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Posted 19 Sep 2025 at 13:03

Hi 


I am 56 and just been diagnosed Earl Stage prostrate cancer T2 3+4.  I have been offered either radio therapy with hormone treatment of a prostatectomy. Each has its side affects and the Radio Therapy seems on the face the less intrusive in the immediate term but issue can develop months and years afterwards. Also if I have the radio therapy first it could make a prostatectomy not possible in the future should anything reoccur.


If a have a prostatectomy I am worried about the risk of prelonged incontinence which seems to be a real risk. At 56 the thought of being incontinent for months possibly years  fills me with dredd. I might be over thinking and the risk of long term incontinence is low it I would really appreciate some feed back from anyone who has gone down the prostatectomy route good and bad to help me make an informed choice both short and longer term. 


I know that no treatment route is going to be easy but quality of live afterwards concerns me if I am honest 


Thanks 


Rob

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Posted 20 Sep 2025 at 09:43

Hi Rob


I’m also 56 and was also T2 3+4 , diagnosed in March 


like you spent a lot of time looking at treatment options literally driving myself mad with not knowing what to do 


I found that looking at some historic posts in the localised section on here helped me especially in relation to prostatectomy and reading peoples first hand experiences , I must add that when first diagnosed the prostatectomy option was the one I instantly ruled out , it filled me with dread but after more investigations it then became my preferred option as due to another ongoing condition ration therapy, SABR was ruled out


all I would advise is get as much information as possible and get more than one opinion if you can , a private appointment normally costs between £2-300 but can be so beneficial , I also spoke to a few people on here who were very helpful, if you do decide on the surgery route then ensure it is a-high volume surgeon , ask them if it can be nerve sparing , it is also my understanding that they will be able to give you an idea of how confident they are on the continence side of things I believe partly by your urethra tube length , I was told 99% certain I would be ok within months , no real promises on ED though


as you ask about peoples own experience I can tell you mine , the fear of the op was much worse than the op itself , after coming round I didn’t feel any real pain and was having soup and ice cream within a few hours , next day I was walking around the ward with no problems , the only frustrations I had over the next few weeks were the catheter which I struggled with more than most 


I had that removed 12 days after surgery and was dry immediately and have stayed that way , I am now also confident on the ED front but won’t go into detail :)  my surgery was just over 4 weeks ago and I have to keep reminding myself to take it easy as I feel and have felt fine for a while , I do though suppose the real truth will be when I have had my first PSA test which is in about 5 weeks , please don’t take this post as a guarantee that everyone gets results like this so quickly as clearly they don’t and I do feel very lucky but I do think that most of the success stories don’t get heard as much on here as allot of those people are out enjoying themselves and are not on here 


I do though give my surgeon credit for my good start as I think it would have been a different story if I had gone with the first surgeon I saw as I got more of an impression that he wasn’t overly concerned  about side effects and I felt I would be more of a number on a conveyor belt with him ( he told me he couldn’t offer full nerve sparing where as 2 other surgeons both agreed that full nerve sparing was possible and it was achieved 


any questions or queries mate shout out


all the best


Nick


 

User
Posted 25 Sep 2025 at 13:47

It's definitely quite a choice, fortunately some of the clinicians give you a gentle nudge in what they think is the right direction. Surgery was where I was pushed because of my age. As it was explained to me, secondary treatment options are more palatable should I need them later. From a personal point of view I wanted to get back to normal as soon as possible, surgery gave me that route. It's a gamble since nothing is guaranteed of course buts it's an informed one.

User
Posted 20 Sep 2025 at 00:28

What makes you think that you will have a long period of incontinence? Has the surgery team indicated if this likely because of the position of the tumour. Has anyone mentioned if the operation will be nerve sparring. If not these are the sorts of conversations you should be having. By-the-way your score is on the low end of the scale, certainly in a better place than most and it looks like you have been caught early. Long term incontinence is probably close to the top of most mens list of chief concerns so you are not alone.

User
Posted 20 Sep 2025 at 10:33

Hi Nick 


Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. Really pleased to hear it went so well. Fingers crossed the PSA test come back all clear as well. High volume surgeon does seem to have a direct bearing on the outcome. it nice to know as well that I can ask and if needed consider different surgeons.


Rob 

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Posted 26 Sep 2025 at 14:52

Hello and welcome to the group. I was 64 at diagnosis, T2bN0M0 G3+4 and offered AS, RT and RARP although the NHS wanted me to follow the AS route. Ultimately after much research, discussions with family and other sufferers decided on RARP as quite simply I wanted it out and have a fallback of salvage RT if necessary. My MRI showed that I have very favourable anatomy to regaining full continence so RARP in April 25, no real issues (catheter is a nuisance but short lived), been continent since removal, 6 months on back to the gym, 2 negative PSA tests, ER function returning slowly. Whatever decision you make you’ll feel better for having made it as it’s the start of getting on with the rest of your life. Best of luck.

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User
Posted 19 Sep 2025 at 19:16

Hi Rob,


I'm sorry that you've had to join the club, but welcome to the forum mate.


Rather than relying on individual experiences of treatments, you'd perhaps be better to look at statistics on a large sample of patients.


This is a very good video on various treatment options and side effects associated with them. It's London based but the general information it gives applies to all.


https://youtu.be/zYTU94-8pTc?si=1Z29_l8rbTwF6DHI


Whatever you chose, I wish you the best of luck. Please keep us updated.👍

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User
Posted 19 Sep 2025 at 19:35

Thank you I’ll have a look. To be honest I am terrified but helps getting real views, opinions and advice. I not it’s not going to be easy either way and a Journey. 


Rob 

User
Posted 19 Sep 2025 at 20:54
Hi Rob,

Just to check you on one point. It is possible to have a Prostatectomy after RT but it does make the operation more difficult, so not all surgeons will do it.

Agree very much with what Adrian says in the video he has linked to. I am personally indebted to one of those team at UCLH but forum rules prevent me from naming.
Barry
User
Posted 20 Sep 2025 at 00:28

What makes you think that you will have a long period of incontinence? Has the surgery team indicated if this likely because of the position of the tumour. Has anyone mentioned if the operation will be nerve sparring. If not these are the sorts of conversations you should be having. By-the-way your score is on the low end of the scale, certainly in a better place than most and it looks like you have been caught early. Long term incontinence is probably close to the top of most mens list of chief concerns so you are not alone.

User
Posted 20 Sep 2025 at 07:35

Hi Adrian 


Thanks for the link, I have watched it and it was very clear and informative. I think i know which treatment route I am leaning towards. what is obvious is that whatever the treatment. They are all the start of a journey that will be both physically and mentally challenging. 


thank you 

User
Posted 20 Sep 2025 at 07:41

Hi Jim 


It’s only what I was picking up from forums etc. What’s becoming very clear is everyone is different and everyone’s body responds differently. Also the age range, health and lifestyle  of people who go through this is huge. so there is not a one size fits all approach to any post treatment outcomes. It’s still on 72 hours since being diagnosed. Good Information and learning as much as I can is key. 


As sated previously it’s all just a bit overwhelming and want to make sure i make the right longer term decision for my and my family


Rob 


 

User
Posted 20 Sep 2025 at 08:25

Hi again Rob.


Another truly excellent site is this:


https://prostatematters.co.uk/


It's full of advice from clinical specialists.


In my opinion this is a must view video for anyone considering surgery.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fyYTLZpxnB9HaR7O4xQ5Ff58Pj4Cn6ZB/view?pli=1


Again all treatment options are covered.

User
Posted 20 Sep 2025 at 09:43

Hi Rob


I’m also 56 and was also T2 3+4 , diagnosed in March 


like you spent a lot of time looking at treatment options literally driving myself mad with not knowing what to do 


I found that looking at some historic posts in the localised section on here helped me especially in relation to prostatectomy and reading peoples first hand experiences , I must add that when first diagnosed the prostatectomy option was the one I instantly ruled out , it filled me with dread but after more investigations it then became my preferred option as due to another ongoing condition ration therapy, SABR was ruled out


all I would advise is get as much information as possible and get more than one opinion if you can , a private appointment normally costs between £2-300 but can be so beneficial , I also spoke to a few people on here who were very helpful, if you do decide on the surgery route then ensure it is a-high volume surgeon , ask them if it can be nerve sparing , it is also my understanding that they will be able to give you an idea of how confident they are on the continence side of things I believe partly by your urethra tube length , I was told 99% certain I would be ok within months , no real promises on ED though


as you ask about peoples own experience I can tell you mine , the fear of the op was much worse than the op itself , after coming round I didn’t feel any real pain and was having soup and ice cream within a few hours , next day I was walking around the ward with no problems , the only frustrations I had over the next few weeks were the catheter which I struggled with more than most 


I had that removed 12 days after surgery and was dry immediately and have stayed that way , I am now also confident on the ED front but won’t go into detail :)  my surgery was just over 4 weeks ago and I have to keep reminding myself to take it easy as I feel and have felt fine for a while , I do though suppose the real truth will be when I have had my first PSA test which is in about 5 weeks , please don’t take this post as a guarantee that everyone gets results like this so quickly as clearly they don’t and I do feel very lucky but I do think that most of the success stories don’t get heard as much on here as allot of those people are out enjoying themselves and are not on here 


I do though give my surgeon credit for my good start as I think it would have been a different story if I had gone with the first surgeon I saw as I got more of an impression that he wasn’t overly concerned  about side effects and I felt I would be more of a number on a conveyor belt with him ( he told me he couldn’t offer full nerve sparing where as 2 other surgeons both agreed that full nerve sparing was possible and it was achieved 


any questions or queries mate shout out


all the best


Nick


 

User
Posted 20 Sep 2025 at 10:33

Hi Nick 


Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. Really pleased to hear it went so well. Fingers crossed the PSA test come back all clear as well. High volume surgeon does seem to have a direct bearing on the outcome. it nice to know as well that I can ask and if needed consider different surgeons.


Rob 

User
Posted 20 Sep 2025 at 15:13

Hi  rob   Like Nick I was diagnosed in march with 3+4 and opted for surgery.  I am now 4 weeks post op and after my catheter was removed I was dry immediately.   I am 61 and did about 8 weeks of pelvic floor exercises before my surgery which I believed helped.  I wear a pad if I go out in the day time but only for insurance purposes as if I cough or squeeze a little bit of wee pops out ( I’m talking a drip or 2 ).  With surgery the anticipation is far worse than the actual procedure.  The catheter is a bit of an annoyance but it’s only for 2 weeks.   I also did my last injection on Thursday night    Hope this helps.  Cheers. Simon 

User
Posted 20 Sep 2025 at 16:23

Hi Simon 


Thank you for contributing, again really pleased you have a good experience and things are going well. I know everyone is different but feel a little more reassured it might not be as bad as my imagination might of thought. 


thanks everyone I have my call with the specialist nurse on Wednesday and thanks to everyone have some relevant questions to ask. experience of the surgeon, nerve sparing etc 


Rob 

User
Posted 25 Sep 2025 at 11:59

Hi Rob


I have similar results to you, but I'm 73.


I have been to 2 consultants and they both recommend active surveillance, which I understood but was not happy.


I was advised by a member to input my results and age into ChatGPT, which I did. It does an analysis of treatments without the emotion I had. The info was very good and I think I've made a decision.


I hope this helps


 


 

User
Posted 25 Sep 2025 at 12:44

Thank you Thanos 


I have initially decided to look at the surgery route and have a meeting with the surgeon on Monday. observation for me personally wouldn’t be my preferred option. I feel I want deal with  it while it’s relatively low risk. Knowing that I will have to have some form of treatment at some stage regardless.  So I am kind of hoping that my age and general fitness will stand me in good stead in relation to recovery both short and longer term. What makes things difficult to know if you doing the right thing is the fact everyone is different and their personal circumstances are different. Whether I go for surgery or another treatment will depend on how the conversation goes with the surgeon given my individual circumstance and diagnosis. 


I hope whatever you choose you feel is right for you and your circumstance and wish you well. 


 


regards 


 

User
Posted 25 Sep 2025 at 13:47

It's definitely quite a choice, fortunately some of the clinicians give you a gentle nudge in what they think is the right direction. Surgery was where I was pushed because of my age. As it was explained to me, secondary treatment options are more palatable should I need them later. From a personal point of view I wanted to get back to normal as soon as possible, surgery gave me that route. It's a gamble since nothing is guaranteed of course buts it's an informed one.

User
Posted 25 Sep 2025 at 18:40

I'm similar 52, G7 3+4 8 cores out of 19 psa 4 in May 12 now. 


Couldn't hack AS so asked for treatment at Christies,  seen the surgical team and oncologist ?? The radiotherapy consultant from the off recommended Surgery given my age and personal circumstances.  I have the meeting next Wednesday with the actual surgeon to cover ED, nerve sparing, incontinence etc. 


I second guess my decision every day but that's fear of the unknown and I hate not being in control.


But what can you do, I made myself ill reading medical papers through the night :) 😀  and the consultant described me as extreme ( especially as one was in German) much to my Mrs delight. I guess at some point you've just got to trust someone 🤷 

User
Posted 25 Sep 2025 at 19:19

Hi Steve 


Hope you meeting goes well Wednesday and you leave feeling more reassured you are doing the right thing for you. I haven’t had any one so far lean to one course of the treatment or the other. i have literally had to make a decision by finding what I could online and other people’s experiences. That said I do trust the NHS even though my biopsy experience was awful. That most people involved will genuinely have the best outcomes at the front of any decision making. 


i’ll update after my meeting on Monday 


 

User
Posted 26 Sep 2025 at 14:52

Hello and welcome to the group. I was 64 at diagnosis, T2bN0M0 G3+4 and offered AS, RT and RARP although the NHS wanted me to follow the AS route. Ultimately after much research, discussions with family and other sufferers decided on RARP as quite simply I wanted it out and have a fallback of salvage RT if necessary. My MRI showed that I have very favourable anatomy to regaining full continence so RARP in April 25, no real issues (catheter is a nuisance but short lived), been continent since removal, 6 months on back to the gym, 2 negative PSA tests, ER function returning slowly. Whatever decision you make you’ll feel better for having made it as it’s the start of getting on with the rest of your life. Best of luck.

 
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