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Arguement for taking Vit D

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Posted 17 Oct 2025 at 15:49

HI,


Sometimes members ask what might benefit them when diagnosed with PCa (apart from the usual medical treatment).  I came upon this today and feel it is worthy of consideration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjtROU1MeTo


 

Barry
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Posted 17 Oct 2025 at 15:49

HI,


Sometimes members ask what might benefit them when diagnosed with PCa (apart from the usual medical treatment).  I came upon this today and feel it is worthy of consideration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjtROU1MeTo


 

Barry
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Posted 24 Nov 2025 at 04:08

Hi Peter,


Interesting that you linked to a lecture on Nitric Oxide. I have been following a series of podcasts in which Steven Bartlett (known as one of the dragons in Dragon's Den), interviews experts in various fields and one of these is with an ardent advocate for sufficient Nitric Oxide. His views seem largely consistent with those of Dr Esselstyn. A link to this particular long podcast is here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zECoaEZRRFU


This was one of the podcasts in Steven Bartlett's series 'Diary of a CEO'

Edited by member 24 Nov 2025 at 04:10  | Reason: to highlight link

Barry
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Posted 17 Oct 2025 at 23:37
Don't forget your K2 too....
User
Posted 24 Nov 2025 at 09:55

Thanks Barry, that's new to me.  The work of Tim Spector at Zoe focuses on the gut microbiome for health, Dr Esselstyn focuses on plant food to stimulate nitric acid to improve heart arteries. Now this which is more broad brushed supporting Nitric Oxide.  


It was my dentist who gave me the link to Esselstyn last week. After this video I can't wait to ask him if I really should be cleaning my teeth especially with fluoride, then taping my mouth and asking why he isn't using a CT scanner instead of Xrays. Although he's the sort who's probably already seen this.


There are common links to all this scientifically.  Also that they're all selling books and other products. Taking bits from each is the path I prefer as it's a bit extreme. Cheers, Peter

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User
Posted 17 Oct 2025 at 19:06

 I’ve listened to a number of his YouTube videos, I think he well worth listening to.Thanks Barry. 

User
Posted 17 Oct 2025 at 21:50

Do read his Wikipedia page.


Note that he was a nurse, not a (medical) doctor.


Although he was highly praised for his videos at the beginning of COVID, this certainly hasn't been the case more recently, where he's been criticised for misleading information.


I think I listened to his Vitamin D video some time ago and found it good though.


For some cancers, some centres tell patients to stop taking Vitamin D during radiotherapy, because it's an anti-oxidant, whereas the whole object of radiotherapy is to create free radicals to corrupt DNA, which is what anti-oxidants are trying to avoid. I've never heard this advice given to prostate cancer patients though, and I suspect the radiotherapy would be swamping out any anti-oxidant activity.

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User
Posted 17 Oct 2025 at 23:37
Don't forget your K2 too....
User
Posted 17 Oct 2025 at 23:40

More generally, for men on HT, lack of testosterone can lead to lower bone density. Taking a calcium supplement might not be adequate if the calcium isn't being absorbed. Vit D aids in making calcium available for bone density maintenance. It's possible to over-do calcium supplements leading to kidney problems while still not being able to use the calcium due to low Vit D levels. Calcium and Vit D levels can be checked by blood tests. Well worth asking your friendly GP so as to get a handle on all the variables that can be changed by hormone therapy. 


Vit D might be adequately provided by sunlight in summer but winter makes it harder to get your levels up so a supplement can help. There's a once a week pill available.


Jules

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Posted 18 Oct 2025 at 03:57
I was put on Vit D by my GP about 6 years ago, although not for PCa reasons but am happy for any help it offers. My dental Implantologist was surprised that one of my implants had not taken and it was he who asked my GP to check on 3 things, and the only one was Vit D deficiency. This deficiency may well have been due to my having been told to cover up and keep out of the sun as much as possible as several years previously I had had some skin removed from my back because of Lentigo Melanoma, an early form of skin cancer.
Barry
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Posted 23 Nov 2025 at 17:45

I am sure I read somewhere in the statistics that PCa effects more men in higher latitudes, Scandinavia Canada etc than it does our friends in sunnier climes.  The theory being that short winter days = lack of sunlight = lack of vitamin D.  Reason enough to take supplement, and if you get the chance a holiday in the sun?

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Posted 23 Nov 2025 at 19:40

I haven't checked the video as I know who you're talking about and gave up watching him when I decided I no longer agreed on Covid. He was then taking several multiples of the daily recommended dose of VitD as well which seemed excessive. On Zoe videos a specialist said that if you eat too much VitD your body can have too much. Whereas if you get it from sun your body tempers it. He thought excess risky.


They also say you need to eat fat for VitD food to be absorbed, also it's said K2 helps.  It gets so complicated that in my opinion taking VitD tablets alone plus the food and some sun is probably enough.


I also wonder if my osteoporosis was caused by not going in the sun since getting skin cancer in 2008. I've been taking VitD for years and eating oily fish but maybe not enough.


 

User
Posted 23 Nov 2025 at 22:47

With some careful transcription, the pubmed link that's referred to in the clip Barry mentioned is:


Vit D link to prostate cancer


Barry mentioned said that his GP had mentioned several things to keep an eye on. My GP has been encouraging me, aided by blood tests, to keep an eye on the following, all of which can be exacerbated by going through hormone treatment, or just by ageing:


Cholesterol: My levels went up slightly as a result of HT but are well down into the acceptable range thanks to statins. 10mg made a big difference but I'm now trying 20mg and that has things well in hand. Problems with cholesterol reach beyond hardening of the arteries as it can also hasten dementia by its effects on the brain's vascular system.


Calcium: Low uptake of calcium can cause osteopaenia or develop into more serious osteoporosis. My own treatment was preceded by a bone density scan and followed by bone density scans every couple of years, so while I definitely moved into ostopaenia during HT, that trend seems to have stopped and gone into reverse in the two years since testosterone returned. If testosterone returns, it helps bring things back on track. To repeat, excess calcium can cause problems, kidney stones I believe. 


Vit D: I mentioned this above but just adding to it slightly. First up, it's possible to have your blood calcium levels checked. It's also possible to have your blood Vit D levels checked and like everything else, there's a recommended range, so it's not guesswork. If the level of Vit D is low it reduces our ability to actually absorb and make use of calcium for bone growth, even if blood-calcium levels are ok. At the same time, there's no point it taking too much Vit D or calcium as a supplement. If Vit D is also useful for reducing the risk of recurrence, it's another good argument for checking blood VitD levels.


I'm getting OT here but given the importance of testosterone related to all of the above, [warning: personal opinion] anyone who doesn't have their testosterone return to a decent level should be seriously considering if they can have TRT or, failing that, take every step possible to avoid the side effects of not having testosterone as part of their physiology. 


Jules


 

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Posted 23 Nov 2025 at 23:31

Good post and interesting profile. If it wasn't bedtime I'd read more.


I've just gone from 20mg statins to 40.  The pharmacist said going from 20 to 40 reduces Cholesterol about 10%.  After 3 months my Chol. is now 3.0 but I haven't told her yet. She said the hospital target is 2.5 for my condition. Two arteries with severe calcification.  Arterial calc is caused by plaque hardening with time not particularly by excess calcium.


Reversing calcification is claimed possible by Dr Esselstyn who insists on a very stringent plant based diet.  It's quite an amazing story if it's of relevance/interest to you/anyone.   


Here's a link to one of his videos.


https://youtu.be/ZC3wRx4vV7g?si=wKwzTt0isXIYhfry


Bedtime now. Regards Peter


 

Edited by member 24 Nov 2025 at 09:55  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 24 Nov 2025 at 04:08

Hi Peter,


Interesting that you linked to a lecture on Nitric Oxide. I have been following a series of podcasts in which Steven Bartlett (known as one of the dragons in Dragon's Den), interviews experts in various fields and one of these is with an ardent advocate for sufficient Nitric Oxide. His views seem largely consistent with those of Dr Esselstyn. A link to this particular long podcast is here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zECoaEZRRFU


This was one of the podcasts in Steven Bartlett's series 'Diary of a CEO'

Edited by member 24 Nov 2025 at 04:10  | Reason: to highlight link

Barry
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Posted 24 Nov 2025 at 09:55

Thanks Barry, that's new to me.  The work of Tim Spector at Zoe focuses on the gut microbiome for health, Dr Esselstyn focuses on plant food to stimulate nitric acid to improve heart arteries. Now this which is more broad brushed supporting Nitric Oxide.  


It was my dentist who gave me the link to Esselstyn last week. After this video I can't wait to ask him if I really should be cleaning my teeth especially with fluoride, then taping my mouth and asking why he isn't using a CT scanner instead of Xrays. Although he's the sort who's probably already seen this.


There are common links to all this scientifically.  Also that they're all selling books and other products. Taking bits from each is the path I prefer as it's a bit extreme. Cheers, Peter

User
Posted 08 Dec 2025 at 23:10

Husband had first appointment with oncology two weeks ago. They took a blood sample and tested for vit D. He was a bit low so he collected his Vit D today from Boots. 

User
Posted 09 Dec 2025 at 06:04

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
He was a bit low so he collected his Vit D today from Boots.


Vit D deficiency is more likely in winter when the days are short and exposure to sunlight is low.


Jules

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Posted 09 Dec 2025 at 12:48

There are some commentators online who take very large amounts of Vit D , there was a guy on the usually sensible PCRI youtube who was taking such amounts that elsewhere they would be considered excessive and potentially adverse to health.
He didn't specially recommend that to others but the implication is there.


having started ADT a month or so ago I have my DexaScan in a couple of weeks. The CNS just recommended taking the usually adult supplement dose 12.5 ug - but they didn't check our Vit D as a matter of course - I have no idea if I am normally low and need more. Seems they don't deem it necessary?

Edited by member 09 Dec 2025 at 12:51  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 09 Dec 2025 at 21:02
Interesting insight into Vitamin D dose reqd:
https://youtu.be/AtoxkK7MeKc?si=2nJjDXuggiAcwZsu
User
Posted 10 Dec 2025 at 16:28

These guys know their stuff and can actually sniff out poor science - here's their take on Vit D and what the actual studies tell us and don't tell us:


 


https://sciencefictionspod.substack.com/p/episode-36-vitamin-d

Edited by member 10 Dec 2025 at 16:30  | Reason: Not specified

 
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