There were others too who contributed and or were an inspiration. Lyn mentioned Andy Ripely in a thread quite recently and there was Old Al and Barry Barrington ((top gun) who gave much of his time and shared his struggle with us to the end, Spursspark? and others. I think the fact that we met these characters made it more like losing family members. I was wondering if anybody had heard anything about George Hardy who used to organise the annual meeting of Bollocks 2 PCa to which many members of this forum used to attend?