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Posted 25 Feb 2024 at 19:29

I feel like I'm running out of options & would be greatful for any help or thoughts. 


I had my prostate removed back in Jan 23 (age of 51) which was non nerver sparing. I followed the my GP directions of ED pump for 10 mins every day & cialis daily. After many months I finally realised that my days of natural erections has long gone.


The pump with x2 rings will keep it semi but not hard enough for penetrative sex, so was introduced to caverject. Which gives me a really good erection BUT with a few side effects.  The issue is the erection is so hard it hurts & stays up for 4 hours. It means me starting to panic after the 3rd hour and necking sudafed to try to get it to go down. The Viridal Duo Starter Pack 10microgram was my only chance of decent sex, but now the side effects put me off using it. I've even injected less liquid but with the same prolonged & painful erection. 


I'm now feeling useless & inadequate and that my sex life is over.


 


What other options is there...as this is really bothering me & making me miserable.


 


Many thanks BC

User
Posted 25 Feb 2024 at 23:16

Try reducing the dose.


I had the same with Viridal duo but after I reduced the dose to about a graduation of 9 on the 20mcg pack the pain and 3-4 hour erections went. Even with a slighter greater graduation of 10 or 11 I found the erections were painful and were lasting over 3 hours!


 

User
Posted 25 Feb 2024 at 22:48
See lots of other posts on here, Invicorp may be the answer to less painful erections.

You could also try reducing the Viridal dose to 2.5 or lower and then increase until you get the correct response. I had great success with 2.5..

You should also make sure you are not taking other medications like ciallis.
User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 00:06
It seems that you are not suitable for injections - in most areas, once you have had one trip to A&E with priapism, they will no longer prescribe injections for you. (I am assuming you did go to A&E when you had a 4 hour erection?) However, worth asking if you can try Invicorp before you write it off as a lost cause.

I wonder if you might have more success with the pump if you had some coaching from someone. It is a knack to get right but if you are able to get engorged in the tube, the problem is technique rather than mechanical. Many men just can't get on with the pump but some do very well with it - we used to have a member here, Adrian, who only used the pump and was a godsend at helping others to get their heads round it - he helped me & OH enormously in the early days.

Based on your response to injections, I am also wondering whether your non nerve-sparing RP actually was totally non nerve-sparing? It may be worth trying viagra or levitra tablets just to see what happens. But if you do that, do ensure that you take it on an empty stomach and at least an hour before you need it!
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 07:01

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
I'm now feeling useless & inadequate and that my sex life is over.


Hello mate. Welcome to the forum. I'm sorry  to see you've had to find us but I'm glad you have.


I had non nerve sparing surgery in Feb 2023.


The worst part of my journey was when I felt totally emasculated.


I'm a fan of Invicorp.


https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t29845-Hooray-for-Invicorp


See if you can give it a shot.


Best of luck Adrian

Edited by member 26 Feb 2024 at 10:56  | Reason: Typo

User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 10:13

REDUCE THE DOSE!!!!


I am surprised this was not explained to you when you were prescribed cavarject but you should start with 2.5mcg - alternative sides with each injection at least 48 hours apart. Try this level 4 times to see how much of an erection you get and how long it lasts. In my case it was a semi for about 15 minutes.
Then increase it to 5mcg and repeat - in my case this gives me a good usable erection for 25 minutes.
I don't need to go any more than that and can imagine the pain/duration that anything higher would give me - no thanks.


This really should have been explained to you when you had your first injection under nurse/doctor supervision.


One technique to help reduce the erection/pain is to grip the shaft and apply even hand pressure all around it and hold it - this forces some of the blood out of the penis reducing the pressure.

Edited by member 26 Feb 2024 at 10:17  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 10:23

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Since the operation, the relationship between myself & my wife has changed, as we dont seem so close anymore (which I put down to my issues plus we think she's pre menopausul). This is eating me up and really struggle with the new me.


My heart goes out to you mate. I was 15 years older than you and would have really struggled with the side effects at your age.


Even with Invicorp, sex is no where as good as it used to be. There's no spontaneity anymore. As a couple you will acclimatise. There are folk on here who've adapted better than me, but I'm afraid I'm old school, and think, selfishly, if there's no stiffy what's the point.


As I said Invicorp does work for me. There's an art to injecting and hitting the sweet spot, but when you do it works. Within 10 mins you can get an erection good enough for penetrative sex. Mine lasts for about 2 hours. So as not to waste it, for the remaining 1 hour 55mins, I bought some curtain rings and we play Hoopla with it.🙂


I'm not medically qualified and I don't know the chemical.difference between Caverject and Invicorp. But before giving in, despite the risk, if possible, I'd try a give Invicorp a go. 


 


 

User
Posted 25 Feb 2024 at 19:29

I feel like I'm running out of options & would be greatful for any help or thoughts. 


I had my prostate removed back in Jan 23 (age of 51) which was non nerver sparing. I followed the my GP directions of ED pump for 10 mins every day & cialis daily. After many months I finally realised that my days of natural erections has long gone.


The pump with x2 rings will keep it semi but not hard enough for penetrative sex, so was introduced to caverject. Which gives me a really good erection BUT with a few side effects.  The issue is the erection is so hard it hurts & stays up for 4 hours. It means me starting to panic after the 3rd hour and necking sudafed to try to get it to go down. The Viridal Duo Starter Pack 10microgram was my only chance of decent sex, but now the side effects put me off using it. I've even injected less liquid but with the same prolonged & painful erection. 


I'm now feeling useless & inadequate and that my sex life is over.


 


What other options is there...as this is really bothering me & making me miserable.


 


Many thanks BC

User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 09:45

Thanks for all the replys.....im still using ciallis 5 days a week but not at weekends or when I was planning to have sex.


 


Perhaps it might be better to stop taking the ciallis & reduce the amount of caverject injected or perhaps ask for the invicorp.


 


All your help is much appreciated.


 


Cheers BC

Edited by member 26 Feb 2024 at 09:47  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 09:55

Hi,


I was going to go to A&E after the 4th hour but took 2 more sudafeds which seemed to help. The only reason I did not go was the hospital was showing on line of a 3hr wait. The issue now is the thought of the pain again makes sex seem like a risk not worth taking. Since the operation, the relationship between myself & my wife has changed, as we dont seem so close anymore (which I put down to my issues plus we think she's pre menopausul). This is eating me up and really struggle with the new me.


Cheers


 


BC

User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 10:23
Gripping the shaft and applying even hand pressure - OMG works every time for me
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User
Posted 25 Feb 2024 at 22:48
See lots of other posts on here, Invicorp may be the answer to less painful erections.

You could also try reducing the Viridal dose to 2.5 or lower and then increase until you get the correct response. I had great success with 2.5..

You should also make sure you are not taking other medications like ciallis.
User
Posted 25 Feb 2024 at 23:16

Try reducing the dose.


I had the same with Viridal duo but after I reduced the dose to about a graduation of 9 on the 20mcg pack the pain and 3-4 hour erections went. Even with a slighter greater graduation of 10 or 11 I found the erections were painful and were lasting over 3 hours!


 

User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 00:06
It seems that you are not suitable for injections - in most areas, once you have had one trip to A&E with priapism, they will no longer prescribe injections for you. (I am assuming you did go to A&E when you had a 4 hour erection?) However, worth asking if you can try Invicorp before you write it off as a lost cause.

I wonder if you might have more success with the pump if you had some coaching from someone. It is a knack to get right but if you are able to get engorged in the tube, the problem is technique rather than mechanical. Many men just can't get on with the pump but some do very well with it - we used to have a member here, Adrian, who only used the pump and was a godsend at helping others to get their heads round it - he helped me & OH enormously in the early days.

Based on your response to injections, I am also wondering whether your non nerve-sparing RP actually was totally non nerve-sparing? It may be worth trying viagra or levitra tablets just to see what happens. But if you do that, do ensure that you take it on an empty stomach and at least an hour before you need it!
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 07:01

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
I'm now feeling useless & inadequate and that my sex life is over.


Hello mate. Welcome to the forum. I'm sorry  to see you've had to find us but I'm glad you have.


I had non nerve sparing surgery in Feb 2023.


The worst part of my journey was when I felt totally emasculated.


I'm a fan of Invicorp.


https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t29845-Hooray-for-Invicorp


See if you can give it a shot.


Best of luck Adrian

Edited by member 26 Feb 2024 at 10:56  | Reason: Typo

User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 09:45

Thanks for all the replys.....im still using ciallis 5 days a week but not at weekends or when I was planning to have sex.


 


Perhaps it might be better to stop taking the ciallis & reduce the amount of caverject injected or perhaps ask for the invicorp.


 


All your help is much appreciated.


 


Cheers BC

Edited by member 26 Feb 2024 at 09:47  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 09:55

Hi,


I was going to go to A&E after the 4th hour but took 2 more sudafeds which seemed to help. The only reason I did not go was the hospital was showing on line of a 3hr wait. The issue now is the thought of the pain again makes sex seem like a risk not worth taking. Since the operation, the relationship between myself & my wife has changed, as we dont seem so close anymore (which I put down to my issues plus we think she's pre menopausul). This is eating me up and really struggle with the new me.


Cheers


 


BC

User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 10:13

REDUCE THE DOSE!!!!


I am surprised this was not explained to you when you were prescribed cavarject but you should start with 2.5mcg - alternative sides with each injection at least 48 hours apart. Try this level 4 times to see how much of an erection you get and how long it lasts. In my case it was a semi for about 15 minutes.
Then increase it to 5mcg and repeat - in my case this gives me a good usable erection for 25 minutes.
I don't need to go any more than that and can imagine the pain/duration that anything higher would give me - no thanks.


This really should have been explained to you when you had your first injection under nurse/doctor supervision.


One technique to help reduce the erection/pain is to grip the shaft and apply even hand pressure all around it and hold it - this forces some of the blood out of the penis reducing the pressure.

Edited by member 26 Feb 2024 at 10:17  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 10:23

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Since the operation, the relationship between myself & my wife has changed, as we dont seem so close anymore (which I put down to my issues plus we think she's pre menopausul). This is eating me up and really struggle with the new me.


My heart goes out to you mate. I was 15 years older than you and would have really struggled with the side effects at your age.


Even with Invicorp, sex is no where as good as it used to be. There's no spontaneity anymore. As a couple you will acclimatise. There are folk on here who've adapted better than me, but I'm afraid I'm old school, and think, selfishly, if there's no stiffy what's the point.


As I said Invicorp does work for me. There's an art to injecting and hitting the sweet spot, but when you do it works. Within 10 mins you can get an erection good enough for penetrative sex. Mine lasts for about 2 hours. So as not to waste it, for the remaining 1 hour 55mins, I bought some curtain rings and we play Hoopla with it.🙂


I'm not medically qualified and I don't know the chemical.difference between Caverject and Invicorp. But before giving in, despite the risk, if possible, I'd try a give Invicorp a go. 


 


 

User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 10:23
Gripping the shaft and applying even hand pressure - OMG works every time for me
User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 10:29
Not sure any medical staff in the UK are actually competent anymore, my consultant told me to start with the full 20 and work back, definitely NOT good advice.

Re the menopausal wife - it's a bit tricky so make sure you practice on your own first, whatever response you get solo the real thing always seems to work better but not if she is telling you to f off!
User
Posted 26 Feb 2024 at 10:33

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Gripping the shaft and applying even hand pressure - OMG works every time for me


😁


Are you a golfer? It would improve your putting. But I'm not so sure about improving your 'putting it in' 

User
Posted 26 Mar 2024 at 19:19

Is there any reason why I shouldn't pump my penis a bit with a VED so giving me a larger area to inject?

User
Posted 26 Mar 2024 at 20:20

Hi Jerry,


I see no reason why not.


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022534701674378


Only 10 men tested but it seemed to help a couple of them.

Edited by member 26 Mar 2024 at 20:24  | Reason: Additional text

User
Posted 26 Mar 2024 at 20:47

Thanks Adrian, I'll give it a go. I'm not going to continue with Viridal duo if I experience the same amount of pain again though.

User
Posted 26 Mar 2024 at 21:33

Don't give up though mate. See if you can get some Invicorp and give that a go.

 
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