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User
Posted 11 Sep 2023 at 18:55

Hi All

Does anyone find a vacuum pump really painful?.

I find getting my Willy in the small rubber hole really hard work....not saying it's my todge is big....I understand it's got to be tight.

& pumping it, it hurts around the cylinder flesh being sucked in.

It might be that it's a rubbish pump?

Should I get a better one? 

User
Posted 12 Sep 2023 at 09:21
Normally the pumps have different size rubber caps - small, medium and large. The small one on mine was just too small. It could suck the penis in but once erect it was bl...y painful, even with lots of lube.

The medium works much better but I use it by putting the two fingers of my left hand around the base of the penis, pulling the scrotum skin tight before applying vacuum - that prevents the skin from being pulled into the pump which is again very painful.

My pump (cheapie) can create so much vacuum that it can be quite painful - creating a much harder erection than I normally had pre-surgery. So I have to release the pressure a bit to get it to a comfortable size and hardness.

On the advice of Pratap who is an expert on all thing VED related, I have ordered a more expensive one to see how they compare.

User
Posted 12 Sep 2023 at 10:15

Hi Dry Guy

I had the same problem - once an erection is achieved it was difficulty to pull the penis out of the pump. My solution was not to use the rubber ring at the end of the cylinder. I am not particularly big!  SOMAerect (NHS prescribed if you have a cooperative  GP) comes with different size cylinders. Yes, the skin around the base of the penis and particularly the scrotum tends to get sucked in and can be painful. The technique is to try and create an erection in stages. Also as you create more vacuum try and pull the skin away from the pump. As the penis gets bigger less skin will be pulled in. I won't deny that the use of pump is not without discomfort/pain particularly when the ring/s (I use two rings, medium and large, medium at the base of the penis). Once you get used to the whole process it really is a great way to feel and act young. I am sending you a private message offering more help.

Edited by member 13 Sep 2023 at 10:08  | Reason: Not specified

 'Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it.'                    Richard Feynman (1918-1988) Nobel Prize laureate

 

 

User
Posted 12 Sep 2023 at 20:39

I don't know what pump you have, but a couple of points from what you've said.

The pump should seal against the pubis area, not against your penis. You use a gel/lub to make an air-tight seal, although you might need to do a bit of trimming if you have a large bush down there (but you don't need to shave it all off). It should not be gripping the penis. You might want a bit of gel on the end of the penis if it sticks to the tube wall as it expands, or hold the tube so it dangles at an angle not catching the tube wall. There are non-medical pumps around which seal against the penis, but that's not usually comfortable, and is going to be less effective.

There's an initial training period of 2-3 weeks during which the pump is uncomfortable for most guys. During this period, you are just getting the penis used to being expanded in a way it never has been before. You slowly pump it up, just doing a one hand crank on the handle and waiting 5-10 seconds until that's drawn in blood, before you do a bit more. When you've gone as far as you can, let it down, and repeat the procedure. Keep doing this for 10 mins per day. Don't fit a constriction ring or try to have sex with it at this point. After 2-3 weeks, the discomfort should have gone, and the training period is over.

For penile physio/rehabilitation, you basically keep doing the same as during the training and again without a constriction ring, although you can leave it pumped up for longer before letting it down, but it's still a good idea to do it several times and not just pump it up and hold it for the full 10 mins. That wouldn't do any harm, but pumping up and down will get more fresh blood into it, which is part of the aim. Do this for 10 mins every day, or 15 mins every other day, but not less often.

If you get any bleeding, let it down immediately, and gently pinch the area that's bleeding to stop it. Then avoid using the pump again for a couple of weeks. Pumps shouldn't be used by those on blood thinners (except possibly low dose asprin, but you should ask for medical advice on this). You shouldn't be getting any chafing, that would suggest you're doing something wrong or the pump isn't suitable.

User
Posted 14 Sep 2023 at 14:23
That's EXACTLY what you need to see :)

I suspect you are now on 3 or 6 month PSA tests.

The 'magic' number is 0.2 which is when they will take an interest in any salvage RT that might be needed - but there is a strong chance you will never get to that stage!

User
Posted 14 Sep 2023 at 15:08

Great result. That 'normal range' is deadly. You now don't have a prostate. As Steve says 0.2 would be high. It is a shame many GPs and their staff don't understand this.

You must always know the numbers, never just the word 'normal'.

Dave

User
Posted 14 Sep 2023 at 15:59
The important bit is the <

The testing equipment isn't accurate enough to state Zero - you get some that test to 3 decimal places and some test to 2 - but they are all good enough to show what is essentially a zero at this stage.

User
Posted 14 Sep 2023 at 16:19

Your result says  <0.01,  the sign <  means less than. The less than sign has special relevance: It means that the measuring technique the laboratory uses can't measure anything less than 0.01, so for practical, purposes it is 0. Good reason to celebrate!

 

 'Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it.'                    Richard Feynman (1918-1988) Nobel Prize laureate

 

 

User
Posted 14 Sep 2023 at 16:24

You never get a zero. The machine has a minimum threshold so any report starting <0.x means undetectable on this machine and x is the minimum threshold. My tests are reported to <0.1 some places report to <0.003 . If there is no less than sign (<) then you have detectable PSA. But PSA is not specific to prostate cells (despite its name) so even women have a detectable PSA about 0.01. As a general rule if your reading is below 0.09 the assumption is you are fine.

Dave

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User
Posted 12 Sep 2023 at 09:21
Normally the pumps have different size rubber caps - small, medium and large. The small one on mine was just too small. It could suck the penis in but once erect it was bl...y painful, even with lots of lube.

The medium works much better but I use it by putting the two fingers of my left hand around the base of the penis, pulling the scrotum skin tight before applying vacuum - that prevents the skin from being pulled into the pump which is again very painful.

My pump (cheapie) can create so much vacuum that it can be quite painful - creating a much harder erection than I normally had pre-surgery. So I have to release the pressure a bit to get it to a comfortable size and hardness.

On the advice of Pratap who is an expert on all thing VED related, I have ordered a more expensive one to see how they compare.

User
Posted 12 Sep 2023 at 10:15

Hi Dry Guy

I had the same problem - once an erection is achieved it was difficulty to pull the penis out of the pump. My solution was not to use the rubber ring at the end of the cylinder. I am not particularly big!  SOMAerect (NHS prescribed if you have a cooperative  GP) comes with different size cylinders. Yes, the skin around the base of the penis and particularly the scrotum tends to get sucked in and can be painful. The technique is to try and create an erection in stages. Also as you create more vacuum try and pull the skin away from the pump. As the penis gets bigger less skin will be pulled in. I won't deny that the use of pump is not without discomfort/pain particularly when the ring/s (I use two rings, medium and large, medium at the base of the penis). Once you get used to the whole process it really is a great way to feel and act young. I am sending you a private message offering more help.

Edited by member 13 Sep 2023 at 10:08  | Reason: Not specified

 'Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it.'                    Richard Feynman (1918-1988) Nobel Prize laureate

 

 

User
Posted 12 Sep 2023 at 14:00

Thanks Steve for your reply. 

The pump definitely did cause severe chaffing to my meat & 2 veg area.

The pump would be fine if someone has a little finger sized whidgy but average Joe definitely not.

I need to invest in a better quality pump with 3 caps. Hopefully I'll see a sex expert and get one prescribed.

Just had my first psa blood test(hour ago) after opp & consultant next week 😬

Thanks 👍👍

User
Posted 12 Sep 2023 at 14:02

Thanks Pratap, just replied to your message.

Thanks for your help 👍👍

User
Posted 12 Sep 2023 at 18:59

Thanks for the video Pratap, it's very informative as he did it without the strangulation end cap on.

I've never made it that hard that my foreskin has gone back in the tube, think the pain might not help?

Thanks again 👍👍

User
Posted 12 Sep 2023 at 20:39

I don't know what pump you have, but a couple of points from what you've said.

The pump should seal against the pubis area, not against your penis. You use a gel/lub to make an air-tight seal, although you might need to do a bit of trimming if you have a large bush down there (but you don't need to shave it all off). It should not be gripping the penis. You might want a bit of gel on the end of the penis if it sticks to the tube wall as it expands, or hold the tube so it dangles at an angle not catching the tube wall. There are non-medical pumps around which seal against the penis, but that's not usually comfortable, and is going to be less effective.

There's an initial training period of 2-3 weeks during which the pump is uncomfortable for most guys. During this period, you are just getting the penis used to being expanded in a way it never has been before. You slowly pump it up, just doing a one hand crank on the handle and waiting 5-10 seconds until that's drawn in blood, before you do a bit more. When you've gone as far as you can, let it down, and repeat the procedure. Keep doing this for 10 mins per day. Don't fit a constriction ring or try to have sex with it at this point. After 2-3 weeks, the discomfort should have gone, and the training period is over.

For penile physio/rehabilitation, you basically keep doing the same as during the training and again without a constriction ring, although you can leave it pumped up for longer before letting it down, but it's still a good idea to do it several times and not just pump it up and hold it for the full 10 mins. That wouldn't do any harm, but pumping up and down will get more fresh blood into it, which is part of the aim. Do this for 10 mins every day, or 15 mins every other day, but not less often.

If you get any bleeding, let it down immediately, and gently pinch the area that's bleeding to stop it. Then avoid using the pump again for a couple of weeks. Pumps shouldn't be used by those on blood thinners (except possibly low dose asprin, but you should ask for medical advice on this). You shouldn't be getting any chafing, that would suggest you're doing something wrong or the pump isn't suitable.

User
Posted 13 Sep 2023 at 13:34

Thanks for everyone's reply, I'm going to get a different vacuum pump as I have only got one end cap, which is far too small for me.

Think it's sealed on my penis because it's that tight, but it still feels like it sucks my pubic area in?

Hope to see a specialist soon as bit mixed up what best next step with pills n pump.

Wife is very menopausal so 20mg too strong for everyday.

Head is messed up because I've got to get a chest xray Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

User
Posted 14 Sep 2023 at 14:13
12 Sep 2023

Result< 0.01 ug/L

Normal range0.00 - 3.50

Hope this is good news after prostatectomy?

 

User
Posted 14 Sep 2023 at 14:23
That's EXACTLY what you need to see :)

I suspect you are now on 3 or 6 month PSA tests.

The 'magic' number is 0.2 which is when they will take an interest in any salvage RT that might be needed - but there is a strong chance you will never get to that stage!

User
Posted 14 Sep 2023 at 14:41

Thanks Steve, that's news I wanted to hear!

It's 10 weeks post operation, I see the consultant next week.

I've just looked on patient access where they had the results from blood test yesterday.

That's quick!!

User
Posted 14 Sep 2023 at 15:08

Great result. That 'normal range' is deadly. You now don't have a prostate. As Steve says 0.2 would be high. It is a shame many GPs and their staff don't understand this.

You must always know the numbers, never just the word 'normal'.

Dave

User
Posted 14 Sep 2023 at 15:14

Thanks Dave, 0.01 is low.....shouldn't it just be a big fat zero?

Does that mean there's something left that could get bigger?

User
Posted 14 Sep 2023 at 15:59
The important bit is the <

The testing equipment isn't accurate enough to state Zero - you get some that test to 3 decimal places and some test to 2 - but they are all good enough to show what is essentially a zero at this stage.

User
Posted 14 Sep 2023 at 16:19

Your result says  <0.01,  the sign <  means less than. The less than sign has special relevance: It means that the measuring technique the laboratory uses can't measure anything less than 0.01, so for practical, purposes it is 0. Good reason to celebrate!

 

 'Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it.'                    Richard Feynman (1918-1988) Nobel Prize laureate

 

 

User
Posted 14 Sep 2023 at 16:24

You never get a zero. The machine has a minimum threshold so any report starting <0.x means undetectable on this machine and x is the minimum threshold. My tests are reported to <0.1 some places report to <0.003 . If there is no less than sign (<) then you have detectable PSA. But PSA is not specific to prostate cells (despite its name) so even women have a detectable PSA about 0.01. As a general rule if your reading is below 0.09 the assumption is you are fine.

Dave

User
Posted 14 Sep 2023 at 16:53

Thanks everyone, I appreciate your support, best news ever!

Think I'll crack a bottle of vino out tonight.....feels like a long time since I've had something to smile about with mums death, my cancer & my wife's possible cancer diagnosis.

Hope my bladder can handle it 😬

Cheers 👍👍

 
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