anti-coagulation injections - get some antiseptic solution as well as you need to keep the catheter sterile clean.

That's about it - the wounds heal after a few days, you need to have a bowel movement within 2-3 days of getting home and you need to take things steady for a couple of weeks - as the wounds heal quickly it is easy to forget that you have had some serious internal surgery.

Yep, about 10% of what I imagined was going to happen :)

Thanks Derek 

It’s a right old palava this isn’t it.  🥴

I thought I would have follow up appointments with the urologist, CNS and maybe incontinence nurse but so far no word.

I really need to start exercising but I’m absolutely knackered since the fortnight of problems I had. 
I spoke to my GP yesterday and he reckons that it’ll take at least 3 months for my blood to recover from the anemia, separately from the normal surgical recovery (which will be slightly longer for me because of the hematoma and my inflammatory arthritis). 

I’m going to take another week for more recovery and if things haven’t changed I’ll start to make some calls to see if I can have a sit down with some of the medical team to discuss. 

Thanks for the heads up 👍

cheers

Greg. 

Edited by member 15 Jul 2023 at 18:04  | Reason: Not specified

Your consultant sounds great and very measured. I hope all goes well for you. 

Greg, I’m so pleased for you, and your consultant sounds like a really good one…it makes such a difference when they take their time and show some empathy, which is sadly lacking with many of them.

I hope the surgeon you see is equally informative and will allow you to make the best decision for YOU.

Once you’ve made your choice I am sure you will feel MUCH better.

Derek

Great that the bone scan was clear. What a relief that must have been. 

"Naturally this site is not a place Im comfortable being hugely positive in, given some of the brave super souls that are among us here whos prognosis isnt as positive."

Lordy, if we didn't have some of the positive stories, everyone would just give up the minute they were diagnosed. There is a huge difference between a stoey of a good outcome and a post which denies the possible risks. Don't ever be reluctant to tell us the good stuff!

Met with the surgeon today. He was a nice guy to speak to and although I had a whole page of questions he had already answered 90% of them in his “opening speech” when I first went into his office. 
He went through all my files again, pulled up the MRI’s and went through each lesion in the prostate, it’s size, position and likelihood of capsule breach. 

His gut feeling was that it shouldn’t have breached the capsule yet and thinks my T3a diagnosis will ..or could (of course, no guarantees like Del Boy) be downgraded to a T2. 
At one point he ruminated on active surveillance but only for a matter of 10 seconds or so then discarded the idea and said active treatment is the way to go.

He said although the biopsy showed low grade it is still classed as high risk because of the position of the larger suspect lesion. He did say that it is in a difficult position so the biopsy may have missed some of the cancer cells so the Gleason score may yet be increased.

On a plus note he showed me the position on the MRI pictures and it is at the top of the prostate so he was sure that full nerve sparing would be possible. He also measured, on the screen, the size of my “thingsme-what’s-a-jigg” … not a euphemism!, I just can’t remember what biological term he used for the particular part of my pelvic floor (sorry), and said that in his experience it bodes well for a reasonable return to continence after surgery (again, no guarantee of course).

I asked about my other health conditions and whether they would exclude me from having a RP, in particular my large hiatus hernia. He did not think it would be an insurmountable problem and that the anaesthetist would be made aware and would pay close attention to stomach issues during the op (as in matter entering the lungs). He said likely with the use of PPI meds (which I’m already on) and a stomach “cuff/tube” 

All in all I felt more positive after speaking with him. I have to return soon for the pre-op assessment and if I pass that then it can be organised within the following 4-6 weeks. 😳 All a bit sudden but I suppose better that than worrying about it for months on end whilst waiting.

The hardest part about the day was the 2 hour drive there … and the 2.5 hour drive back. I took a left out of the hospital instead of a right and ended up nearly in the middle of town through heavy traffic. Satnav tried to take me up several closed roads but I eventually found the way out of town….there was one point that felt like driving round Le Arc de Triomphe!….but I just shut my eyes and went for it! 😂

Cheers all, take care

Greg.

Edited by member 20 Apr 2023 at 21:15  | Reason: Typo

Thats really good Greg, it makes such a difference when someone takes time with you…this was sadly lacking for me.

good luck with your choice….it will be a big weight of your shoulders when you’ve made it.

Derek

Same as you, never been in Hospital for anything other than a few stitches. I had no idea what to expect. But the clinical staff really do lead you through the process on the day.

Having the GA injected and going to sleep is not like it's shown on TV. "Count backwards" etc

Mine was right Mr X I am just going to give you something to help you relax and bang that was it, out for count. Probably 4 hours in fact. Next thing I knew I was in the recovery ward asking to get up since I needed to go to work... I really must get my priorities right.

I was fortunate that I was #1 for the day at 8am in theatre so they had me in the night before but yes, staying local to the hospital sounds like a good idea but I doubt you will sleep much unfortunately - but there really is nothing to be concerned about. Just remember not to eat or drink after the allotted time but if you are staying in a Travelodge then that's not going to be difficult :) :)

I had zero abdominal pain - just the shoulders and in my case my back as I have some arthritis in my back and side sleep but had to sleep on my back for 3 days.

Keep smilin'

Great you have a date now Greg. I was nervous about the general anaesthetic too but the team in the anaesthetic room were brilliant at reassuring me they would look after me.

I knew I had to have the treatment so just placed my faith in the team. 
I came around very gently after the anaesthetic and was looked after by a great team in the high dependency unit until I was moved to a ward.

The hospital teams are expert in this.

At one point as I drifted in and out of a very pleasant sleep I realised that one of the nurses in the high dependency unit was the daughter of a neighbour of ours. That was very reassuring!

Wishing you all the best for the 28th.

You will be back on here in a couple of days saying "why was I worrying about that" - really, it will be a lot less than you are expecting.

See you soon!

Haha thanks Chris 

I’m almost looking forward to it now! 😊

cheers

Greg 

Hi Greg,

Hopefully by now you’ll be all done and dusted🤞

Hope everything went well and your recovery is good! Looking forward to hearing you are all good!

Derek

Greg J,

I'm delighted to hear that it's all 'out' at last.

Very best wishes for a speedy recovery.

JedSee.

Edited by member 30 Jun 2023 at 18:47  | Reason: Not specified

Great stuff Greg, so pleased for you and all the best for a speedy recovery.

Derek

Gregg,no personal experience of it, but I have seen it mentioned before and from what I remember it takes some time to clear.

Thanks Chris 

Everyone is different in how the body reacts and you have to remember that it's a fairly brutal operation with the Da Vinci with all the tubes and pipes being pushed into your body and the CO2 inflation is quite significant - they release it after they are finished, it's the residual that causes the issues and irritates the diaphragm which radiates to the nerves in the shoulders.

Your body is reacting to the surgery with the bruising and as the nurse says, pretty normal in a small number of cases.

The high blood pressure is possibly down to you panicking too much - so you need to relax and chill.

Take your temperature every 2 hours to be sure and talk to the nurse again if it spikes but also keep drinking water - you need at least 2 litres per day.

Thanks Steve

Yes I am on the daily injections. 
I think my other medical conditions, mainly my inflammatory arthritis, are adding to the pressure on my body from the surgery. 

It really is a bit frightening at the moment, with heart rate and blood pressure making me feel really ill all the time. I’m hoping it calms down in a few days. 
I think I will run it past my GP to see what he says on Monday. 

Thanks a million for the support mucker 😊

cheers

Greg

Hmm … Houston, we have a problem! 
I knew something definitely wasn’t right, I should always trust my gut instincts. 

I’m back in hospital again, through A&E this time. Blood pressure stayed low and heart rate was taking off like a rocket whenever I stood or moved.

Called 111 and they organised local Dr on call to speak to me. Ended up going to see him 1am Saturday and he took some bloods. Went back home and got a call at 7.30am .. “you have anemia, I’ve referred you to the surgery team in A&E, please get there asap. Your hemoglobin is 50% of where it should be”

So full day in A&E and many bloods and a CT scan later I’m in a bed on the surgical ward with a large hematoma in my pelvis. This caused the hemoglobin drop which caused the anemia which made me feel so awful.
I’m on a surgical ward as I guess they were going to open up again to see if they could stem the bleeding but I believe they think it’s stopped now so I just had a blood transfusion which will hopefully set me back on to better hemoglobin levels. I’m still quite dizzy and lightheaded though. 
I can’t lie, the pain in my abdomen, lower back, pelvis and groin is huge. I’m hoping to speak to a surgeon or urologist today to discuss how this happened, if it will fully resolve and how long it will take. 

I wasn’t sure if I should post my experience so far as it is proving to be a lot … lot harder than I imagined and I do not want to put people off from having it if it’s the right choice for them, but I think on the grounds of balance and transparency I need to show perhaps the other side of a RP. 

I still think it was the right choice for me and would not hesitate to choose it again if I had to relive it over. 

Hopefully things will improve as time goes by. 
cheers all

Greg. 

Gregg, hope things improve soon,at least you are in the right place. Absolutely right to report your situation, it is quite unusual but knowledge is always useful.

Take care Chris 

Hi Greg,

I’m really sorry to hear that you’ve had these issues but at least now you know why and hopefully you will be on the road to recovery soon. I’m also so glad you posted about the issue as so many people opt for the surgery thinking it’s a walk in the park, but it is MAJOR surgery. Most people I know in Maggies have not had such issues but they do have some long term issues with ED and incontinence.

I agree with you that you’ve made the right decision for yourself and All the best for recovery and look after yourself.
Please also keep us informed good AND bad.

Derek

Thanks JedSee

I hope that by tomorrow my hemoglobin levels will be stable. They have started to rise so that shows that the bleeding will have stopped, I’m told….gulp. 😳🥴

The nurses and all the staff at the hospital I am in are absolutely fantastic. I cannot thank them enough for the excellent care they have given me during my stay. Dealing with cancer is a tough enough battle as it is but coping when even the cure puts the boot in is definitely not an easy ride! 

I’ll never forget any of them … heck, I’ve got the scars to remind me 😂

cheers

Greg  

Edited by member 03 Jul 2023 at 20:32  | Reason: Not specified

Greg, you are going through it. I did have fresh blood and clots hanging out of my penis and around the catheter after a simple dilatation. I was was kept in hospital for a few days, the only thing they actually did was flush the catheter.

One rare thing to be aware of is when they put the a suture through the catheter and accidentally stitch it to the urethra. It should be checked at the end of surgery to make sure it is free to move. Make sure you are hydrated before the catheter removal. The catheter should just slide out if it doesn't, insist on getting a urology surgeon to attend to you. Probably not for the same reason but my catheter got stuck on the way out, a quick yank and it came out. My surgeon is convinced the trauma was the cause of my stricture and they never solved the issue. It is rare.

Hope things start to improve soon.

Thanks Chris 

Greg J,

So sorry to hear about your recent circumstances.  It sounds like hell.

My catheter was in for almost 3 weeks due to catching Covid in between surgery and planned removal (after 7 days).  The removal was straightforward - a very slight pull by the nurse, and it was out; no pain, just anxiety, followed by huge relief.

I can only really comment on the exhaustion.  Yes, I had that too after my surgery, but it did pass, and once the catheter was out, I improved quite rapidly.  I hope it will be the same for you.

Very best wishes,

JedSee.

Greg, I have a permanent suprapubic catheter and find I drain better when I am laying down. Keep up the water intake,in this hot weather urine output can go down. You probably don't need telling this but make sure the leg bag is below the bladder and the night bag is below the leg bag. Make sure there are no kinks and ideally the night bag should be supported on a stand.

Thanks Chris 

Greg, you don't need to be thinking of long term catheters just yet , in a few weeks things will have settled down and your will be back to your new normal. 

Catheter bags have changed since I started this journey over nine years ago, back then the bags didn't have an anti back flow arrangement. If the catheter blocked up you could lift the bag above the height of the bladder and urine would help move a blockage, probably not a good idea but it worked for me.

The permanent SPC does affect my QOL but it's amazing how we humans can adapt to a new normal. I much preferred carrying my urine inside my body rather than in a bag on my leg. Your comment got my brain whirring, I do miss just getting up and having a good long pee. One advantage of ED is not having to try and aim that upright morning glory down into the toilet bowl. 😃. 

I like to know facts and data, I like to know where I am heading , even if it isn't a good place to go.

Hopefully the catheter removal we be straight forward but ,be prepared for the possibility it might have to be in a bit longer. If it does stop in a bit longer you won't be getting up in the night to go for a pee. 

My overnight urine production varies from 300 to 1500 mls the lower the volume the darker it is. 

Thanks Chris 

Hi GregJ,

So sorry to hear of your ongoing problems.  I know that it's easy for me to say this, but I do believe that it will get better, and probably quite soon.  Try to hang on in there.  Try to do anything you can to distract your mind while the medics sort it out.  We are all rooting for you.

Take good care of yourself.

JedSee.

Thanks Derek

Tuesday just cannot come soon enough. 
I really want to be back in the operating hospital to speak to surgeon and his team and try get things sorted once and for all. 

It’s do difficult being 2 hours away when they won’t really allow my local hospital to do anything major to sort my issues. 
I feel really helpless at the moment. 

Seeing the blood and the clots still coming down the tube, 10 days after the surgery is just so worrying. I dread to think what’s going on in the bladder!

I hate wishing my life away but roll on Tuesday

Thank you very much for everyone’s support 

Take care

Greg. 

I’m not sure about the ‘striding down the beach Naked’ Greg, unless you’re heading to Fuerteventura where anything goes. If so, I will see you there in 6 months(or before) and we’ll have a drink or three together💪💪💪

Derek.

Well, another 6 hours in A&E. Wound cleaned and dressed and to keep an eye on it. 
It wasn’t fresh blood it’s back pressure from the internal bleed weeping through part of the wound that had opened up a little. 

You actually couldn’t make this up. Somebody pinch me to see if I’m dreaming! 🙈

Tomorrow will be a better day Greg.🤞🤞🤞

Greg, pleased it went well. I was the opposite to you, I could walk without leaking, then when I stopped I would leak. I was lucky to recover my continence very quickly. I would just hang on a little longer when I got the urge to go. You no longer have your upper sphincter, so I am not sure where the pressure builds up if hold on too long. You certainly don't want to put any extra pressure on the new joint. 

You can expect a small amount of blood,a few clots, some bits of scab and debris over the next few weeks. Guys often report passing blood, when we ask questions quite frequently they have been doing too much.

Hope all goes well from now on.

Thanks Chris 

Thanks Chris

I’m not holding it until it causes any pain, I’m just trying to delay before going. I’m maybe trying to do too much too soon am I?

The small leaks come at the oddest of times when I least expect them. Very odd. 
I’ve read here many times that were all different, so it seems. 

There’s been blood twice tonight, only a tiny amount so I guess I just keep an eye on it over the coming days and weeks. Thanks for the reassurance  

I just hope that I can now start proper recovery instead of going back into hospital every evening with yet another problem. My GP rang today as he’s been on holiday for a fortnight and was catching up with what had been happening… I’m sure my recent medical notes gave him some interesting reading! 😳

Take care

Greg. 

Edited by member 11 Jul 2023 at 21:04  | Reason: Not specified

If you are like me you will find sleeping to be OK - I wake up 2 or 3 times a night knowing I need to go so have a urinal bottle by the side of the bed. I swing my legs out to sit on the side of the bed, grab the bottle and put my penis into it and then stand up - flow starts immediately.

Over the last couple of nights (8 weeks post RARP) I am down to 2 times and last night was just 1 - so improving all the time :)

Cheers Derek 👍😊

I’m documenting each stage as I go through it so I can look back in the weeks and months to come and see how far I’ve progressed. 

As I said earlier I wasn’t sure whether to post the “bad bits” but like you I think it’s good to see a balanced picture with real world results. 

I do wish I was one of the few percent that sail through with zero problems and get back to their full normal life in a matter of weeks but …. This is the hand I’ve been dealt so I have to just get on with it. 😊👍

Cheers

Greg. 

Your doing great Greg and good luck with the ‘upwards’ bit.

I got a text this morning from my pharmacist saying that my ‘wonky Willy’ corrector device(SOMACorrect) had arrived so I’ll be doing a fair bit of pumping in the hope I can keep it ‘straight up’ too!😊

you’ve just GOT to laugh….or cry😪 but laughing is better for the soul and your sanity!🤣🤣🤣

Greg, I am never sure about saying normal, it is frequently mentioned and I was still passing a small amount of blood, scabs and debris at least six weeks after surgery. A few weeks after surgery I also passed a kidney stone, that got my attention.

Brown blood is again frequently said the be okay, and bright red blood should be checked out.

Thanks Chris 

TBH Greg, I think many of us feel a bit abandoned after treatment is finished. I know I do, but I think youve got to be proactive in addressing any issues you have to get them sorted.

You know about my issues with Peyronie’s disease, I would have waited probably at least a year to get an an appointment with a Specialist on the NHS, which is why I decided to go ahead and pay privately to get a diagnosis…and now I’ve got what I need to try and get it fixed….on the NHS🤷🏼‍♂️

Also my joint stiffness and aches were really beginning to really affect my QOL…every joint in my body was affected. I searched high and low for a solution as it was getting to me. I’ve come to the conclusion through my own research that the joint ache is caused by muscle loss because of this damned HT treatment. I was already going to the gym but my son told me you have to push yourself as far as you can to build muscle, so it’s not reps that count but the weights you’re lifting. Also asking for advice on here someone mentioned swimming…so I’m now doing that several times a week. I can honestly say I am really beginning to feel a difference. In my view anyone on HT should be given advice and even prescribed a gym membership along with a strict program to adhere to to prevent muscle loss. if you’re in a manual job(we have a landscape gardener in our Maggies Group) you’re  probably working your muscles every day…but if your retired like me maybe not. I was cycling a lot but now I think that maybe that I was exercising wrong so hopefully this new regime will help me.

so, I’m going to keep pumping and pushing in the hope it’s sorts both these issues. I can live with the rest😊

So, if you’re worried about ANYTHING, do you own research and try things out to help. Maybe it shouldn’t be like this but that’s what I’ve found. 

All the best…and keep smiling, it helps immensely 😊

Derek

Edited by member 15 Jul 2023 at 17:55  | Reason: Not specified

Thanks Lyn,

To be fair I don’t have any expectations as I have no idea what is normal, abnormal, right or wrong. I’ve never done anything remotely like this, I’ve never even had minor surgery, never mind major surgery. 

I think that’s why I’m always fishing for info, confirmation and reassurance.

At the moment I’m just walking around the house and garden.
I guess it’s a bit more complicated for me than a normal recovery because of the anemia. It’s making me exhausted a lot of then time, (standing from sitting can send my heart rate from the 70’s up to the 110’s and 120’s)

 
Also the type of inflammatory arthritis I have plays a major role in fatigue levels. Now recovery from surgery on top is like “inflammation overload!” … cheesus! Gimme a break! 🥴

From the info and responses I’ve had it sounds like I’m heading in the right direction at least so I’ll go with that. 😊👍

Thanks

Greg. 

"I think that we should perhaps be given comprehensive literature packs about our post treatment recovery, highlighting things we need to watch for, things that will happen, things that could happen and perhaps even “road markers” to let us know we are heading the right way"

It varies from hospital to hospital. Some hand out a post-RP info pack or paper copies of the PCUK toolkit, some give patients a leaflet with the website address snd phone number to order a copy of the toolkit directly from the charity, some just advise men to come to this website and some don't do anything at all You can download the individual sheets from the main PCUK website.

Edited by member 16 Jul 2023 at 15:51  | Reason: Not specified

Hi Greg J,

Well done you 😀.

Yes, buy that extra Lottery ticket!

Best wishes,

JedSee.

It's normal. A lot of flesh has been cut, burnt and bashed around. The brain can't quite process where the pain is coming from as the nerve endings start to heal.

Pain is also your body's way of telling you if you are doing too much. 

Edited by member 19 Jul 2023 at 14:24  | Reason: Not specified

Hi Derek

I’m ok, I think 🤔 😊

Nothing much has changed so I didn’t have anything to post on my journey thread. 

The main thing is that the bleeding seems to have completely stopped now. I’ve passed no blood, clots or debris in my urine for a good week or so now, so that’s a good and welcome result. 👍

My heart rate is still a concern to me. It regularly goes into the 110+ area when I’m standing and walking. Sometimes even when I’m just sitting, which is worrying. 
I have spoken to my GP and my first PSA blood test is due next week but he is going to do a full bloods test at the same time to see if my red blood cell count and hemaglobin are still going in the right direction, after the internal bleed and the anemia. 

I don’t know why my heart has decided to increase its rate so much. It was up to 100+ in my pre-surgery assessment, something the anaesthetist picked up on, so I can’t just blame the bleed and the anemia for it. 

I also have my first appointment with the surgeon at the end of this month to discuss the pathology result, fingers crossed for that. 

I still can’t lie flat for a long time because of the pain from the hematoma so I’m still sleeping in a reclining chair every night, which is not exactly ideal. I am getting some sleep but I’m sure it’s probably not the best quality sleep. 

Hope you’re keeping well? 😊👍

Cheers

Greg. 

No it didn’t have a less than sign but I’ve just read it on the app I use to access my medical records. 
I have an appointment with my GP tomorrow to discuss the other blood test results and then with the surgeon at the end of the month. 

This is an interesting article I read this morning. 

https://www.topdoctors.co.uk/medical-articles/psa-monitoring-after-radical-prostatectomy

Thanks Elaine

I’m discussing the results with my GP today and with the surgeon at the end of the month .. not sure if I’m ready for what they have to say or not yet. Gulp 😬

Fingers crossed 🤞 

Take care

Greg. 

Thanks Derek

I’ll discuss with my GP today but I think the main conversation will be with the surgeon at the end of the month.
I’m really interested to hear both of their thoughts. 

Good luck with your continued drop 👍

cheers

Greg. 

Great news Greg, really pleased you have had good results and that you are recovering well also 👍

Hi GregJ,

I've tried Cialis and Viagra.

Cialis gave me aching limbs for the first half a dozen times I used it, but then it resolved.  However, unlike your good self, I don't have arthritis.  I didn't experience any of the other symptoms you mentioned, although I think that I have more vivid dreams when I've taken it before bedtime. (?).

Viagra gives me a flushed face and stuffy nose, and sometimes red eyes ( so, a bit like hay fever, I suppose).  I've taken a decongestant which helps.  (Don't use Sudafed, though - it counteracts the Viagra).

Best wishes,

JedSee.