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Posted 30 Sep 2025 at 19:39

Referral 31.07.25. Urology appointment with consultant 03.09.25 after MRI and biopsy. 


Stage 2 PC (3+4).


MDT advise radical treatment - robotic prostatectmony as features in biopsy more aggressive.


Consultant letter 03.09.25 indicated waiting list 10-12 weeks.


By chance today I spoke with his secretary who couldn't even confirm my surgery will be this year?


What happened to 62 days from referral to treatment? That expired yesterday. The consultants timescale would be 2 months over that 62 days and if we are looking to 2026, well, quite overwhelming.


Should I be asking for repeat PSA tests during the indeterminate wait? I wasn't being monitored and by chance asked for one in July which came back 9.8 triggering the referral. Only one before was 2022, 2.3. No knowing if it is still rising and if a date can't be provided, I could deteriorate without knowing if I'm not monitored. 


Was told waiting list determined by referral date and 34 men ahead of me with 3 surgeons doing 1 to 2 operations per week. 


James Cook University Hospital, Middlesbrough. 


Lost a lot of trust and feel misled and just left at risk. 


 

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Posted 01 Oct 2025 at 08:03

Hi Matt,


I think three months is quite normal to be waiting for surgery. I waited longer than that with Gleason 8, later upgraded to 9 (4+5), and a T3 staging.


As for targets, to me they are no more than promises that are rarely kept.


It would probably be pointless having another intermediate PSA check. If it had increased, I doubt it would put you higher up the waiting list.


Good luck, mate. 👍

Edited by member 01 Oct 2025 at 08:06  | Reason: Typo

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Posted 01 Oct 2025 at 08:13
Thanks Adrian.

I think I have things a bit more in perspective. I am looking at something up to potemtially a six month delay and I have read the risk can increase past a three month delay.

If it does go past six months, the anaesthetic appointment will have to be re-done. I was told it is good for six months though some Trusts would renew after three months and in the USA, much more litigious, it is only valid for 24-hours!

What gets me is that active monitoring isn't an option, but I am being left dangling without treatment or monitoring. I could accept that if there was a timeline, but with there being no committment, I have to question why monitoring hasn't been discussed, particularly as I was not being monitored before diagnosis and the cancer was caught entirely bu luck.

I have sent some questions to the lead nurse in cancer urology about these issues and might feel some reassurance when I get a response.

M
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Posted 01 Oct 2025 at 10:40

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
If it does go past six months, the anaesthetic appointment will have to be re-done. I was told it is good for six months though some Trusts would renew after three months


Hello again mate.


The aneathetist's appointment is part of the  pre-op assessment in my Trust and they're done on the same day. They are only valid for three months.


My wait for surgery was a bit of a nightmare.


With a high Gleason score and capsular breach. I wanted to be done ASAP.


I was diagnosed in Aug 2022 and was later scheduled for the op that Nov. Despite having a troublesome heart condition, the preassement deemed me fit for surgery.


I psyched myself up for the operation. I had to book in the hospital at 0730 hrs. They telephoned me at 0630 cancelling the op due to bed shortages. I was gutted.


They next scheduled me for surgery in Dec 2023. I again psyched myself up for surgery. I was duely admitted to hospital and was all gowned up and ready to go. Then, at the very last minute, the aneathetist doing the op, despite his collegue giving me the green light at preassessment, had doubts about my cardiological problems. They cancelled the op yet again. I couldn't believe it. Both me and my wife were distraught.


By this time, I was sick of being messed about, and started to take control of my own treatment. I personally contacted my cardiology consultant and explained my dilemma. He was great. Within a couple of weeks, he'd re-examined my heart and sent a report to the aneathetist saying that, in his opinion, I was fit for surgery. By this time my first preassessment had run out and I had to have another.


I eventually had RARP in Feb. It was completely unproblematic.


However, less than two months later, I had a heart attack - as if to prove Murphy's law.


It was awful being in a cardiology ward for two weeks, so soon after prostate surgery. I was wired up to a heart monitor, and leaking like a sieve. It's a wonder I didn't electrocute myself. 😁


Looking back, I can laugh at my misfortune, but at the time, it wasn't funny.


Anyway, up to now, all is well. My PSA is undetectable, and the stents they put in my heart seem to have sorted that problem.

Edited by member 01 Oct 2025 at 11:25  | Reason: Additional text

User
Posted 01 Oct 2025 at 10:40

Hi there Matt


I was James Cook too and had a similar experience. I had my final review, post biopsy, bone scan and so on in June 20 2024 and chose a Robotic Prostatectomy. The consultant thought the waiting list was about 8 weeks but a nurse told hime 10-12. That would have seen my operation around the end of August, beginning September. I had my pre op at The Friarage on July 10 when no-one knew when the big event would happen. Two weeks later, July 24, I was sent a letter with date as the morning of August 16. Which happened some 8 weeks after the June 20 date.


I'm 76 and had a PSA of 8.9, Gleason 7(4+3) and was advised that, because of the 'relatively short time ' between diagnosis and operation, there was no point putting me on Hormone treatment as there wasn't going to be much, if any change. So any form of surveillance wasn't needed either.


I found the Urology staff to be helpful so suggest you keep in touch about your date. Absence of communication didn't mean nothing was happening in my case.

User
Posted 01 Oct 2025 at 10:55

Thanks Adrian for sharing. You were put through the ringer.


Glad all seems to have worked out well.


 


Matthew

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Posted 01 Oct 2025 at 11:02

Thanks Broomfield for sharing.


I spoke to one of the urology cancer nurses yesterday and think I casually mentioned the wait I was anticipating based on what I was told by the consultant and confirmed in his follow-up letter.


The nurse provided me with the consultant's secretary's details having told me the October list was full and I wasn't on it.


The secretary was helpful to a point, but ultimately could not confirm my surgery would even be this year.


I don't consider it is acceptable to leave me hanging with no proposed timescale and no monintoring.


The secretary told me she would email the lead nurse and ask him to call me and I have sent some questions for him which outline my concerns. I've had no contact yet, though it has only been 24 hours.


I appreciate the pressure on resources and can accept the 62-day timescale for treatment to start after referral is no more than aspirational. What I think is unacceptable is the misleading timescale followed by no timescale which leave me worried about the risks caused by delay, particularly when the delay is so open-ended.


I did lose a night's sleep last night over this and it is pretty disappointing as the referral to diagnosis phased happened in 30 days.


 

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Posted 01 Oct 2025 at 12:08

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


Thanks Adrian for sharing. You were put through the ringer.


Glad all seems to have worked out well


Cheers, pal.


I'm sure that your wait will go much smoother than mine. I've not heard anyone else on here reporting any surgery cancellations or unnecessary delays. I think, I was just unlucky.


The main purpose of my tale was to reassure you that even with a high grade and T3 cancer, the 5/6 month delay didn't cause me any problems. Like you, I was concerned about disease progression during the waiting time. However, my consultant told me, that there had been numerous cancellations and delays during Covid restrictions and there was no evidence suggesting that they led to worse outcomes.


To be fair to them, they have given you a timescale between 10 - 12 weeks, which although it might not be 'on target' doesn't seem unreasonable.


Whist I was waiting, I often wondered, if those diagnosed after me and more at risk, would leapfrog me on the list. Of course, I wouldn't have objected had that been the case. I'm still not sure whether waiting lists for PCa surgery, is on a first come, first served basis or prioritised?


As for monitoring, I don't think it's usual to have further checks whilst awaiting surgery.


 

Edited by member 01 Oct 2025 at 12:16  | Reason: Additional text

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Posted 01 Oct 2025 at 14:26

Hi all. I had a similar issue this year when I elected to have surgery.  I was left hanging in limbo not knowing when it was going to be done.  I was advised ( by a McMillan nurse ) to contact PALS.    I did this on the Friday and on the following Tuesday I had a call off a secretary with a date ,albeit 8 weeks away.   I mentioned the effect the anxiety was having on my mental health     Cheers Simon 

 
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