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Posted 26 Nov 2023 at 13:55

I've just started a few days ago taking 3 tbspn of double concentrate tomato puree (for prostate shrinkage to improve flow). Can anyone offer some advice as to quantities and whether a Lycopene supplement is more effective or puree is better. I've also seen mentions of taking it with oil otherwise it just passes right through. I am currently on AS twice a year at PIRADS 2 down from 4.

Thank you for any response.

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Posted 26 Nov 2023 at 23:55
You can do it that way but better to incorporate in your diet if possible - lots of tomato-based recipes available - it doesn't really matter whether it is tomato puree, tinned tomatoes, cooked fresh tomatoes, as long as the tomatoes are cooked in some way.
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 27 Nov 2023 at 00:14

I think cooking oil has to be involved (which will be in tomato puree). I would find eating 3 tbspns a bit much, but I could eat some Bolognese, a pizza and bruschetta with sundried tomatoes quite easily.

Once you get the lycopene in, it will be an antioxidant which will help you not get cancer. If you already have it it won't reverse it. Also I can't see how it would shrink your prostate.

Dave

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Posted 27 Nov 2023 at 12:39

Lycopene isn't very water soluble, so if you eat a raw tomato, the Lycopene mostly just passes through as fibre.

In order to absorb Lycopene, the tomatoes (including skin where it's most concentrated) need cooking in oil which will dissolve out the Lycopene, and then the oil consumed.

Good sources are tomato soup, tomato ketchup, tomato concentrate providing it contains oil (not all does).

I thought it's main claim was on reducing the incidence of prostate cancer. I've not heard of it doing any good once you've got prostate cancer, nor for shrinking the prostate, but it's not likely to do any harm.

User
Posted 27 Nov 2023 at 12:46
Like everything else, just don't overdo it. Too much can cause other stomach related issues.
User
Posted 27 Nov 2023 at 21:16
Prostate Cancer Research (UK) says that Lycopene can help to slow down the progression of advanced PCa and that it may help men on AS but they found no evidence that it helps men who have been diagnosed and treated on a curative basis
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 28 Nov 2023 at 07:50

Watermelon is also a top source of lycopene it will help you produce nitric oxide which is anti androgen it is great for ED too  due to its citralline content It's viagra in a fruit 

The skin of watermelon also contains anti cancer properties but I find it unpalatable you would have to buy organic if you wanted to eat the skin but just the flesh then regular is fine cucumber and courgette skin contain the same anti cancer properties 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by member 28 Nov 2023 at 08:49  | Reason: Add more info

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Posted 28 Nov 2023 at 13:36
Thank you Lizzo for that.
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Posted 26 Nov 2023 at 23:55
You can do it that way but better to incorporate in your diet if possible - lots of tomato-based recipes available - it doesn't really matter whether it is tomato puree, tinned tomatoes, cooked fresh tomatoes, as long as the tomatoes are cooked in some way.
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 27 Nov 2023 at 00:14

I think cooking oil has to be involved (which will be in tomato puree). I would find eating 3 tbspns a bit much, but I could eat some Bolognese, a pizza and bruschetta with sundried tomatoes quite easily.

Once you get the lycopene in, it will be an antioxidant which will help you not get cancer. If you already have it it won't reverse it. Also I can't see how it would shrink your prostate.

Dave

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Posted 27 Nov 2023 at 09:34

Thank you both, very helpful. There's a particularly informative video on YT about this and the Doctor does say that it will reduce the prostate size and some of the comments seem to bear that out. He also does mention about the cooking process is much more effective than raw tomatoes. I will post the link if anybody is interested (if allowed).

Thank you again.

User
Posted 27 Nov 2023 at 12:39

Lycopene isn't very water soluble, so if you eat a raw tomato, the Lycopene mostly just passes through as fibre.

In order to absorb Lycopene, the tomatoes (including skin where it's most concentrated) need cooking in oil which will dissolve out the Lycopene, and then the oil consumed.

Good sources are tomato soup, tomato ketchup, tomato concentrate providing it contains oil (not all does).

I thought it's main claim was on reducing the incidence of prostate cancer. I've not heard of it doing any good once you've got prostate cancer, nor for shrinking the prostate, but it's not likely to do any harm.

User
Posted 27 Nov 2023 at 12:46
Like everything else, just don't overdo it. Too much can cause other stomach related issues.
User
Posted 27 Nov 2023 at 21:16
Prostate Cancer Research (UK) says that Lycopene can help to slow down the progression of advanced PCa and that it may help men on AS but they found no evidence that it helps men who have been diagnosed and treated on a curative basis
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 28 Nov 2023 at 07:50

Watermelon is also a top source of lycopene it will help you produce nitric oxide which is anti androgen it is great for ED too  due to its citralline content It's viagra in a fruit 

The skin of watermelon also contains anti cancer properties but I find it unpalatable you would have to buy organic if you wanted to eat the skin but just the flesh then regular is fine cucumber and courgette skin contain the same anti cancer properties 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by member 28 Nov 2023 at 08:49  | Reason: Add more info

User
Posted 28 Nov 2023 at 13:36
Thank you Lizzo for that.
User
Posted 28 Nov 2023 at 17:18

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Watermelon is also a top source of lycopene

Watermelon does contain lycopene, but you have to get the lycopene dissolved in oil by cooking it in oil before you can absorb it, which is not something you normally do when eating watermelon.

User
Posted 30 Nov 2023 at 08:50

Yes Andy I am aware of that but I do believe that nutrients from watermelon are absorbed unless you have absorption issues
The benefits are long lasting too I was eating watermelon every day and the contact dermatitis on my hands completely disappeared which was an unexpected benefit weeks later it still hasn't returned 

 

Edited by member 30 Nov 2023 at 08:52  | Reason: Add more info

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Posted 29 Feb 2024 at 13:19

Hi all - it's not about dissolving it in oil.  Lycopene is "fat soluble" so you need to consume it with some fat in order that your body can absorb the lycopene.  This can be any kind of fat, but of course, olive oil goes very well from a taste perspective. 

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Posted 11 May 2024 at 04:36

Regarding the use of oil with tomato puree, lycopene is a fat-soluble compound, which means that consuming it with some fat or oil may enhance its absorption. Some studies suggest that pairing tomato products with a small amount of healthy fats, such as olive oil, may improve the bioavailability of lycopene. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10376681/slope

Edited by member 11 May 2024 at 04:38  | Reason: Not specified

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Posted 11 May 2024 at 07:04

As we focused on dietary lycopene levels, we found that men who consumed canned and cooked tomatoes five to six times a week had a 28 per cent decreased risk of prostate cancer compared with men who never consumed this food. The effect was still significant even after adjusting for potential confounders including ethnicity, education, obesity, exercise levels, alcohol consumption and others. Interestingly, we found no significant association between prostate cancer and consumption of raw tomatoes, tomato soup, tomato sauce and tomato-based vegetable juice.

https://www.wcrf.org/cooked-tomatoes-can-reduce-the-risk-of-prostate-cancer/

 

Edited by member 11 May 2024 at 07:08  | Reason: Link

 
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