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anyone tried Vertica device?

User
Posted 12 Feb 2024 at 19:30

It's being promoted as "a safe pain-free medical device to improve long term erection quality from the comfort of your home". 

It's a plug-in device which emits radio waves, warms the penis gently & should improve blood flow.  It has a gap through which you put your penis for 30 minutes or so, 2 or 3 times a week for a couple of months.   It costs £1,500 (introductory £1,200). 

I'd be interested to hear if anyone on this forum has tried it or knows more about it. 

According to vertica-labs.com, re clinical trials : "a pilot clinical study was performed to assess the efficacy of the Vertica®, our RF home–use device to improve penile erections.  The study, done at the Neuro-urology unit, Rambam Healthcare Campus, was conducted on 28 patients with erectile dysfunction and showed significant improvement and enhancement of penile erections". 

User
Posted 13 Feb 2024 at 01:03
It is good to have hope, hopeful oldie but I fear that this would be money down the toilet. The company website specifically states that the trials excluded men who had any pelvic cancer in the last 3 years and also any men with severe ED - the 'amazing' results were achieved with 28 men who had mild to moderate ED. I don't think you are their target group :-(

It would also worry me how many typos / errors there are on their website.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 15 Feb 2024 at 11:02
I suspect Richard had something to do with the tragedy at Tallahatchie bridge as well
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 15 Feb 2024 at 20:25
I could do that for you - £1k, mates rates
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 27 Aug 2024 at 18:08
I had a RP 8 years ago, luckily with nerve sparing, and although my erections were never as strong as pre-op, things worked pretty well, albeit with the use of a ring in the last couple of years as erections started getting a little weaker.(I''m 74). After reading up on the Vertica device, I took the plunge and purchased one on their pre-order scheme, total price £1020.

After using it for a couple of months I have to say things are looking up, so to speak! Erections are stronger and I often wake in the night with an erection, which hasn't happened for a while. After sales service is great, someone is always on hand to answer questions or offer advice. Of course I don't know how it would work for someone with severe ED, but so far so good.

User
Posted 04 Dec 2024 at 18:19
As an electrical engineer, I have been thinking about and doing some research into the background of the development of Vertica for ED, to assess whether behind the glossy website and sleek video presentations by a couple of professors who appear to support the claim, there is any actual evidence.

The effect of radio frequency on human tissues has been studied for decades; the effects of mobile phones/masts, is always in the news. I don’t think the effect of RF on human tissues is well understood. This device claims to help blood flow etc in the penis to help erection and maintain it for long enough for sexual activity. Whether this device can help men with ED problems, particularly men like us who have undergone PC treatments, remains to be shown with credible evidence.

The device was developed by Vertica-Labs Company in Israel. There is one research paper (by the Companies consultant Professor as a co-author) which reports a study carried out on 28 men. The writers claim that these men in a 6-month follow-up trial reported a range of benefits. They also state that the study requires a larger study and longer follow-up period. It seems somewhat unethical to me that the company uses such a hard sell approach, with no clear evidence that it is effective, at a basic cost of £1500 with no meaningful guarantee.

As a retired academic I am always suspicious of such claims. It is interesting to note that Professor IIan Gruenwald (Israel) and Professor David Ralph of University College London are consultants for Vertica. The Vertica representatives who had two entries on this stream I am pleased to see that they have been removed. Also Professor David Ralph who had a video link on the Vertica website has now also been removed. In my experience I am very aware that academics try to build on success stories to enhance their reputations and prospects for promotion and also chase further research fundings.

With the above facts in mind I leave readers to make a careful judgement on whether they wish to invest such a large sum. The company policy has no credible returns policy if the device fails to help, though it supposedly has a guarantee.

 'Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it.'                    Richard Feynman (1918-1988) Nobel Prize laureate

 

 

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User
Posted 12 Feb 2024 at 23:17

So who is promoting this devise, I have never heard of it.

User
Posted 12 Feb 2024 at 23:22
It would have to be exceptionally good at that price!
User
Posted 13 Feb 2024 at 01:03
It is good to have hope, hopeful oldie but I fear that this would be money down the toilet. The company website specifically states that the trials excluded men who had any pelvic cancer in the last 3 years and also any men with severe ED - the 'amazing' results were achieved with 28 men who had mild to moderate ED. I don't think you are their target group :-(

It would also worry me how many typos / errors there are on their website.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 14 Feb 2024 at 19:14

Well I might be tempted to give it a try, if it was £15.  As opposed to £1,500. 

I don't see any mention of a money-back guarantee. 

User
Posted 15 Feb 2024 at 01:01

Im with Lyn on this. I too was hopeful when I came across this ( you know what I mean!)..Too many mistakes on their website. Plus, 1200 bad boys.....Wooft.

Still. I am naturally suspicious of most things.

I reckon Richard Marx killed wee Mary in Hazard, Nebraska.

" I swear, I left her by the river" ( Yes we know,clearly!)

" I swear I left her safe and sound" ( Errm, No Richard, No you didn't!)

Tragic.

 

Jamie.

User
Posted 15 Feb 2024 at 11:02
I suspect Richard had something to do with the tragedy at Tallahatchie bridge as well
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 15 Feb 2024 at 14:43

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
It would have to be exceptionally good at that price!

At £1,200 quid, I'd want it dressed in very sexy lingerie and able to cook a full English the next morning.

Edited by member 25 Sep 2024 at 19:25  | Reason: Typo

User
Posted 15 Feb 2024 at 20:25
I could do that for you - £1k, mates rates
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 15 Feb 2024 at 23:14

Sounds a bargain. Crispy bacon and eggs sunny -side- up, please. 

Edited by member 15 Feb 2024 at 23:56  | Reason: Typo

User
Posted 16 Feb 2024 at 08:38

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
I could do that for you - £1k, mates rates

I'll send it over now what's your bank details? 

User
Posted 27 Aug 2024 at 18:08
I had a RP 8 years ago, luckily with nerve sparing, and although my erections were never as strong as pre-op, things worked pretty well, albeit with the use of a ring in the last couple of years as erections started getting a little weaker.(I''m 74). After reading up on the Vertica device, I took the plunge and purchased one on their pre-order scheme, total price £1020.

After using it for a couple of months I have to say things are looking up, so to speak! Erections are stronger and I often wake in the night with an erection, which hasn't happened for a while. After sales service is great, someone is always on hand to answer questions or offer advice. Of course I don't know how it would work for someone with severe ED, but so far so good.

User
Posted 31 Aug 2024 at 21:00

Hello

 

Can you please private message me. I would like to discuss with you about the Vertica 

 

Thanks 

User
Posted 31 Aug 2024 at 21:02

Maybe someone can split the bill with me and we can share the device? 

User
Posted 25 Sep 2024 at 17:01

Hello

Did you get some good information about Vertica? Could we talk about it?

User
Posted 25 Sep 2024 at 19:20

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Maybe someone can split the bill with me and we can share the device? 

I could share the cost but would probably split the device. 😁

User
Posted 15 Nov 2024 at 12:13

Hi. Could you please give some more information on Vertica results?

User
Posted 15 Nov 2024 at 20:24
Not an expert but doesn't the vertica device only work where the penile tissues are in need of improvement? Not where the lack of erection is due to damaged nerves from treatment?

Reading the way it works (heating from radio waves) perhaps a cheaper approach would be to try drilling a hole in your microwave? Or maybe wrapping it in an electric blanket??

User
Posted 03 Dec 2024 at 14:51

Administrator 

Thank you for removing the advertising feature

 

Edited by member 04 Dec 2024 at 14:56  | Reason: Not specified

 'Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it.'                    Richard Feynman (1918-1988) Nobel Prize laureate

 

 

User
Posted 03 Dec 2024 at 18:32

I have checked. If you open the seal on the box you can't return it and in any case it has to be returned within 60 days. If the makers had any confidence in the product they would promise money back if it fails to show any improvement. 

 'Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it.'                    Richard Feynman (1918-1988) Nobel Prize laureate

 

 

User
Posted 03 Dec 2024 at 18:42

I agree with you Lyn. I had a web-chat with a sales guy who was very guarded. Any real questions I wanted answered he sent me links to the company policies. I can't find any scientific evidence that would make me part with £1500. Viagara type drugs, vacuum pumps, masturbation, massaging your penis etc has shown to be good at rehabilitating the penis.

Their website is as you expect glossy and all promising. Also they have a video by a professor at UCL - difficult to know whether he recommends this device. 

 

 'Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it.'                    Richard Feynman (1918-1988) Nobel Prize laureate

 

 

User
Posted 04 Dec 2024 at 18:19
As an electrical engineer, I have been thinking about and doing some research into the background of the development of Vertica for ED, to assess whether behind the glossy website and sleek video presentations by a couple of professors who appear to support the claim, there is any actual evidence.

The effect of radio frequency on human tissues has been studied for decades; the effects of mobile phones/masts, is always in the news. I don’t think the effect of RF on human tissues is well understood. This device claims to help blood flow etc in the penis to help erection and maintain it for long enough for sexual activity. Whether this device can help men with ED problems, particularly men like us who have undergone PC treatments, remains to be shown with credible evidence.

The device was developed by Vertica-Labs Company in Israel. There is one research paper (by the Companies consultant Professor as a co-author) which reports a study carried out on 28 men. The writers claim that these men in a 6-month follow-up trial reported a range of benefits. They also state that the study requires a larger study and longer follow-up period. It seems somewhat unethical to me that the company uses such a hard sell approach, with no clear evidence that it is effective, at a basic cost of £1500 with no meaningful guarantee.

As a retired academic I am always suspicious of such claims. It is interesting to note that Professor IIan Gruenwald (Israel) and Professor David Ralph of University College London are consultants for Vertica. The Vertica representatives who had two entries on this stream I am pleased to see that they have been removed. Also Professor David Ralph who had a video link on the Vertica website has now also been removed. In my experience I am very aware that academics try to build on success stories to enhance their reputations and prospects for promotion and also chase further research fundings.

With the above facts in mind I leave readers to make a careful judgement on whether they wish to invest such a large sum. The company policy has no credible returns policy if the device fails to help, though it supposedly has a guarantee.

 'Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it.'                    Richard Feynman (1918-1988) Nobel Prize laureate

 

 

 
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