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Hubby's Suprapubic Catheter Experience

User
Posted 05 Jun 2025 at 12:15

I am adding this note to help any others who have this intervention after prostatectomy as there seems to be little information. We received one leaflet which gave general information but no indication of the actual plan following surgery.

A suprapubic catheter is a tube inserted under general anaesthetic through a hole (punched by trochar) in the lower abdominal wall and into the bladder. It has two openings, one for the passage of urine and a smaller one for inflating the catheter balloon (and for flushing the bladder should it become necessary).

Most of the available information online relates to the permanent use of such catheters for various problems where the open end is attached to a longer tube and urine bag.

This was the situation in the immediate post-operative period and overnight, with the bag hanging on the side of the bed.

The advice was that the suprapubic catheter is more comfortable than a urethral (penile) catheter and that it allows a quicker return to normal urination, because it is possible to urinate via the urethra rather than using the catheter ouflow – what we had not understood is that there would be no urine bag attached at discharge and none provided for overnight.

The catheter opening is fitted with a flip-flo valve which when closed allows the bladder to fill normally and when opened allows urine to be released – into the toilet. What is intended for prostatectomy patients is that the valve be closed for much of the time, they urinate normally via the urethra and then any residual urine is released via the flip-flo valve. Before catheter removal, the volume of residual urine after normal urination is checked and if below a certain volume then the catheter is removed.

Hubby’s experience was that it was extremely painful to urinate for the first few days, there was blood in the urine (expected) including occasional (worrying) clots and that sleep was disrupted by the frequent urge to urinate through the night – at this point we wondered if a penile (urethral) catheter would have been easier!

Things did gradually improve with decreased pain and less frequent urges overnight although occasional painful bladder spasms were an issue. Our next surprise was when the catheter removal was scheduled for day 6. Hubby had found the catheter a ‘fiddle’ and a ‘nuisance’ and was pleased to have it removed.

Removal took place at an outpatient appointment but on a hospital ward. He had to drink as much as possible during the first hour then collect two lots of urine to measure normal output and residual volume. Results were 350ml and 5ml respectively, so the catheter was removed and a dressing applied over the wound. No sutures required – apparently the muscles of the bladder and the abdominal wall contract sufficiently to close the holes and any leakage is minimal!

Is suprapubic preferable to a penile catheter, difficult to say when Hubby has no experience of the latter. Certainly, being able to urinate normally one week after prostatectomy seems a bonus compared to having to relearn the process after 10 days or more with a urethral catheter in place and, despite our anxiety, not having to deal with urine bags was probably a bonus.

User
Posted 05 Jun 2025 at 14:05
I only have experience of the penile catheter but from what I can see, it has to be preferable because it protects the urethra anastomosis.

Sure, it was uncomfortable and inconvenient at the time but it doesn't seem that big a deal 8 weeks later.

User
Posted 05 Jun 2025 at 23:01

I have had a suprapubic catheter for over six years and will have it for life, prior to having the permanent spc I had a urethral catheter on 12 separate occasions. On one occasion I had a spc and urethral catheter at the same time. In the short term the spc was more comfortable than the urethral catheter. Where the spc catheter falls down long term is in the removal. On the twelve occasions of having a urethral catheter the removal was simple and it slid out. I have my long term spc changed every 8 weeks and have had some horrendous removals. Fitting a replacement spc can range from painless to brutal,my change last a  week ago was a brutal change and I am hoping to get it replaced tomorrow. I have only had one urethral catheter fitted while awake and that also required a dilatation, camera and guide wire, surprisingly I tolerated it quite well.

My first spc was done while I was awake and included punching the hole into the bladder, for that I had a shot of morphine. With the first spc catheter I was draining into a leg  bag attached to a flip Flo valve. After 5 days I closed the flip Flo this resulted in extreme pain and revealed that my urethra had been punctured.

As regards the comment about the urethral catheter protecting the new joint, I also thought that was the case but.... I had seen guys on here who had the Retzius version of the RARP who went home with a leg bag attached to the flip Flo , after 5-7 days of free drainage, they closed the tap and urinated through the penis , if they could urinate normally they would return to hospital to have the spc removed.  I have also seen the spc used as the op described( without a bag). As the OP says the hole quickly heals over without the need of any stitches.

Aurwen, did your oh have to get up in the night after surgery or  did he have a night bag. An advantage of the the night bag for me was not getting disturbed sleep. Resuming normal urinating after removing the urethral catheter wasn't an issue and continence recovered, sometimes quicker than other times.

Thanks Chris 

 

Edited by member 05 Jun 2025 at 23:08  | Reason: Last paragraph added

User
Posted 10 Jun 2025 at 08:00
Hi Chris, thanks for your input. So sorry to hear of your difficulties - medical care should never be brutal but sadly in some folks' hands it is.

To answer your question: no there was no overnight bag except for the first post-op night in hospital. So for the first week or so sleep was disturbed and he was up frequently during the night to urinate. Gradually the urges subsided and now at five weeks post-op he often sleeps through the whole night and is completely dry.

Daytime is different - there are infrequent leaks, slight but annoyingly unpredictable.

Best wishes.

 
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