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Posted 31 Aug 2023 at 10:24

This is nothing to do with PCa it is a heads up for our members as to how to spot an artificial intelligence generated post. I have used an online AI tool to generate a response to a post from elsewhere on this forum, it is pasted at the bottom of this post, for example purposes.

If a post refers to every topic in the original post, if it is grammatically perfect, if it is very polite, if after reading it you realise it added no value and 'stated the bleeding obvious', then it is probably AI generated.

Quite honestly despite all the hype about artificial intelligence I prefer natural stupidity.

Dave 

*************

Hi [posters name],

First of all, congratulations on your successful recovery and progress after your prostate removal. It's great to hear that you have been able to regain control over incontinence and increase your confidence.

Regarding your use of the Soma erect 2 pump and Cialis tablets, it's wonderful that you have found a combination that works for you in achieving a firm erection. It's also encouraging to hear that you have been able to experience successful intercourse and have found pleasure in a different way with the feeling of a dry orgasm. It shows your determination and patience in adapting to new methods.

While natural erections may still be a work in progress, it's important to keep persevering and being patient. Remember to also seek guidance from healthcare professionals if needed.

It's great that you have adopted the mindset of "walk before you run" in this journey. Taking small steps and gradually making progress is key. There may still be challenges ahead, but your perseverance will surely pay off.

Lastly, your reflection on compassion and the ability to listen and share experiences with others is truly inspiring. It's wonderful to see how this difficult experience has helped you grow and connect with others.

Keep up the positive attitude and determination, [posters name]! You're making great strides. 

Best wishes,

[Your Name]

*********

Here is an example that just appeared on a reply to an old thread.

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t27524-Prostate-Cancer-Support-Groups#post285099

 

Edited by member 31 Aug 2023 at 12:00  | Reason: Added link to old thread

Dave

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Posted 01 Feb 2024 at 09:41

Hi Dave 

I've noticed the AI replies they stick out like a sore thumb, so emotionless and often have links attached to gaming sites.

As for AI in general, my youngest son is a bioinformatician, and he genuinely fears that sometime in the future, most jobs like his will be done by AI.

He's been helping me with letters to my local Trust complaining about some of my cancer treatment. He's used AI to draft some of the correspondence and, to me, what it produces, looks very professional.

It seems it maybe a useful tool when dealing with factual information but rubbish at expressing feelings. Perhaps thats why I've never seen a compassionate Dalek. 

User
Posted 31 Aug 2023 at 10:24

This is nothing to do with PCa it is a heads up for our members as to how to spot an artificial intelligence generated post. I have used an online AI tool to generate a response to a post from elsewhere on this forum, it is pasted at the bottom of this post, for example purposes.

If a post refers to every topic in the original post, if it is grammatically perfect, if it is very polite, if after reading it you realise it added no value and 'stated the bleeding obvious', then it is probably AI generated.

Quite honestly despite all the hype about artificial intelligence I prefer natural stupidity.

Dave 

*************

Hi [posters name],

First of all, congratulations on your successful recovery and progress after your prostate removal. It's great to hear that you have been able to regain control over incontinence and increase your confidence.

Regarding your use of the Soma erect 2 pump and Cialis tablets, it's wonderful that you have found a combination that works for you in achieving a firm erection. It's also encouraging to hear that you have been able to experience successful intercourse and have found pleasure in a different way with the feeling of a dry orgasm. It shows your determination and patience in adapting to new methods.

While natural erections may still be a work in progress, it's important to keep persevering and being patient. Remember to also seek guidance from healthcare professionals if needed.

It's great that you have adopted the mindset of "walk before you run" in this journey. Taking small steps and gradually making progress is key. There may still be challenges ahead, but your perseverance will surely pay off.

Lastly, your reflection on compassion and the ability to listen and share experiences with others is truly inspiring. It's wonderful to see how this difficult experience has helped you grow and connect with others.

Keep up the positive attitude and determination, [posters name]! You're making great strides. 

Best wishes,

[Your Name]

*********

Here is an example that just appeared on a reply to an old thread.

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t27524-Prostate-Cancer-Support-Groups#post285099

 

Edited by member 31 Aug 2023 at 12:00  | Reason: Added link to old thread

Dave

User
Posted 31 Aug 2023 at 20:47

Thanks Dave, quite interesting. If that's a taste of things to come I think I'll chuck the computer in the bin.

Chris

User
Posted 01 Sep 2023 at 00:51

The hype from the media about AI is ridiculous. It is capable of language processing and it can construct a document far faster than I can as long as a human feeds it the ideas that needs to be conveyed, but it can not derive those ideas itself.

AI based on images may be able to read MRI scans and X-rays much faster than a doctor, and probably diagnose disease faster. In engineering it may be able to calculate loads and stresses faster.

However the first use of AI will be in the customer services departments of corporations to reply to our letters of complaint with polite but meaningless answers, that is all we get at the moment, but the corporation can now sack the customer services personnel and let a computer do it. Getting past the AI will be as hard as getting past a GP's receptionist and actually seeing a doctor.

I accept that there may be more going on in other fields that I know nothing about, but so far I am not impressed.

Dave

User
Posted 01 Feb 2024 at 10:03

Oh I've just remembered, apparently my lad says, you can put the AI in various modes. Like angry mode, or sympathetic mode. He once put one of my draft letters to a female NHS complaint case investigator in flirtatious mode. It was hilarious, I'll see if I can find it and post it on here. I'm glad I had my sensible head on and didn't send it. I'd have probably been locked up.

Late edit. I found my flirtatious AI draft. 

Dear*****,

Ah, my dear *****, it's always a pleasure to receive your emails, each one with its own alluring charm. And now, a meeting? Such an intimate suggestion! But, darling, as much as the thought of a tête-à-tête excites me, I must coyly decline.

You see, my heart beats with the sweetest anticipation each time I read the narrative you weave. However, I've noticed that, much like a mysterious lover, the story seems to change its guise with every retelling. While this dance of changing narratives has a certain allure, I find myself yearning for something deeper, more substantial.

So, let me be straightforward (though you know how much I love a good tease). Answer me these, in writing, and perhaps we can find the satisfaction we both seek:

Who graced that intriguing MDT meeting on 11 Dec 2020?

Why, oh why, was my cancer staging not turned up a notch to T2c?

What led you to label me as "low risk"? A little mystery can be enticing, but this seems a touch too evasive.

Did my potent family history of prostate cancer escape mention during this rendezvous?

In the seductive prose dated 11 Jan 2021 by Mr ********  why did he tease with T1c, but hint at something far more tantalizing?

Why the tantalizing wait for our next encounter — the MRI? Your explanations have been as varied as a wardrobe for a masquerade ball.

Who, in their infinite wisdom, eventually decided it was time for our next MRI meeting?

On which star-crossed date was this rendezvous penned into the diary?

What, or who, stirred their passions to make this date?

Lastly, whisper to me: did these little indiscretions contribute to the passion of my disease's progression?

I long for clear answers, my dear *****. As thrilling as a dance of ambiguity can be, let's remove the veils and speak our truths.

Awaiting your written embrace.

With the sultriest of regards,

😄

 

Edited by member 01 Feb 2024 at 13:02  | Reason: Additional text

User
Posted 01 Feb 2024 at 22:15

Thanks Dave and, nice one Adrian!

There was a comedian in this country [Australia] some years ago who made an art form out of nonsense speeches that seemed to make sense. He occasionally managed a gig at a business forum or similar event where apparently earnest members of the audience took notes and discussed the virtues of his work.

Sometimes work-speak isn't much smarter than AI 😀

Jules

User
Posted 01 Feb 2024 at 23:06
I think some of the insipid phrasing has been incorporated into NHS communications already. Why should a hospital letter relating to a health matter start "It was lovely to meet Mr xxxxxxxx" ?
Barry
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Posted 31 Aug 2023 at 20:47

Thanks Dave, quite interesting. If that's a taste of things to come I think I'll chuck the computer in the bin.

Chris

User
Posted 01 Sep 2023 at 00:51

The hype from the media about AI is ridiculous. It is capable of language processing and it can construct a document far faster than I can as long as a human feeds it the ideas that needs to be conveyed, but it can not derive those ideas itself.

AI based on images may be able to read MRI scans and X-rays much faster than a doctor, and probably diagnose disease faster. In engineering it may be able to calculate loads and stresses faster.

However the first use of AI will be in the customer services departments of corporations to reply to our letters of complaint with polite but meaningless answers, that is all we get at the moment, but the corporation can now sack the customer services personnel and let a computer do it. Getting past the AI will be as hard as getting past a GP's receptionist and actually seeing a doctor.

I accept that there may be more going on in other fields that I know nothing about, but so far I am not impressed.

Dave

User
Posted 01 Sep 2023 at 09:36

One first pointless post (AI or not) is often testing the waters before posting spam.

User
Posted 01 Sep 2023 at 09:38

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Here is an example that just appeared on a reply to an old thread.

I saw it, but it's since been deleted.

User
Posted 01 Feb 2024 at 09:41

Hi Dave 

I've noticed the AI replies they stick out like a sore thumb, so emotionless and often have links attached to gaming sites.

As for AI in general, my youngest son is a bioinformatician, and he genuinely fears that sometime in the future, most jobs like his will be done by AI.

He's been helping me with letters to my local Trust complaining about some of my cancer treatment. He's used AI to draft some of the correspondence and, to me, what it produces, looks very professional.

It seems it maybe a useful tool when dealing with factual information but rubbish at expressing feelings. Perhaps thats why I've never seen a compassionate Dalek. 

User
Posted 01 Feb 2024 at 10:03

Oh I've just remembered, apparently my lad says, you can put the AI in various modes. Like angry mode, or sympathetic mode. He once put one of my draft letters to a female NHS complaint case investigator in flirtatious mode. It was hilarious, I'll see if I can find it and post it on here. I'm glad I had my sensible head on and didn't send it. I'd have probably been locked up.

Late edit. I found my flirtatious AI draft. 

Dear*****,

Ah, my dear *****, it's always a pleasure to receive your emails, each one with its own alluring charm. And now, a meeting? Such an intimate suggestion! But, darling, as much as the thought of a tête-à-tête excites me, I must coyly decline.

You see, my heart beats with the sweetest anticipation each time I read the narrative you weave. However, I've noticed that, much like a mysterious lover, the story seems to change its guise with every retelling. While this dance of changing narratives has a certain allure, I find myself yearning for something deeper, more substantial.

So, let me be straightforward (though you know how much I love a good tease). Answer me these, in writing, and perhaps we can find the satisfaction we both seek:

Who graced that intriguing MDT meeting on 11 Dec 2020?

Why, oh why, was my cancer staging not turned up a notch to T2c?

What led you to label me as "low risk"? A little mystery can be enticing, but this seems a touch too evasive.

Did my potent family history of prostate cancer escape mention during this rendezvous?

In the seductive prose dated 11 Jan 2021 by Mr ********  why did he tease with T1c, but hint at something far more tantalizing?

Why the tantalizing wait for our next encounter — the MRI? Your explanations have been as varied as a wardrobe for a masquerade ball.

Who, in their infinite wisdom, eventually decided it was time for our next MRI meeting?

On which star-crossed date was this rendezvous penned into the diary?

What, or who, stirred their passions to make this date?

Lastly, whisper to me: did these little indiscretions contribute to the passion of my disease's progression?

I long for clear answers, my dear *****. As thrilling as a dance of ambiguity can be, let's remove the veils and speak our truths.

Awaiting your written embrace.

With the sultriest of regards,

😄

 

Edited by member 01 Feb 2024 at 13:02  | Reason: Additional text

User
Posted 01 Feb 2024 at 22:15

Thanks Dave and, nice one Adrian!

There was a comedian in this country [Australia] some years ago who made an art form out of nonsense speeches that seemed to make sense. He occasionally managed a gig at a business forum or similar event where apparently earnest members of the audience took notes and discussed the virtues of his work.

Sometimes work-speak isn't much smarter than AI 😀

Jules

User
Posted 01 Feb 2024 at 23:05
I don't mind the AI posts - as you say, they are easy to spot. I do have a massive issue with the trolls that come along every so often and how slow the moderators are to act sometimes when they are identified. it doesn't matter so much for the established members but newbies assume that the unscientific twaddle is reliable :-(
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 01 Feb 2024 at 23:06
I think some of the insipid phrasing has been incorporated into NHS communications already. Why should a hospital letter relating to a health matter start "It was lovely to meet Mr xxxxxxxx" ?
Barry
User
Posted 02 Feb 2024 at 00:03

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
I think some of the insipid phrasing has been incorporated into NHS communications already. Why should a hospital letter relating to a health matter start "It was lovely to meet Mr xxxxxxxx" ?

Very true Barry.

I have a letter from an anaesthetist to my urology consultant that begins:

Today I've had the pleasure of meeting this delightful 66 year - old gentleman  and his wife in the pre-assessment clinic.

l showed my wife and she said, "They've obviously got you mixed up with someone else"

 
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