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An interesting Youtube video - Dr Sholz

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Posted 08 Mar 2024 at 13:07
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Posted 21 Mar 2025 at 07:15

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Great video! I have a Gleason of 4+4=8. My Urologist says it’s best to just remove the Prostate. I already have an Oncologist which he said I definitely shouldn’t have my Prostate removed and just have radiation and hormone therapy. From what I’ve read, I’m way more worried about the hormone therapy than an operation. The list of severe side effects from the therapy is bad and long. I guess my question is would hormone therapy still be necessary after surgery? Totally not sure what direction to take here. Also, going for a PET scan next week, the surgeon says that results from PET scan doesn’t change his course 95%of the time.

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Posted 21 Mar 2025 at 08:53

Hi Ruth, HT is not required after an operation, unless the operation fails and you are into salvage territory. BTW your profile says you are age 29, you may want to change your date of birth to give a more accurate age. The best course of action for a young man may be different to that for an old man.

Dave

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Posted 21 Mar 2025 at 15:00

Hi ruthedwards

I have followed the  expert in this video for some years now. He is quite dogmatic and appears to be against prostatectomy (refers to urologists who perform prostatectomies as 'prostate snatchers'!) which is not very helpful. 

Newly diagnosed men ideally want unequivocal answer for their choice of treatment which is generally not possible because prostate cancer is a very complex disease. Unfortunately consultant-bias does not help when urologists and oncologists try to influence your choice towards their speciality.

Most men, if they can, would prefer to have their prostate removed because it appears to promise a permanent cure. However the success of a prostatectomy depends on the certainty of whether the cancer is well contained within the gland, with clear and sufficient negative margin. MRI can help but until the prostate is examined after the surgery you can't be certain. Of course even an MRI can't detect a single cancer cell which may have escaped and lie dormant for many years or may never develop into a serious tumour.

You don't expect to undergo any other treatment if you have a prostatectomy unless you are unlucky or the surgery is not performed competently.

You need good advice. Good luck. 

 

 

 

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Posted 21 Mar 2025 at 16:48

There are no guarantees as many men still experience a rising PSA even if after surgery they are told their tumour was contained, clear margins etc.Then there are not an insignificant number of men with positive margins and/ or ECE who do not suffer a relapse. I agree though that this Dr is not particularly balanced.

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Posted 21 Mar 2025 at 21:07

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many men still experience a rising PSA even if after surgery they are told their tumour was contained, clear margins etc.

I think the most recent figure is 32%. Low risk patients are lower, high risk patients are higher.

 
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