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Posted 21 Dec 2024 at 14:52

Hi Folks,

I’m in the process of getting checked out for PCa. I’m 57 having some minor waterworks issues and got a PSA test result of 5.7. That test triggered an MRI scan and they’ve spotted a small lesion (1cm) which has been given an MPIRS score of 4. Getting a biopsy in the new year. I’m taking things step by step. Finding this forum very helpful in knowing I’m not alone and that it’s still early days. Would be grateful for any advice. Have a great Christmas and New Year.

Cheers

Callanish

 

User
Posted 21 Dec 2024 at 18:54

Sounds like you are doing it right step by step. Be sure your biopsy will be MRI fusion guided to get extra bites from the lesion. Keep us posted with your detailed biopsy pathology for best comments from members. Biopsy is fairly straightforward and painless.

User
Posted 21 Dec 2024 at 19:23

Hi, 

Sounds like you are taking things sensibly.

I have just been discharged from urology after my biopsy came back clear. Similar story to yours so there is a great chance you will have nothing to worry about after the biopsy.

Have a restful worry free Christmas and only worry when there is something to worry about 

All the very best,

Mick 

User
Posted 21 Dec 2024 at 19:24

Hi Callanish.

I'm sorry that you've had to join us but welcome to the forum, mate.

The PI-RAD 4 means that it seems likely the lesion is cancerous, however, only a biopsy will confirm or negate that. We have had cases where PI-RAD 4 and 5's have turned out to be inflammation or benign lesions.

Do you know whether your prostate is enlarged, because that itself can elevate your PSA, as can other non cancerous prostate conditions.

Best of luck with your biopsy results. Please keep us updated.👍

 

User
Posted 09 Feb 2025 at 16:32

When you talk with the surgeon, questions I would ask are:

How likely is the surgery to be nerve sparing, i.e. to preserve erections? (That depends where the cancer is.)

How good is your urinary continence likely to be? (Some aspects of your anatomy, and the cancer, and the way the operation is performed can influence this.)

How many lymph nodes might be removed? (The more which are removed, the higher risk of lymphodema.)

What are the chances of a cure first time, versus having to have more treatment afterwards? (The chances of needing more treatment increase with the level of risk associated with the diagnosis.)

If you don't like any of the answers, that could be a cause to look at other treatments or surgeons.

Edited by member 09 Feb 2025 at 16:33  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 09 Feb 2025 at 18:16

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
What are the chances of a cure first time, versus having to have more treatment afterwards? (The chances of needing more treatment increase with the level of risk associated with the diagnosis.)

Is that the same as asking him/her what are chances of recurrence?

I would be asking him/her how good he/she is. How much experience they have and their success rate. All the questions that you could once find answers for through BAUS, but that are now apparently no longer openly available.

User
Posted 11 Feb 2025 at 21:59

 

Hi Callanish.

Sorry to hear your diagnosis.

This time last year I had PSA 6.7. Pi-RAD 5. Biopsy 3+4. I was and am a runner. I opted for surgery, which I had in May 2024. I walked a mile the day after surgery (with catheter in) and continued walking every day, extending distance steadily. I was running again a few weeks later. I leaked badly from the start, but at 3 months things were a lot better. At around 4 months stress incontinence, all but gone. Pathology worse after surgery T3a, rather than estimated T2 - this happens quite a bit, apparently. Negative margins - crucial. Nodes not removed. Having regular PSA tests - so far undetectable.

My running is back to what it was before surgery, albeit marginally slower as I'm a year or so older now. I'm 66.

So a young, fit person with a good surgeon (crucial) and with dedication and a positive mindset can get through this. Your stats seem to be better than mine.

A contact of mine has metastasised PCa. Chemo, hormones the works. In his bones, sadly. He's now back to running marathons.

Take your time. Get your head in a positive mind set. Ignore Dr Google as much of the material is out of date as PCa treatments are moving fast - this I think is important. I got involved in a hospital patient forum after surgery and this point was made and acknowledged by the staff. If you choose surgery, be prepared for significant incontinence (most), but it gets way better for nearly everyone with dedication.

Good luck

Edited by member 11 Feb 2025 at 22:00  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 11 Feb 2025 at 22:30
Hello Callanish

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis.

I’m 55 yrs old, was diagnosed with PCa in October 2024, 3+4 T2c, 12 cores positive out of 25, so similar to yourself. I had a RARP at the end of Nov.

Here is a link that goes through my journey in quite a lot of detail, I hope it can help you a little, and please let me know if you have any questions and I’ll try and help.

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t31069-a-new-diagnosis

There are some brilliant people in this forum that certainly helped me a lot, particularly in the more challenging moments,

Best of luck with it all.

Gus

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User
Posted 21 Dec 2024 at 18:54

Sounds like you are doing it right step by step. Be sure your biopsy will be MRI fusion guided to get extra bites from the lesion. Keep us posted with your detailed biopsy pathology for best comments from members. Biopsy is fairly straightforward and painless.

User
Posted 21 Dec 2024 at 19:23

Hi, 

Sounds like you are taking things sensibly.

I have just been discharged from urology after my biopsy came back clear. Similar story to yours so there is a great chance you will have nothing to worry about after the biopsy.

Have a restful worry free Christmas and only worry when there is something to worry about 

All the very best,

Mick 

User
Posted 21 Dec 2024 at 19:24

Hi Callanish.

I'm sorry that you've had to join us but welcome to the forum, mate.

The PI-RAD 4 means that it seems likely the lesion is cancerous, however, only a biopsy will confirm or negate that. We have had cases where PI-RAD 4 and 5's have turned out to be inflammation or benign lesions.

Do you know whether your prostate is enlarged, because that itself can elevate your PSA, as can other non cancerous prostate conditions.

Best of luck with your biopsy results. Please keep us updated.👍

 

User
Posted 09 Feb 2025 at 15:02

OK so update: after TP biopsy PC is unfortunately confirmed. PC found in 10 of 21 cores, Gleason 7 (3+4), PC on both sides of prostate but importantly it has not spread outside of the prostate. Not the start to the New Year I had envisaged. Has been an emotional rollercoaster the last week since diagnosis. Looking into treatment options now. As I’m young -57- and fit will probably opt for surgery, but would like some views and don’t need to rush things. 

User
Posted 09 Feb 2025 at 16:32

When you talk with the surgeon, questions I would ask are:

How likely is the surgery to be nerve sparing, i.e. to preserve erections? (That depends where the cancer is.)

How good is your urinary continence likely to be? (Some aspects of your anatomy, and the cancer, and the way the operation is performed can influence this.)

How many lymph nodes might be removed? (The more which are removed, the higher risk of lymphodema.)

What are the chances of a cure first time, versus having to have more treatment afterwards? (The chances of needing more treatment increase with the level of risk associated with the diagnosis.)

If you don't like any of the answers, that could be a cause to look at other treatments or surgeons.

Edited by member 09 Feb 2025 at 16:33  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 09 Feb 2025 at 18:16

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
What are the chances of a cure first time, versus having to have more treatment afterwards? (The chances of needing more treatment increase with the level of risk associated with the diagnosis.)

Is that the same as asking him/her what are chances of recurrence?

I would be asking him/her how good he/she is. How much experience they have and their success rate. All the questions that you could once find answers for through BAUS, but that are now apparently no longer openly available.

User
Posted 11 Feb 2025 at 21:59

 

Hi Callanish.

Sorry to hear your diagnosis.

This time last year I had PSA 6.7. Pi-RAD 5. Biopsy 3+4. I was and am a runner. I opted for surgery, which I had in May 2024. I walked a mile the day after surgery (with catheter in) and continued walking every day, extending distance steadily. I was running again a few weeks later. I leaked badly from the start, but at 3 months things were a lot better. At around 4 months stress incontinence, all but gone. Pathology worse after surgery T3a, rather than estimated T2 - this happens quite a bit, apparently. Negative margins - crucial. Nodes not removed. Having regular PSA tests - so far undetectable.

My running is back to what it was before surgery, albeit marginally slower as I'm a year or so older now. I'm 66.

So a young, fit person with a good surgeon (crucial) and with dedication and a positive mindset can get through this. Your stats seem to be better than mine.

A contact of mine has metastasised PCa. Chemo, hormones the works. In his bones, sadly. He's now back to running marathons.

Take your time. Get your head in a positive mind set. Ignore Dr Google as much of the material is out of date as PCa treatments are moving fast - this I think is important. I got involved in a hospital patient forum after surgery and this point was made and acknowledged by the staff. If you choose surgery, be prepared for significant incontinence (most), but it gets way better for nearly everyone with dedication.

Good luck

Edited by member 11 Feb 2025 at 22:00  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 11 Feb 2025 at 22:30
Hello Callanish

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis.

I’m 55 yrs old, was diagnosed with PCa in October 2024, 3+4 T2c, 12 cores positive out of 25, so similar to yourself. I had a RARP at the end of Nov.

Here is a link that goes through my journey in quite a lot of detail, I hope it can help you a little, and please let me know if you have any questions and I’ll try and help.

https://community.prostatecanceruk.org/posts/t31069-a-new-diagnosis

There are some brilliant people in this forum that certainly helped me a lot, particularly in the more challenging moments,

Best of luck with it all.

Gus

User
Posted 12 Feb 2025 at 08:31

Thanks Gus, your thread is very informative! I’ve got an appointment with oncologist next week to discuss radiotherapy, brachytherapy etc so will see how I get on with that. It’s confusing all the options and as I’m youngish I’m hoping for more guidance from the doctors on the longer term outcomes of the different procedures - ie for someone in my position which pathway gives greater likelihood of a ‘cure’ and what side effects are likely. 

Edited by member 12 Feb 2025 at 08:36  | Reason: Not specified

 
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