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P/c and osteoporosis

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Posted 07 Jan 2024 at 13:52

hi,is there anyone on here that there p/c has caused osteoporosis, I now have severe osteoporosis because my testosterone has never recovered have asked numerous times regarding trt but no, I am now only 8st, my psa is still undetectable 0.04 finished treatment 2016 rt/ht.any thoughts please. 

User
Posted 07 Jan 2024 at 20:19

Are you on Calcium and Vitamin D3 and a bisphosphonate? If not, it sounds like you should be. Vitamin K2 might help too, as long as you're not on Wafarin.

You've posted many times about not being able to get TRT. There may be some specific reason they are unhappy to give it to you (such as if they don't think you're cured of the prostate cancer), but otherwise, research has shown that for someone with no evidence of disease who is believed cured, TRT should be considered and past diagnosis and treatment of prostate cancer should not be preventing this. This is a relatively new finding (as in last 5-10 years) and it may be that all your clinicians are out of date. Have you asked for a second opinion at another hospital?

EDIT: corrected an incorrect opposite meaning to what I meant to say.
Also, yes as Lyn says below, check the Calcium and Vitamin D3 and a bisphosphonate with your clinicians, and they should be available on prescription (the last class of drugs are only on prescription).

Edited by member 08 Jan 2024 at 01:53  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 08 Jan 2024 at 00:57
Radar was getting the Zometa infusion although he was worried about it last year and talked about refusing to have it.

Radar, don't take anything suggested here or on Google without checking with your pharmacist that it isn't a conflict with all your other meds. I remember when you got very ill from taking too many things at the same time.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 08 Jan 2024 at 18:06

thanks, I have been taking 1000iu d3 and k2 mk-7 for a long time, I had a zoledronic acid infusion last April I was in hospital next day with a urinary trac infection put me on drips for the night, then sent me home with antibiotics next day, just recently had a blood test, serum creatinine below range, serum calcium level below range, hemoglobin concentration below range, red blood cell count below range, hematocrit below range, also psa 0.04,after all that had face to face with gp regarding results he said they were ok,and that they don't need treatment, I am now waiting for results of my spinal x-ray that I have just had because of back pain. 

User
Posted 09 Jan 2024 at 18:25

it's OK, don't think I will bother about trt anymore am now 75 what's the point, I will just concentrate on my severe osteoporosis. good bye. 

User
Posted 09 Jan 2024 at 19:52

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
it's OK, don't think I will bother about trt anymore am now 75 what's the point,

Testosterone as TRT at your age [and my age too] is still important, not simply for sex drive but more importantly for bone density, muscle mass and strength, vascular system health, cholesterol control and feeling good about yourself. You have been taking some very odd and somewhat risky drugs while not testing the obvious one.

Radar, has your GP or any of your specialists given you a reason for not prescribing trt for you?

Jules

Edited by member 09 Jan 2024 at 21:30  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 09 Jan 2024 at 22:19

Its  lack of estrogen that is causing your osteoarthritis 

Some of mens testosterone is made into estrogen so when your testosterone is blocked by ADT its blocking your estrogen and lack of estrogen causes arthritis 

Good news is you can eat plant estrogens to boost your estrogen  - fenugreek seeds for example are estrogenic I bought some from Waitrose in York just before xmas a teaspoon a day is safe and effective 

Flaxseed oil is amazing for everyone I have a desert spoon every day they sell it on Sainsburys 

Its like you are on the menopause -  you have the same problem - lack of estrogen and it can be helped there are many plant estrogens ( phytoestrogens) I have only mentioned two

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/product/granovita-organic-flaxseed-oil-260ml

 

https://www.waitrose.com/ecom/products/cooks-ingredients-fenugreek-seeds/680690-785032-785033

 

User
Posted 10 Jan 2024 at 01:26
Not helpful Lizzo as you don't seem to have read back over Radar's very long medical history - flaxseed conflicts with some of his other medications.
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

 
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