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Stay on AA or Brachy?

User
Posted 06 Nov 2024 at 16:01

I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer in April 2022 and have been on Active Surveillance since then.

My last biopsy, the second I have had, was in May 2024 with result as follows;

Left side Gleason 3+3 = 6 in 2/15 cores. Right side Gleason 3+4 = 7 in 6/15 cores

I am T2 NO and have been advised to remain on active surveillance.

The biopsy in May was as a result of an mri scan which revealed an enlarging right peripheral zone appearance PI-RADS 4 and new tiny left zone PI-RADS 4 lesions. 

Thus the cancer is progressing at albeit a slow rate.

I had a discussion about Brachytherapy with a Doctor who performs the operation and have been offered it if I choose.

I guess the dilemma I have is that the MDT team are advising that I stay on active surveillance and yet I can have treatment which in effect will rid me of the cancer.

My younger brother had Brachy 2 years ago, (PC is in the family) and is suffering no ill effects.

So I wondered if anybody has been in a similar position and what  thoughts were?

Thankyou in advance.

Bob age 65

 

Edited by member 06 Nov 2024 at 16:14  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 06 Nov 2024 at 17:34

Not enough information to estimate progression.

However, you are mainly 3+4 now from what little I can derive versus 3+3 previously. 3+4 is not normally eligible for AA unless the 4 is almost insignificant, which makes me wonder why they are suggesting to stick with AA.

User
Posted 06 Nov 2024 at 17:39
Tell them stick the AA get it treated. Any 4 will eventually kill you so just get rid of it.
User
Posted 07 Nov 2024 at 09:14

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Tell them stick the AA get it treated. Any 4 will eventually kill you so just get rid of it.

Hello mate.

I think that's a little strong. Autopsies of men who've died of other causes show a high percentage had intermediate prostate cancer without knowing it.

This research indicates that dependant on risk factors, Gleason 7 (3+4) can be deemed suitable for AS.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11034964/

Going through Bob's posts, when he was first diagnosed two and a half years ago, his PSA was only 3.3 and Gleason 6 (3+3)

So it does seem to have progressed. What would concern me more, is the disease seems bilateral and was once deemed T3a then downgraded to T2. Either way, it suggests it must be very close to the prostate wall.

Like you and Andy, this makes me wonder why the MDT have decided that AS is still appropriate.

Bob, what's your latest PSA?

Edited by member 27 Nov 2024 at 19:54  | Reason: Typos

User
Posted 26 Nov 2024 at 16:05
Hi Adrian

It's 3.8

Think you mean Bob not Barry lol

User
Posted 27 Nov 2024 at 19:25
Tell them stick the AA get it treated. Any 4 will eventually kill you so just get rid of it.

Not necessarily! A lot depends on how much pattern 4 is contained within the cancer. In my own case (age 74) I was originally diagnosed 3+4 at the local hospital and only given treatment options but a second opinion of the biopsy slides by a reviewing pathologist at The Christie showed "minimal" pattern 4 involvement, ie less than 5% which is apparently regarded as much the same as 3+3. Evidence of this with me has been stable PSA levels over 2.5 years since diagnosis and 3 mpMRI scans in that time (latest earlier this month) showing no change in the prostate so AS was justified.

User
Posted 27 Nov 2024 at 19:53

Sorry Bob, I've amended my post accordingly.😳

User
Posted 28 Nov 2024 at 15:43

Hi Bob,

I was diagnosed in 2016 at 70 with Psa 2.19 Gleason 3+4 =7 with no mo and 5 out of 20 cores positive.

I was offered robotic removal  or Brachytherapy but not AS. I had no problems with the operation and had no real problems apart from ED,

I am 8years + and was signed of a couple of years ago with Psa 0.1,

My only comment is not to stay on AS for too long as there are members on here did that and have regretted it, but i will leave them to tell you.If you click on my Avatar and scroll down a bit you can see my journey.

Regards John.

 
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