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anyone tried Vertica device?

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Posted 03 Dec 2024 at 18:42

I agree with you Lyn. I had a web-chat with a sales guy who was very guarded. Any real questions I wanted answered he sent me links to the company policies. I can't find any scientific evidence that would make me part with £1500. Viagara type drugs, vacuum pumps, masturbation, massaging your penis etc has shown to be good at rehabilitating the penis.

Their website is as you expect glossy and all promising. Also they have a video by a professor at UCL - difficult to know whether he recommends this device. 

 

 'Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it.'                    Richard Feynman (1918-1988) Nobel Prize laureate

 

 

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Posted 04 Dec 2024 at 18:19
As an electrical engineer, I have been thinking about and doing some research into the background of the development of Vertica for ED, to assess whether behind the glossy website and sleek video presentations by a couple of professors who appear to support the claim, there is any actual evidence.

The effect of radio frequency on human tissues has been studied for decades; the effects of mobile phones/masts, is always in the news. I don’t think the effect of RF on human tissues is well understood. This device claims to help blood flow etc in the penis to help erection and maintain it for long enough for sexual activity. Whether this device can help men with ED problems, particularly men like us who have undergone PC treatments, remains to be shown with credible evidence.

The device was developed by Vertica-Labs Company in Israel. There is one research paper (by the Companies consultant Professor as a co-author) which reports a study carried out on 28 men. The writers claim that these men in a 6-month follow-up trial reported a range of benefits. They also state that the study requires a larger study and longer follow-up period. It seems somewhat unethical to me that the company uses such a hard sell approach, with no clear evidence that it is effective, at a basic cost of £1500 with no meaningful guarantee.

As a retired academic I am always suspicious of such claims. It is interesting to note that Professor IIan Gruenwald (Israel) and Professor David Ralph of University College London are consultants for Vertica. The Vertica representatives who had two entries on this stream I am pleased to see that they have been removed. Also Professor David Ralph who had a video link on the Vertica website has now also been removed. In my experience I am very aware that academics try to build on success stories to enhance their reputations and prospects for promotion and also chase further research fundings.

With the above facts in mind I leave readers to make a careful judgement on whether they wish to invest such a large sum. The company policy has no credible returns policy if the device fails to help, though it supposedly has a guarantee.

 'Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that’s not why we do it.'                    Richard Feynman (1918-1988) Nobel Prize laureate

 

 

 
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