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Posted 27 May 2023 at 09:37

I've just finished 20 sessions of Radio Therapy and am two months in to Hormone Therapy by monthly injection.

My blood pressure and sugar levels have shot up. My GP is investigation type 2 diabetes.

Is there a link?

 

 

User
Posted 27 May 2023 at 09:37

I've just finished 20 sessions of Radio Therapy and am two months in to Hormone Therapy by monthly injection.

My blood pressure and sugar levels have shot up. My GP is investigation type 2 diabetes.

Is there a link?

 

 

User
Posted 30 Jun 2024 at 15:13

 David my husband  is taking metaformin, statins, , doxycycline   and  an anti parasitic he is on lifelong Prostap. He is also on a number of supplements, his last PSA was <0.1 

He does not have high cholesterol and he’s not diabetic, most of us have parasites in the gut, and he alternates this with Vermox the anti parasitic or as we call it the dog wormer. 

He has mixed alternative and mainstream treatments, he  is 74 next week, he has a few side effects but he reckons it’s a mixture of age and PCa treatments. 

Leila 

User
Posted 30 Jun 2024 at 17:53

You probably should consider taking Metformin.

There is also a suspicion that Metformin may reduce the rate of recurrence after curative treatments (but not other anti-diabetic drugs). This was discovered by accident in looking for correlations in medical records, and as a result, it forms one of the trial arms of the STAMPEDE trial (but hasn't reported yet as far as I know).

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Posted 30 Jun 2024 at 21:15
Andy's views above are extremely interesting, and seem to echo several people's experience (I think there have been other threads on this).

Personally, I was found to have high blood pressure after going on HT having had very healthy levels a few years before. Now on amlodipine. HbA1c (test for diabetes) was happily in range, but my GP put me on statins for cholesterol - though to be honest the cholesterol was much the same as my last test many years before and it was the "normal" range which changed in the meantime. Like most my age I now take a statin.

It will be interesting to see what that trial finds, the case for taking metformin alongside HT might well be high.

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User
Posted 27 May 2023 at 22:24

I have noticed with some of my meds that they do affect the Blood Sugars but the Surgery still say I am pre diabetes, I just ignore them.

read the paperwork that comes with each medication and it will say in the side effects list any interactions or concerns.

 

Chris.

User
Posted 28 May 2023 at 00:06
You guys need to read up on low carb diets!
User
Posted 28 May 2023 at 01:21

Hormone therapy (at least the injections) often push up cholesterol, blood glucose, and blood pressure, a combination known as Metabolic Disease. You should ideally be having all these monitored and corrected if necessary, but in practice this rarely happens unless you ask. The other thing is that without Testosterone, both HDL and LDL cholesterol are bad, so it's the total cholesterol you are interested in rather that the ratio.

One of the experts in this area has suggested all patients on hormone therapy should automatically be put on Metformin and a statin to counter the effects of hormone therapy, but there is no such official advice.

Hormone therapy pushed my blood glucose up by 1 (but I was still just in the normal range), and pushed up my blood pressure by 25mmHg. I don't think it changed my cholesterol, but I was put on low dose statin anyway about the same time I started hormone therapy, and I don't have any readings for some time after that.

User
Posted 28 May 2023 at 12:24
Agree with Andy. It is the HT that can give concern. My GP of the time took the initiative to get a full set of bloods done as he was particularly concerned about affect on my kidneys.
Barry
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Posted 28 May 2023 at 22:42
I was on Zoladex for 3 yrs (together with 2yrs abiraterone, enzalutimide, prednisolone on trial). Very soon after treatment started blood pressure increased (had to temporarily stop abiraterone, enzalutimide) checked out, started BP tablets and obv still on them now, nearly 8 yrs later. ( guess may have needed BP tablets at some time as my twin brother had been on them for few yrs& 2 sisters were).

Cholesterol increased but gp not too bothered&accepted HT probably contributed, same with the diabetes angle as that became pre diabetic.

Last summer, after routine bloods at GP, started statins tho GP said stats had gone down as a few years after effects of HT but along with age etc good practice to have statins.

Diabetes angle had settled down well enough.

Suppose I was fortunate in that GP accepted that HT has several effects and happy to wait to act, obv there was no 'danger'.

Bloods were still showing a couple of anomalies but slight although Zinc was low and advised to take multivitamins that had Zinc in them, levels will be checked again in a month or so.

So, it seems certain that HT does affect the likes of cholesterol, BP, diabetes plus others but in general things improve once HT wears off.

Peter

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Posted 30 Jun 2024 at 14:36

Appreciate an old thread, I am a Type 2 diabetic wirh no medication just diet controlled and regularly check blood sugars.  I started Prostap3 injections 9 months ago and have noticed in last month sugar levels have shot up, with no change to diet. I have seen there is a link between the hormone therapy and diabetes and was wondering how common this is. Will be speaking to gp, when I can get an appointment.

User
Posted 30 Jun 2024 at 15:13

 David my husband  is taking metaformin, statins, , doxycycline   and  an anti parasitic he is on lifelong Prostap. He is also on a number of supplements, his last PSA was <0.1 

He does not have high cholesterol and he’s not diabetic, most of us have parasites in the gut, and he alternates this with Vermox the anti parasitic or as we call it the dog wormer. 

He has mixed alternative and mainstream treatments, he  is 74 next week, he has a few side effects but he reckons it’s a mixture of age and PCa treatments. 

Leila 

User
Posted 30 Jun 2024 at 17:53

You probably should consider taking Metformin.

There is also a suspicion that Metformin may reduce the rate of recurrence after curative treatments (but not other anti-diabetic drugs). This was discovered by accident in looking for correlations in medical records, and as a result, it forms one of the trial arms of the STAMPEDE trial (but hasn't reported yet as far as I know).

User
Posted 30 Jun 2024 at 21:15
Andy's views above are extremely interesting, and seem to echo several people's experience (I think there have been other threads on this).

Personally, I was found to have high blood pressure after going on HT having had very healthy levels a few years before. Now on amlodipine. HbA1c (test for diabetes) was happily in range, but my GP put me on statins for cholesterol - though to be honest the cholesterol was much the same as my last test many years before and it was the "normal" range which changed in the meantime. Like most my age I now take a statin.

It will be interesting to see what that trial finds, the case for taking metformin alongside HT might well be high.

 
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